[QUOTE=Judas;50252908]what do you think hillary clinton would do in office that would negatively impact your life in any way[/QUOTE]
In the words of Alexander Hamilton, modified to fit the current situation: "[Mrs. Clinton] will probably make stipulations, but [she] will laugh in [her] sleeve as [she] makes them and will break them the first moment it may serve [her] purpose." At least, that's what I've personally heard from basically every Democrat in my area.
trump is fucking insane. i cant believe this is actually happening and he is close to being the leader of a nuclear superpower. i'm speechless.
Trump will probably just revert back to his left self when in the White House.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50252614]Sanders supporters: I'm pretty facetious with politics here, but I really hope you'll vote Clinton, write in Bernie, or Jill Stein this election.[/QUOTE]
I voted Sanders in my state's primary. I absolutely detest Clinton, but at the same time, everything I've seen about Trump tells me that he's a fucking lunatic and doesn't belong anywhere near the White House. I'll give Clinton my vote, but only with gritted teeth.
I didn't necessarily agree with Sanders on all of his shit, but he was by far the only candidate I had any trust in. Integrity is what I want out of a candidate, and right now, not a damn one of the people who have a shot fit the bill.
Fuck this election, and fuck what this country's turned into.
[QUOTE=milktree;50252958]trump is fucking insane. i cant believe this is actually happening and he is close to being the leader of a superpower. i'm speechless.[/QUOTE]
It's gonna be great, I can't wait to die for my God Emperor Donald J. Trump when the wars start.
WITNESS ME.
[sp]But seriously its not gonna be that bad, he is a smart man, he is putting on a show for everyone. He is doing what he does on purpose.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Cinnamonbun;50253001]It's gonna be great, I can't wait to die for my God Emperor Donald J. Trump when the wars start.
WITNESS ME.
[sp]But seriously its not gonna be that bad, he is a smart man, he is putting on a show for everyone. He is doing what he does on purpose.[/sp][/QUOTE]
just like he made as many horrible business decisions as he had, to put up a show.
[QUOTE=Cinnamonbun;50253001]It's gonna be great, I can't wait to die for my God Emperor Donald J. Trump when the wars start.
WITNESS ME.
[sp]But seriously its not gonna be that bad, he is a smart man, he is putting on a show for everyone. He is doing what he does on purpose.[/sp][/QUOTE]
I'm kinda starting to give less of a shit about these elections to the point where I'm kinda willing to gamble on Trump, because Hiliary offers not alot to me other than complacency, and Sander's fuel has pretty much run out, he's on fumes really, just delaying the inevitable concede that'll cause a huge internet upset.
At the very least it'll be the crown jewel of this hilarious meme-fest of an American Election.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;50253034]just like he made as many horrible business decisions as he had, to put up a show.[/QUOTE]
"Horrible usiness decisions", people say, as the companies that Trump was in charge of that did go bankrupt went bankrupt in a pretty controlled manner and not "oh shit we've fucked up" bankrupt, not that people who spout this misinformed nonsense would know there's a difference though.
[editline]4th May 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Judas;50252908]what do you think hillary clinton would do in office that would negatively impact your life in any way[/QUOTE]
The problem with clinton is that everything she says is absolutely worthless, have you seen the amount of shit she's neck deep into? The amount of dirt on her? This woman is a democrat in name only, nothing she says is to be trusted.
With Trump I know what he will most likely do. He will use the post 9/11 surveillance apparatus in place to his advantage to bully political opponents into submission. I say this because he did this in the past with private investigators in order to black mail people out of projects so he can buy up real estate.
If he does this with congress, and the supreme court, this may create a reaction. Other politicians might work towards dismantling said apparatus to save their butts.
Trump's habit of investigating people to get what he wants might be turned on Clinton. If the FBI does not indict her, no doubt Trump might launch his own investigation into her in order to win.
I consider anyone abusing bankruptcy to be douchebags.
I consider anyone even claiming they're going to build a wall as a response to an immigration problem that doesn't exist douchebags.
I consider someone lying hard about being vocal about being against the iraq war (claimed it would destabilize middleeast -- he never said this, the only reason he was against it was because of bonds)
I consider someone knowing nothing about the Iranian Nuclear Deal a dumbass
I consider someone having a godawful and plain wrong campaign ad disgusting(mexicans rampantly jumping the fence? lol.)
