• Talltale Games Ruins Jurassic Park Jeep, Doesn't give a shit.
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The seat getting wrecked is a bit strange though I won't argue that. Seats don't just come apart like that (or at least they shouldn't).
That's it? I thought it would look like a trannysaurus rex had its way with it. Fuck sensasionalist headlines
Here is Telltale reply on the matter [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mceic/about_that_jurassic_park_jeep/[/url] [editline]15th November 2011[/editline] [release] Kevin Bruner from Telltale here. Today there has been quite the buzz about how Telltale reportedly damaged the Jurassic Park Jeep lent to us at PAX. Telltale has in fact been in regular contact with the owner of the Jeep and the last we heard, he was in the process of completing an insurance claim. The Jeep was damaged on the way to Seattle, before anyone from Telltale every saw or touched it. Telltale used the shipping company that the owner asked us to use. When it arrived we just saw an awesome, well loved, but also well used, Jeep. We had no way of knowing that anything had happened to the Jeep in transport, as it appeared in reasonable condition. Anyone who came by the show and took a picture with the Jeep can attest that the Jeep looked pretty damn cool, and not obviously damaged. The fact that the Jeep was damaged before we had access to it, and some dispute over the amount of damage caused in transport vs. existing damage has complicated the claim, which has made the process take a long time. But, today I wake up to find that there is a campaign the day before our game launch to discredit Telltale. Since Telltale didn't actually do anything negligent, we've been using the insurance we purchased to cover this, but it has been time consuming. Apparently too time consuming. To expedite this, I'll be writing a personal check to cover what we understand the damages to be - this way we won't need to hash this out publicly any longer. Some people seem to think that Telltale has grown into some giant corporation that doesn't care about people anymore. Nothing could be further from the truth. We started the company to make games that are about writing, acting and atmosphere and not about blowing shit up. Since we've gone out on this limb, we've had some successes (and failures) and earned the chance to work with great licenses like Monkey Island, Back to the Future, Jurassic Park and Walking Dead. All of our games are super faithful to the licenses, and lovingly crafted to make the best fan experience possible. Fans seem to enjoy them, which makes us super proud. We hate that most licensed games are a driver or a shooter with a license slapped on it, which we've never been about. So I'll fast track getting the Jeep fixed by paying for it personally, even though I don't like the circumstances this is going down in. Perhaps some of you who are hating on Telltale might be inclined to check out Jurassic Park tomorrow and give us a chance to change your mind. is enough [/release]
[QUOTE=Rocko's;33278500]Here is Telltale reply on the matter ][/QUOTE] Still a terrible move on Telltale's part. They're to blame for this entire mishap by not reimbursing the guy for two months. They could have pocketed the insurance money afterwards.
[QUOTE=Miskav;33278589]Still a terrible move on Telltale's part. They're to blame for this entire mishap by not reimbursing the guy for two months. They could have pocketed the insurance money afterwards.[/QUOTE] He is sending the guy a check to cover what he said was damaged, I think that's enough to end it. Not a whole lot, but still. Such a cool thing got banged up.
again, telltale is not at fault. stop disagreeing me you idiots and read rockos post
Apparently the CEO paid for the damages personally with his own money to speed up the insurance process. Telltale has re-earned my respect.
[QUOTE=Dr.C;33278461]trannysaurus rex[/QUOTE] Thanks for the [I]"pleasant"[/I] mental image. [sp]OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK[/sp]
Dinosaur did it Fixed
[QUOTE=Rocko's;33278500]Here is Telltale reply on the matter [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mceic/about_that_jurassic_park_jeep/[/url] [/QUOTE] Awesome. Now that i see that the problem is fixed, i just bought the game on steam since i love jurassic park.
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They need to get that jeep fixed pronto, what would happen if a ton of dinosaurs escaped from imprisonment today and the jeep wasn't ready?
