Space Exploration to Mars officially forbidden, according to The General Authority of Islamic Affair - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Miskav;44001027]And literally nobody cares. Religion will not hold back humanity again, I'd give my life just to keep religion in the background, as insignificant as it can possibly be. [B]we don't need it,[/B] we need to come together as a species and up funding for science and our space programs.[/QUOTE] No, [I]you[/I] don't need it. Plenty of people work in the technological and scientific fields and have religious beliefs as a part of their life. [QUOTE=angelangel;44001926]amount of blatant islamophobia relative to the amount of zings[/QUOTE] While I cringed a bit reading some of the first posts, I'd hardly call any of them islamophobic.

[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;44000492]Islam should prohibit people from blowing themselves up then.[/QUOTE] Actually, that's true. Islam forbid people to kill themselves in the name of god becuase Allah will not allow murderers into heaven. Also, where in the Quran forbid man to travel into space?

[QUOTE=BCell;44002932]Actually, that's true. Islam forbid people to kill themselves in the name of god becuase Allah will not allow murderers into heaven. Also, where in the Quran forbid man to travel into space?[/QUOTE] Some Islamic authority said it constitutes an unreasonable risk, on the level of suicide.

I am Islam and I really don't like this.

[QUOTE=wooletang;44000807]Is it really suicide if your name lives forever?[/QUOTE] Sacrifice =/= suicide in my book

TBH there isn't much difference between this and an actual mars expedition, both will have to do a fair bit of waiting on the surface of mars as well as construction, and the apollo astronauts didn't step into their rocket without knowing that there was a chance they were headed off on a suicide mission, they were hardened guys but death loomed over the missions there, the same is true with all manned explorations but we must push on regardless, if more people are to go to space, then more people are going to die from space's dangers its just a fact a mars mission being either mars direct or traditional means, will have to have the astronauts on the trip for at least 3 years before it is all over with, thats 3x as long as the longest manned mission today, and thousands of times further out than the furthest man has ever gone [editline]22nd February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=01271;44001910][img]http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/~dwiggins/pict43.GIF[/img] Pictured and not to scale: points at which they could draw a line to the mecca. Space-Islamist children would be the best at spacial geometry and trigonometry from an early age.[/QUOTE] [t]http://1000awesomethings.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/spinning-office-chair2.jpg[/t] and this is what they use for when they are in orbit

[QUOTE=Covalency;44001868]well they can be stuck on Earth and blowing each other up because they didn't believe in something while we travel across space, live on other planets, and have peace throughout countries and cities fuck that would be nice a man can dream[/QUOTE] I vote we leave people like you on Earth. There is no room for this heretic peace nonsense, we have xenos to purge.

[QUOTE=elitehakor;44001457]tell me where the quran says that rape victims should be stoned or suicide bombing is ok[/QUOTE] Dying for Islam and to protect Islam is the highest honor a Muslim can get so yeah I'm pretty Suicide Bombing is okay as long as you do it for the right reasons [editline]22nd February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Griffster26;44001626]I don't want people saying "facepunch isn't a hive mind" when the first few posts of this thread are people grating Islam.[/QUOTE] and why is it wrong to grate Islam? Islam is an ideology,belief and lifestyle that people follow. Followers are always flawed and cherry-pick what they like,we can't judge Muslims but we can objectively judge Islam

Living is suicide. Their point is invalid.

Fuck them.

going to the grand canyon is now forbidden officially because you can fall of the edge

religion should have zero say in scientific ventures

No worries, we'll just go for Uranus instead. To probe it.

Why the fuck is everyone losing their minds

[QUOTE=Number-41;44001432]God forbid FP sees Islam as a heterogeneous group of about 1,6 billion people. Surely they must all think exactly the same. Also OP, Fox news as a source, like, the media outlet that has a guy claiming we can't explain tides? This thread was doomed from the beginning...[/QUOTE] "FP this, FP that," God forbid FP sees FP as a heterogeneous group of poeple. Surely they must all think exactly the same.

so no mars for me ? :c

[QUOTE=efecanefe;44008546]so no mars for me ? :c[/QUOTE] "Oh boy, a one-way trip to a distant planet with a hostile atmosphere and literally no food sources except for what we brought in packets. That sounds like the perfect vacation." Not to mention an increase in the amount of ionising radiation you'll be exposed to, likely drastic swings in temperature, lack of viable water sources(?) etc. A [I]lot[/I] could go wrong, and setting up a colony is going to be a very taxing job. You'd likely be able to resupply and recieve more crew members, but you also have to take into account possible failures with the craft which could result in direct or indirect deaths (losing food supply, losing lives). Oh, and you can't come back. At all. If anything is wrong or otherwise, feel free to correct me, but that's my personal opinion. [sp]A trip to Mars, let alone outer space, is pretty exciting from my POV to be honest. I can see the appeal.[/sp]

