US Forest Service - Illegal Immigrants Now Reffered To As "Displaced Foreign Travelers"
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the only people deserving of rights are white christian males
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white christian american males*
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
Put robotic .50 calibers on the border every thousand feet or so. Illegal immigration problem solved.
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[QUOTE=A.C.I.D;23534751]P sure they have human rights.[/QUOTE]
They do not have the rights of citizens of the United States, though. We can do whatever the hell we want to them (in terms of throwing them out of the country), and nobody could do shit about it.
Was talking to the guy advocating mass executions. I hope you didn't mean to support that.
[QUOTE=the_KMM;23535199]I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
Put robotic .50 calibers on the border every thousand feet or so. Illegal immigration problem solved.
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They do not have the rights of citizens of the United States, though. We can do whatever the hell we want to them (in terms of throwing them out of the country), and nobody could do shit about it.[/QUOTE]
why do you keep posting even though you've convinced everyone you're a raging lunatic?
[QUOTE=A.C.I.D;23535226]Was talking to the guy advocating mass executions. I hope you didn't mean to support that.[/QUOTE]
Oh, of course not. I just advocate kicking out any in the country currently, and keeping any more from coming in.
[QUOTE=the_KMM;23535274]Oh, of course not. I just advocate kicking out any in the country currently, and keeping any more from coming in.[/QUOTE]
it's the 1984 dream come true
[QUOTE=thisispain;23535287]it's the 1984 dream come true[/QUOTE]
What does keeping illegals out have [I]anything[/I] to do with 1984?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;23528709]You can change the name all you want, doesn't change what they are.[/QUOTE]
Useful components of our economy?
[QUOTE=GunFox;23538164]Useful components of our economy?[/QUOTE]
I must disagree. Illegal immigrants pay no taxes, so the country gets nothing back in return. They are unproductive workers. They're a source of crime and financial drain.
[QUOTE=Thomo;23538224]Hello Hitler[/QUOTE]
says the user with an anime SS girl avatar
[QUOTE=the_KMM;23538180]I must disagree. Illegal immigrants pay no taxes, so the country gets nothing back in return. They are unproductive workers. They're a source of crime and financial drain.[/QUOTE]
Bwahahaha
Okay so my girlfriend lives with me. Is ABD on her PhD and has been taught by some of the most well known immigration experts in the country. It drives her nuts because she teaches here in TN and her classes are filled with people who spew the same bigoted ignorant bullshit you just did.
Here is how it ACTUALLY works:
Illegal immigrants DO pay taxes. The companies they work for almost universally automatically withhold taxes (most companies do, regardless of employees). Because otherwise they get audited and then the jig is up. They pay sales tax. They pay property tax. They pay vehicle tax. But they are also illegal immigrants, so they don't actually have the ability to make use of most of the programs from the government. So while they pay in, they don't/can't take out. They are contributing more to the system than the average legal citizen by several orders of magnitude.
Illegal immigrants largely DON'T commit crime. Why come across the border to commit crime? You get caught and you are seriously fucked. Statistically there are few groups out there that commit less crime than illegal immigrants.
Illegal immigrants take the shit jobs that you wouldn't be caught dead doing, and do them for less than is even remotely a living wage. They drive down the cost of food production in the United States low enough that it is actually reasonable. If they were to be removed from the system, the ripple effect would cause prices to skyrocket across the board and our entire economy would destabilize and crumble.
So basically what I'm saying is that illegal immigrants are actually more productive and beneficial to society than you are.
Gunfox, how do companies withhold taxes for them if the employees have no social security numbers?
[QUOTE=Sharq;23528756]People.[/QUOTE]
Lol I love the 10 disagrees on this.
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[QUOTE=the_KMM;23538014]What does keeping illegals out have [I]anything[/I] to do with 1984?[/QUOTE]
Constant surveillance, police state, human rights are exclusive, etc.
TBH I don't like Orwell and I really don't like 1984 but that's just fascism.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;23538631]Gunfox, how do companies withhold taxes for them if the employees have no social security numbers?[/QUOTE]
They have SS numbers on file. From what I understand multiple people use the same number. It is either false or belongs to a deceased individual.
The company is usually aware of it being fake. But the Federal government doesn't complain or have the time/manpower to investigate.
I can't believe how many of you nerds actually get trolled by arrows.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;23550328]I can't believe how many of you nerds actually get trolled by arrows.[/QUOTE]
eh shut up
[QUOTE=Arrows;23528848]Try them, kill them and make an example, they won't do it again.[/QUOTE]
I think the same thing for weed. ONE DAY MY FRIEND, ONE DAY.
[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;23555620]I think the same thing for weed. ONE DAY MY FRIEND, ONE DAY.[/QUOTE]
Yes, let's kill people for smoking a plant. You're an idiot.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23555859]Yes, let's kill people for smoking a plant. You're an idiot.[/QUOTE]
He must've been high when he thought of that.
[QUOTE=Sharq;23555947]He must've been high when he thought of that.[/QUOTE]
He's a 14 year old wannabe mercenary who wants to shoot anyone that he dislikes.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23555974]He's a 14 year old wannabe mercenary who wants to shoot anyone that he dislikes.[/QUOTE]
Oh. :saddowns:
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but his YouTube page seemed so professional!