[QUOTE=markg06;33275558]Excellent way to charge more money.[/QUOTE] I don't think you know how cars work. ALSO!!!!! Good news, TellTale is taking care of it (hopefully). People say it was a publicity stunt, others, well, others just don't give a shit. Most likely publicity stunt cause game comes out tomorrow. [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mceic/about_that_jurassic_park_jeep/[/url]
[QUOTE=Rocko's;33278500]Here is Telltale reply on the matter [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mceic/about_that_jurassic_park_jeep/[/url] [editline]15th November 2011[/editline] [release] Kevin Bruner from Telltale here. Today there has been quite the buzz about how Telltale reportedly damaged the Jurassic Park Jeep lent to us at PAX. Telltale has in fact been in regular contact with the owner of the Jeep and the last we heard, he was in the process of completing an insurance claim. The Jeep was damaged on the way to Seattle, before anyone from Telltale every saw or touched it. Telltale used the shipping company that the owner asked us to use. When it arrived we just saw an awesome, well loved, but also well used, Jeep. We had no way of knowing that anything had happened to the Jeep in transport, as it appeared in reasonable condition. Anyone who came by the show and took a picture with the Jeep can attest that the Jeep looked pretty damn cool, and not obviously damaged. The fact that the Jeep was damaged before we had access to it, and some dispute over the amount of damage caused in transport vs. existing damage has complicated the claim, which has made the process take a long time. But, today I wake up to find that there is a campaign the day before our game launch to discredit Telltale. Since Telltale didn't actually do anything negligent, we've been using the insurance we purchased to cover this, but it has been time consuming. Apparently too time consuming. To expedite this, I'll be writing a personal check to cover what we understand the damages to be - this way we won't need to hash this out publicly any longer. Some people seem to think that Telltale has grown into some giant corporation that doesn't care about people anymore. Nothing could be further from the truth. We started the company to make games that are about writing, acting and atmosphere and not about blowing shit up. Since we've gone out on this limb, we've had some successes (and failures) and earned the chance to work with great licenses like Monkey Island, Back to the Future, Jurassic Park and Walking Dead. All of our games are super faithful to the licenses, and lovingly crafted to make the best fan experience possible. Fans seem to enjoy them, which makes us super proud. We hate that most licensed games are a driver or a shooter with a license slapped on it, which we've never been about. So I'll fast track getting the Jeep fixed by paying for it personally, even though I don't like the circumstances this is going down in. Perhaps some of you who are hating on Telltale might be inclined to check out Jurassic Park tomorrow and give us a chance to change your mind. is enough [/release][/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/77bbL.jpg[/IMG]
Jurassic Jeep's Response: [URL]http://www.jurassicjeep.com/[/URL] [QUOTE]UPDATE: Telltale’s CEO, Kevin Bruner has posted a response on Reddit, where he promises to pay Boomerjinks for the repairs out of his own pocket. He cites this as a misunderstanding and a third party insurance issue. Hopefully Boomerjinks will receive an amount that is able to cover the repairs to the Jeep, and to cover any other failed promises made by Telltale. While it seems like this is resolved, we would like to see Boomerjinks with reparation in hand before we dismiss this. We would like to remind everyone that Telltale did not follow through with a lot of what was agreed upon with Boomerjinks. The transport was not covered, the insurance was signed off, Telltale employees took the Jeep for a Joyride, Boomerjinks missed work and had to pay for parts of the trip out of his own pocket. These are things that do not require working it out with insurance. These are things that were neglected by Telltale. While Kevin Bruner explains that he has been in constant contact with Boomerjinks, his prior posts on Reddit indicate that he had never heard from Boomerjinks regarding this issue. Boomerjinks explains that Telltale told him to go after the transport company himself, and that’s all they ever said. (The transport company had no liability after Telltale signed for the Jeep). They never indicated that there was a third party insurance company working on the claim. We believe there never was one, and that is why Kevin Bruner is now said to be paying out of his own pocket.[/QUOTE] The video they use to claim they joy rided the jeep [video=youtube;TuaeFfKoLqs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuaeFfKoLqs[/video]
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[QUOTE=Wii60;33282362]Jurassic Jeep's Response: [URL]http://www.jurassicjeep.com/[/URL] The video they use to claim they joy rided the jeep [video=youtube;TuaeFfKoLqs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuaeFfKoLqs[/video][/QUOTE] Cause driving the jeep to the booth so it could be setup is totally joy riding. God damn these people who made these claims are idiots
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;33282480]Cause driving the jeep to the booth so it could be setup is totally joy riding. God damn these people who made these claims are idiots[/QUOTE]At around 1:18 they're outside. Although, I didn't go to PAX and therefore don't know if TTG was, say, on an upper floor and going outside was the only way to get there.
[QUOTE=markg06;33275558]Excellent way to charge more money.[/QUOTE] It's because if you just paint over the scratch it's impossible to get the color to match the rest of the paint. So if you repaint, you have to redo the whole thing so the colors are consistent.
[QUOTE=Wii60;33282362]Jurassic Jeep's Response:[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]We would like to remind everyone that Telltale did not follow through with a lot of what was agreed upon with Boomerjinks. [/QUOTE] I'd like to actually see that "agreement" before I pretend to have some moral outrage over this. It's easy to say you've been contractually wronged- with none of it in writing, he just looks like a tool.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;33277597]Everyone, read this and shut the bloody hell up. Did Telltale make a mistake? Yes. Should the Jeep owner be compensated? Yes. Does the Jeep being damaged concern you directly? No. Does it affect the quality of the game at all? No. Was every single person at Telltale, from the CEO to the guy who restocks the vending machine, conspiring to screw this guy over? No. My guess is it's all the legal department and absolutely nobody involved with actual game design. Is it possible that this whole thing is a giant misunderstanding? Yes. Telltale will go bankrupt if you think that not supporting them is a good idea, innocent men and women who work for a living will lose their house and way of food. All over a stupid fucking car.[/QUOTE] Hundreds of people in a factory in China will lose their jobs and a percentage of them will die as a result of it if you stop buying Nike shoes You can't reason like that in everyday life.
what can I say we have a legal system for these sorts of disputes stop being cheapos and hire a lawyer or you could whinge about it and get reddit up in faux-moral outrage and arms to make telltale games do a backflip whatever [editline]15th November 2011[/editline] [quote]Boomerjinks is now having to file and insurance claim with his own personal insurance company [B]who estimated the damages at around $2000[/B][/quote] well I guess that's why he didn't go to a lawyer crime of the century folks
The guys at Telltale are really great people, I honestly doubt that they'd do this sort of thing. I think this guy is just being a douche.