[QUOTE=GameAdict;44009329]"Oh boy, a one-way trip to a distant planet with a hostile atmosphere and literally no food sources except for what we brought in packets. That sounds like the perfect vacation." Not to mention an increase in the amount of ionising radiation you'll be exposed to, likely drastic swings in temperature, lack of viable water sources(?) etc. A [I]lot[/I] could go wrong, and setting up a colony is going to be a very taxing job. You'd likely be able to resupply and recieve more crew members, but you also have to take into account possible failures with the craft which could result in direct or indirect deaths (losing food supply, losing lives). Oh, and you can't come back. At all. If anything is wrong or otherwise, feel free to correct me, but that's my personal opinion. [sp]A trip to Mars, let alone outer space, is pretty exciting from my POV to be honest. I can see the appeal.[/sp][/QUOTE] There will inevitably be some accidents, and some deaths. That's the nature of colonization. When England began to colonize the New World, it lost several colonies, colonies like Roanoke. Whatever happens, we have to keep trying until we succeed.

[QUOTE=Sableye;44003877] [t]http://1000awesomethings.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/spinning-office-chair2.jpg[/t] and this is what they use for when they are in orbit[/QUOTE] Actually, some Islamic body did settle this problem for Muslims aboard the ISS. In short from what I can remember from what I read if you start out pointing at Mecca then its okay.

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;44009374]There will inevitably be some accidents, and some deaths. That's the nature of colonization. When England began to colonize the New World, it lost several colonies, colonies like Roanoke. Whatever happens, we have to keep trying until we succeed.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but there's a difference between early false starts and a half-cocked disaster in the making like Mars One.

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;44009374]There will inevitably be some accidents, and some deaths. That's the nature of colonization. When England began to colonize the New World, it lost several colonies, colonies like Roanoke. Whatever happens, we have to keep trying until we succeed.[/QUOTE] if you want to die accomplishing something, go join SpaceX instead. chances are that Mars One won't make it past the first two years - just surviving six months is a tall order, and they have no idea how they're going to achieve even that. and keep in mind, everyone who lands on Mars will die there - if the colony isn't operational by 2023, all those people sent out will be completely stranded and forced to die pointless and likely quite agonizing deaths. you must be able to at least see how some can think of it as a waste of life, surely

[QUOTE=Cone;44010645]if you want to die accomplishing something, go join SpaceX instead. chances are that Mars One won't make it past the first two years - just surviving six months is a tall order, and they have no idea how they're going to achieve even that. and keep in mind, everyone who lands on Mars will die there - if the colony isn't operational by 2023, all those people sent out will be completely stranded and forced to die pointless and likely quite agonizing deaths. you must be able to at least see how some can think of it as a waste of life, surely[/QUOTE] ...yes the details are [I]extremely[/I] fuzzy, but the astronauts aren't the first to arrive, they're the last to arrive. Whether the colony will be setup by then, theoretically, has nothing to do with the crew. If it isn't, then the crew doesn't launch.

[QUOTE=Mbbird;44010712]...yes the details are [I]extremely[/I] fuzzy, but the astronauts aren't the first to arrive, they're the last to arrive. Whether the colony will be setup by then, theoretically, has nothing to do with the crew. If it isn't, then the crew doesn't launch.[/QUOTE] yeah i'm just rechecking their website now and the plan isn't as dumb as i thought it was, but it's still really much too foolhardy and dangerous to really be bothering with, and still very likely to result in a great big pointless loss of life. so i reiterate: if you want your death to mean something, wait for a mission that will actually work. it's no use being the first person to die on behalf of a Martian reality TV project.

[QUOTE=Cone;44010800]yeah i'm just rechecking their website now and the plan isn't as dumb as i thought it was, but it's still really much too foolhardy and dangerous to really be bothering with, and still very likely to result in a great big pointless loss of life. so i reiterate: if you want your death to mean something, wait for a mission that will actually work. it's no use being the first person to die on behalf of a Martian reality TV project.[/QUOTE] It's a shit program currently because they're [I]not[/I] a space agency. They're just a name for someone to rally behind. As I said: [QUOTE=Mbbird;44000933]No it's just a nearly credential-less, overly ambitious space program. As far as I can tell they're really just hoping a person, group, corporation, or government possessing the capability to go to Mars 9 times in a row will pick up their project.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mbbird;44010812]It's a shit program currently because they're [I]not[/I] a space agency. They're just a name for someone to rally behind. As I said:[/QUOTE] what i mean to say is is that a mission designed by a competent agency will probably take on a different form than the one currently shown, it doesn't matter if it's still called Mars One. which is why i say to wait for a mission with better foresight and credentials behind it before volunteering to very possibly die.