[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/fact-checking-donald-trump-questionable-statistics-tweet-article-1.2443285]This should speak for itself.[/url]
I don't trust someone who outright lies about one of his presidency opponents so significantly that several people believe it(Claimed bernie sanders said he'd have the tax rate be 90% -- bernie only said he didn't think it would be too high, context sensitive)
He claims that there's up to 40 million illegal immigrants in the US when significant number of researchers strongly disagree.
His "totally not horrible business decisions" included things like threatening to use eminent domain to kick a widow out of a house, he scammed thousands of students at Trump University, and not to mention most of his "successes" are inherited -- not created.
But I'm sorry if you've fallen into the "bad things about trump must be misinformation" trap.
[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;50252635]too bad he's a citizen lol[/QUOTE]
That's the joke.
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[QUOTE=Map in a box;50253218]I consider anyone abusing bankruptcy to be douchebags.
I consider anyone even claiming they're going to build a wall as a response to an immigration problem that doesn't exist douchebags.
I consider someone lying hard about being vocal about being against the iraq war (claimed it would destabilize middleeast -- he never said this, the only reason he was against it was because of bonds)
I consider someone knowing nothing about the Iranian Nuclear Deal a dumbass
I consider someone having a godawful and plain wrong campaign ad disgusting(mexicans rampantly jumping the fence? lol.)
[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/fact-checking-donald-trump-questionable-statistics-tweet-article-1.2443285]This should speak for itself.[/url]
I don't trust someone who outright lies about one of his presidency opponents so significantly that several people believe it(Claimed bernie sanders said he'd have the tax rate be 90% -- bernie only said he didn't think it would be too high, context sensitive)
He claims that there's up to 40 million illegal immigrants in the US when significant number of researchers strongly disagree.
His "totally not horrible business decisions" included things like threatening to use eminent domain to kick a widow out of a house, he scammed thousands of students at Trump University, and not to mention most of his "successes" are inherited -- not created.
But I'm sorry if you've fallen into the "bad things about trump must be misinformation" trap.[/QUOTE]
I can also make a list like that about Hillary, perhaps with less being 'misinformed' and more just being spineless and corrupt.
Don't get me started on Hillary, I hate her as well, I think spineless and corrupt sum up both of them.. in the nicest fashion, anyway.
I'm not a big fan of Hilary, but I'll take her over Trump any day.
I'll be honest, while Hillary disgusts me more than David Cameron's poor pig, I'd prefer her over trump.
Donald Trump will soon be assassinated by the zodiac killer. You just wait and see.
[QUOTE=Pitchfork;50252927]In the words of Alexander Hamilton, modified to fit the current situation: "[Mrs. Clinton] will probably make stipulations, but [she] will laugh in [her] sleeve as [she] makes them and will break them the first moment it may serve [her] purpose." At least, that's what I've personally heard from basically every Democrat in my area.[/QUOTE]
All her political career has been in ambition for presidency, right? So what else would she possibly have to gain if she's already president?
Why, as President, would she deceive people for her personal benefit? Once you reach the top of the political pyramid there's nowhere else to climb, and therefore no one to backstab. She's been laughing in her sleeve to serve her purpose of becoming president, at which point she will no longer need to laugh in her sleeve because such a goal has been met. By then, her goals are party and public-based, not self-based.
[QUOTE=milktree;50252958]trump is fucking insane. i cant believe this is actually happening and he is close to being the leader of a nuclear superpower. i'm speechless.[/QUOTE]
You do remember we've had back to back shit presidents for years right? I find it hard to believe he could be worse.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;50253035]I'm kinda starting to give less of a shit about these elections to the point where I'm kinda willing to gamble on Trump, because Hiliary offers not alot to me other than complacency, and Sander's fuel has pretty much run out, he's on fumes really, just delaying the inevitable concede that'll cause a huge internet upset.
