[QUOTE=Forumaster;39877784]You forget that this is the area of the world that thinks women aren't even human.[/QUOTE]
In Delhi? Shit, dude, I can tell you haven't ever been to India. Forummaster, I usually like you, but that was racist. As. Fuck.
I'm real disappointed in you.
Stay classy facepunch.
You will always find ways to disgust me. You bunch of rabble roused idiots.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39882425]It's terrible that I had to coax you into begrudgingly admitting that people should get trials[/QUOTE]
I never said I don't agree with trials. A trial is a great thing. I just don't think rehabilitation works all the time.
[QUOTE=Forumaster;39877965]They base their government on their religion, which states what I did above.
They're practically in the middle ages as far as this is concerned, so it'll probably be several hundred years before they figure it out.[/QUOTE]
wait what
india operates under the british model
their government isn't based on their religion
[QUOTE=Forumaster;39877965]They base their government on their religion, which states what I did above.
They're practically in the middle ages as far as this is concerned, so it'll probably be several hundred years before they figure it out.[/QUOTE]
Dude, India is not Fucking Afghanistan. India is not the Motherfucking Vatican, or Saudi Fucking Arabia.
India is the world's biggest secular democratic state, and the last time a Hindu government tried to create a theocracy for the Hindu majority, that Hindu majority kicked them the fuck out.
[QUOTE=faze;39876653]One less sick fuck in the world.[/QUOTE]
This isn't good. What this means is that he and other rapists like him won't be put through a trial, the public eye won't be on the court system's handling of the case, and no real progress will be achieved as far as how the courts and government treat women's rights and rape cases in India. If you just kill them, there won't be any landmark or case law to set an example of rapists in India, and it won't solve the root cause of the issue.
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[QUOTE=archangel125;39882672]Dude, India is not Fucking Afghanistan. India is not the Motherfucking Vatican, or Saudi Fucking Arabia.
India is the world's most populous secular democracy.[/QUOTE]
In title; they've got an incredibly corrupt government and the northern states of india see women as livestock. India isn't some wartorn hellhole, but they've got their backwards regions.
[QUOTE=prooboo;39882682]This isn't good. What this means is that he and other rapists like him won't be put through a trial, the public eye won't be on the court system's handling of the case, and no real progress will be achieved as far as how the courts and government treat women's rights and rape cases in India. If you just kill them, there won't be any landmark or case law to set an example of rapists in India, and it won't solve the root cause of the issue.
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In title; they've got an incredibly corrupt government and the northern states of india see women as livestock. India isn't some wartorn hellhole, but they've got their backwards regions.[/QUOTE]
That you're hearing about these rapes happening now, and the massive public backlash, is a sign of the changing times.
The government is cracking down hard on corruption now they've got the eye of the world on them. Because the country is home to over one billion people, educating the remote villages and the people who come from those villages to the big cities will take time, as will eliminating organized crime, but I assure you that the denizens of places like Delhi and Bombay are as progressive as any western city.
[QUOTE=archangel125;39882702]That you're hearing about these rapes happening now, and the massive public backlash, is a sign of the changing times.[/QUOTE]
But a trial would have been more effective than vigilante justice. While his killing means that someone out there finds rape unacceptable, a trial that throws the book at him would make the state responsible to uphold the law after that in a similar fashion as it did in that case. You can't throw the book at one rapist once and then let all the other rapists go; they have case-law in india.
[QUOTE=prooboo;39882741]But a trial would have been more effective than vigilante justice. While his killing means that someone out there finds rape unacceptable, a trial that throws the book at him would make the state responsible to uphold the law after that in a similar fashion as it did in that case. You can't throw the book at one rapist once and then let all the other rapists go; they have case-law in india.[/QUOTE]
I don't disagree with that. Unfortunately, the police force there is one of those that need to be reformed. Sex offenders tend to meet sticky ends.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;39882231]Be careful guys, the Rehab guys might get here soon.[/QUOTE]
Be careful guys, the people who don't like killing other people might get here soon.
had it coming, I hope he enjoys hell
In all likelihood, the man was killed by either the police or the inmates, which isn't uncommon at all for Indian law enforcement - "encounters", a scenario where a transport van is stopped on the street, the criminal (usually a repeat offender/historysheeter) is told to get off and start walking and then the cop shoots him from the back. Then evidence is planted that it was done in self defense, case closed and according to these rogue cops, one less scumbag is off the streets.
Bear in mind that this guy, Ram Singh, lost one of his arms in an accident. He used to drive with the use of a rod tied to the stump where his arm used to be (which was taken away from him when he was thrown in jail) How easy do you think it would've been for him to make a noose (out of his shirt and threads from the mat in his cell), tie it and hang himself without any support whatsoever? If anything, this is a failure by the Tihar Jail security personnel, considering the man was already on suicide watch (which means increased security).
All of those accused in this crime are dead men walking and while it is in the best interests of justice to see that they are given a fair trial, the burden of housing/rehabilitating these people on the Indian taxpayer might cause certain rash measures to be taken.
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;39883946]had it coming, I hope he enjoys hell[/QUOTE]
ITT: People happy a suspect was murdered in jail when he wasn't proven to have done the crime.
I hate how people are saying "he deserved it, nothing of value was lost.". Sure, he was SUSPECTED of a gang rape, but that doesn't mean we should be partying in the streets about his death. Anyone's life is valuable.
[QUOTE=Forumaster;39877784]You forget that this is the area of the world that thinks women aren't even human and rapists most of the time will get off with nothing.[/QUOTE]
are you talking about the west
because accused rapists most of the time will get off with nothing in the west
[QUOTE=thisispain;39885962]are you talking about the west
because accused rapists most of the time will get off with nothing in the west[/QUOTE]
no no no hes talking about the land of silk and honey where everyone wears silly hats and coax snakes out of pots with their flutes and carry things on their heads like weirdos
you can trust him on this hes seen indiana jones two like twenty times he knows what hes talking about
[QUOTE=NoDachi;39882532]Stay classy facepunch.
You will always find ways to disgust me. You bunch of rabble roused idiots.[/QUOTE]
B- But he was accused of a bad thing, of course he deserved to die!!!
He was not just some random suspect that they picked up on the street. He was the freaking bus driver that drove around with these men until they were done, then opened the door so they could throw her body out onto the street.
Anybodies death is a tragedy, and he was not officially found guilty. But this was not a good guy at all.
lmao you guys are a bunch of cavemen you know that?
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;39886701]lmao you guys are a bunch of cavemen you know that?[/QUOTE]
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