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;23545170]Constant surveillance, police state, human rights are exclusive, etc.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry that you have a complex which forces you into thinking that major institutions are out to get you, but it simply is not true.
[QUOTE=GunFox;23538344]Bwahahaha
Okay so my girlfriend lives with me. Is ABD on her PhD and has been taught by some of the most well known immigration experts in the country. It drives her nuts because she teaches here in TN and her classes are filled with people who spew the same bigoted ignorant bullshit you just did.
Here is how it ACTUALLY works:
Illegal immigrants DO pay taxes. The companies they work for almost universally automatically withhold taxes (most companies do, regardless of employees). Because otherwise they get audited and then the jig is up. They pay sales tax. They pay property tax. They pay vehicle tax. But they are also illegal immigrants, so they don't actually have the ability to make use of most of the programs from the government. So while they pay in, they don't/can't take out. They are contributing more to the system than the average legal citizen by several orders of magnitude.
Illegal immigrants largely DON'T commit crime. Why come across the border to commit crime? You get caught and you are seriously fucked. Statistically there are few groups out there that commit less crime than illegal immigrants.
Illegal immigrants take the shit jobs that you wouldn't be caught dead doing, and do them for less than is even remotely a living wage. They drive down the cost of food production in the United States low enough that it is actually reasonable. If they were to be removed from the system, the ripple effect would cause prices to skyrocket across the board and our entire economy would destabilize and crumble.
So basically what I'm saying is that illegal immigrants are actually more productive and beneficial to society than you are.[/QUOTE]
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office [URL="http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8711/12-6-Immigration.pdf"]says otherwise[/URL]. While they do indeed pay taxes and contribute without receiving any of the benefits, the costs of healthcare, law enforcement, and education leave the actual impact of illegal immigrants as being detrimental. While it isn't much of an impact, it still costs money. Now if we can make it easier for immigrants to legally become citizens, grant amnesty, and adopt universal healthcare, it would be better.
Immigrants in general do shit jobs so it doesn't really matter if they are illegal or not. And your argument about them not committing crimes because they are fucked if they do is bullshit. EVERYONE is fucked if they commit crimes. If illegals are deported, they can just cross the border again.
[QUOTE=Arrows;23528848]Try them, kill them and make an example, they won't do it again.[/QUOTE]
Let's condone murder!
[QUOTE=RBM11;23557107]The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office [URL="http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8711/12-6-Immigration.pdf"]says otherwise[/URL]. While they do indeed pay taxes and contribute without receiving any of the benefits, the costs of healthcare, law enforcement, and education leave the actual impact of illegal immigrants as being detrimental. While it isn't much of an impact, it still costs money. Now if we can make it easier for immigrants to legally become citizens, grant amnesty, and adopt universal healthcare, it would be better.
Immigrants in general do shit jobs so it doesn't really matter if they are illegal or not. And your argument about them not committing crimes because they are fucked if they do is bullshit. EVERYONE is fucked if they commit crimes. If illegals are deported, they can just cross the border again.[/QUOTE]
yeah because crossing the border is a fucking cakewalk
Like amnesty will work. Last time it was tried, we didn't figure we'd be getting even more people breaking the law by crossing the borders. We thought we would be getting less.
[QUOTE=Lazor;23557836]yeah because crossing the border is a fucking cakewalk[/QUOTE]
It's much easier than immigrating legally, and way to ignore my other points. I was saying that if they were deported for crimes other than being here legally instead of serving a normal jail sentence, it's easier to cross the border. Of course AFAIK they do serve prison sentences in addition to being deported.
[QUOTE=Arrows;23528848]Try them, kill them and make an example, they won't do it again.[/QUOTE]
And send a bill for the bullet to the family, right?
[QUOTE=RBM11;23557107]The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office [URL="http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8711/12-6-Immigration.pdf"]says otherwise[/URL]. While they do indeed pay taxes and contribute without receiving any of the benefits, the costs of healthcare, law enforcement, and education leave the actual impact of illegal immigrants as being detrimental. While it isn't much of an impact, it still costs money. Now if we can make it easier for immigrants to legally become citizens, grant amnesty, and adopt universal healthcare, it would be better.
Immigrants in general do shit jobs so it doesn't really matter if they are illegal or not. And your argument about them not committing crimes because they are fucked if they do is bullshit. EVERYONE is fucked if they commit crimes. If illegals are deported, they can just cross the border again.[/QUOTE]
Healthcare? The shit we give them is the absolute most basic help imaginable. It shouldn't matter who they are or their status in the country. Health care should be free for everyone. Plus again, immigrants are extremely unlikely to use healthcare.
Education? You do realize that if they are being educated by the US public school system that they are probably US citizens right? It doesn't matter the status of your parents. If you were born inside the US, you are a US citizen.
Law enforcement? Again statistically the only downside to illegals is that they don't report crime for fear of being deported. Committing it is extremely rare.
[QUOTE=lulzbocks;23556742]I'm sorry that you have a complex which forces you into thinking that major institutions are out to get you, but it simply is not true.[/QUOTE]
Yeah because mass exiles, rounding up hundreds of thousands of people and deporting them, then placing machine guns on the border totally isn't overly authoritarian and insensitve. :downs:
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I mean FUCK did you even read that post?
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