At the very least it'll be the crown jewel of this hilarious meme-fest of an American Election.[/QUOTE]
You're giving less of a shit to the point of maybe voting Trump because memes? I mean what the fuck is wrong with you guys? I think Clinton is a piece of shit, but at least she's a piece of shit that may introduce some of Bernie's policies or at least not fuck up a lot of stuff.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;50253949]You're giving less of a shit to the point of maybe voting Trump because memes? I mean what the fuck is wrong with you guys? I think Clinton is a piece of shit, but at least she's a piece of shit that may introduce some of Bernie's policies or at least not fuck up a lot of stuff.[/QUOTE]
Democracy man, most people don't even vote using policies as a guideline, they just go with the flow or vote what their parents voted.
They're entitled to
[QUOTE=BigJoeyLemons;50253643]All her political career has been in ambition for presidency, right? So what else would she possibly have to gain if she's already president?[/QUOTE]
Money, friends with money, and a comfortable, well-connected, politically relevant life even after the 4-8 years in the spotlight are over.
[QUOTE=Duskin;50253972]Democracy man, most people don't even vote using policies as a guideline, they just go with the flow or vote what their parents voted.
They're entitled to[/QUOTE]
I'm also entitled to saying it's retarded, so yeah there's that. I didn't tell him he couldn't do it, just that it's really dumb.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;50253949]I think Clinton is a piece of shit, but at least she's a piece of shit that may introduce some of Bernie's policies or at least not fuck up a lot of stuff.[/QUOTE]
Trump may too, who the fuck knows. Clinton has said the things (some of) the left wants to hear because she's running as a democrat and Trump has said the things (some of) the right wants to hear because he's running as a republican. They both have flip flopped around so much it's impossible to say where their actual conventions lie in many important respects.
The only difference between them is Hillary has a political history that can be referenced, and to a lot of people, it isn't pretty.
The devil you know vs. the devil you don't.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;50252532]I think that would be insulting to crossdressers.
All that really needs to be said about Trump is the truth - he's driven several businesses into the ground through his incompetence, he's run pyramid schemes and other scams, he's lied consistently and shamelessly, he panders to the worst people in the country, and his plans are demonstrably bad, if not impossible.[/QUOTE]
When you have like 500 separate business ventures, you're bound to have a few failures. Something like 80% of all entrepreneurial endeavors fail. So, if Trump has failed (had a business venture gone bankrupt) 4/500 times, that's a rate of about 1% failure. To me this seems like he's massively successful at business.
And you're just talking out your ass about him running pyramid schemes and scams, complete falsehood.
[QUOTE=DaMastez;50254088]Trump may too, who the fuck knows. Clinton has said the things (some of) the left wants to hear because she's running as a democrat and Trump has said the things (some of) the right wants to hear because he's running as a republican. They both have flip flopped around so much it's impossible to say where their actual conventions lie in many important respects.
The only difference between them is Hillary has a political history that can be referenced, and to a lot of people, it isn't pretty.
The devil you know vs. the devil you don't.[/QUOTE]
More like "The devil you know" and the "the devil we also kind of know, but let's assume he doesn't actually carry out any of the asinine ideas he has put forward". Trump has said some really, really dumb and terrible stuff. Clinton may have voted for dumb things, and flip flopped on a lot of stuff, but she hasn't basically called illegal immigrants rapists or called for closing the country for Muslims... or build an enormous wall.
To think someone like Donald Trump now has an actual, real shot at becoming the next President of our country.
Totally boggles my mind. Two years ago, this dude was trying to convince people our President falsified his birth.
[QUOTE=rilez;50254216]To think someone like Donald Trump now has an actual, real shot at becoming the next President of our country.
Totally boggles my mind. Two years ago, this dude was trying to convince people our President falsified his birth.[/QUOTE]
They said the same stuff about Reagan. For instance, Back to the Future made a joke about it:
[video=youtube;UC_AzVvgEF8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC_AzVvgEF8[/video]
Reagan was also governor of California before though
[QUOTE=matt_caster;50254229]They said the same stuff about Reagan.
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'Kay, but that still doesn't go over the point of the comment; that a potential world leader believes wholeheartedly in half-baked and wholly idiotic conspiracy theories. As stated before, Trump has literally said that Barack Obama wasn't born in the US, and parroted and espoused that belief for fuckin' years. Would this really be the kind of man who you'd want to the lead the nation? Who believes in shit like [URL="https://youtu.be/AffuKjGV6BA"]vaccines causing autism[/URL] or birtherism?
C'mon.
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