Telltale is pretty cool.They did great in the BTTF game.I would buy their games if I had the money to buy a bunch of games that I'm interested in.
Telltale is a mom and pop game company, very similar to Double-Fine. They actually give a shit, the jeep owners are just being babies.
Not that bad... Sure its kind of bad. I mean, my family has had cars for years and every car has never really went bad in any way. They drove this jeep for how long exactly? 1 day? My parents drive the same cars every day for years and they only have small fender benders if someone drives like a dick, and even then they don't end up with a ripped seat. How the hell do you even do that?
I could re-do all those decals for a couple hundred dollars and weather proof them permanently for maybe a hundred more, that is not even close to a thousand dollar job unless you're hiring some greedy prick. Also this Kevin dude is a douchebag, he's smearing TellTale by making a private matter public then egging on everyone to support him even after they sent out multiple letters to the public in less than a day.
[QUOTE=DarkWolf2;33277691]It indirectly is, and by signing the receipt they're directly responsible to fix the mess they've created. He was promised, in good faith, that his jeep got special transport (not been done), that they paid for travel expenses and get PAX tickets for him (Neither were given). Then they proceed to ignore his plea for reperation for months.[/QUOTE] If anything, the only way Telltale is at fault is for hiring that transit company, would them have not signing for it prevented the damage? No, it just means they lost the ability to get the compensation from them. Sure, dumb of them, but they had good faith of the transport company to do the job adequately, which they didn't. Sure, bit of a dick move that they didn't pay for his travel expenses, but, if that wasn't in a contract of somesorts, they had no legal requirement to do so.
Another Point of View, Popped up by a Ex-Event Coordinator Of Telltale games (who managed the Pax Event). She Was harrassed by the internet community because the guy pissed off because of his jeep named her in the comments. [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mcy7l/today_i_received_nonstop_phone_calls_and_emails/[/url] [QUOTE]Let me start out by saying that I've been a member of reddit for over three years. During that time I've tried to be a positive member of the community. I organized the San Francisco Bay Area meetup group and have held other meetups in Boston, Kansas City and Seattle. Whenever I'm free on weekend nights I try to sit in r/suicidewatch and r/depression and help posters. Last year I hosted an "Orphan Thanksgiving" and invited all local redditors who needed a place to have dinner into my home. I've met all of my close friends through this community, including my boyfriend. I even adopted my dog through r/bayarea. I've seen some of the previous reddit outrages and generally wonder in, tell people to calm down and then downvote the thread. Obviously I'm not always perfect, I sometimes argue with people over silly things and later regret it. But for the most part I love this site and try to make everyones experience as positive as mine has been. But today I received a call where all I could hear was "Kevin" and "Jeep" before the caller hung up. Then my phone rang again, and again and again. This started in the airport when I was trying to get on a flight after a SF redditors trip to Las Vegas. I had no idea what was going on. Some of the calls were threatening- one caller even asked me if I wanted to know what it was like to be raped. I know that most internet bullies are harmless offline, but the panic created by receiving multiple threatening calls and emails is uncontrollable. As soon as I could check my email (while in line to go through security) I found multiple emails from friends linking me to the offending thread. Up until a few weeks ago I worked for Telltale Games, I was the event coordinator and the person responsible for getting the Jeep in the previously linked thread to Seattle. Boomer decided to name me directly as the person responsible in a comment that was later deleted by the admins. Because I host so many meetups all of my information was readily available by Googling my name and many redditors decided to do just that. I've always wondered how many people see low ranked comments. Although I still don't have a good answer I know that this comment only had about 20 upvotes before it was deleted and was halfway down the page when sorted by top. From it I received 83 phone calls (according to Google voice), 41 Facebook messages, and 19 emails. I was lucky enough to put most of my online accounts on the most secure privacy setting while this was happening so I don't know if it could have been worse. I was also able to contact some admins directly so the comment was deleted quickly. If you, for someone reason, feel like one sided stories with zero proof are a reason to harass someone let me explain exactly how this affected me. I was in Las Vegas for my birthday. When I turned on my phone I was trying to return my parents call to me for my birthday, I never got to talk to them. I know this sounds very /firstworldproblems but both of my parents are sick and older. I don't know how many more times I'll get birthday calls from them. That was also my first real vacation, I'm 28 now. Like I said above, I'm online more than I'm off and I know how brave people can get behind a phone or computer. But the fear and panic that sets in is horrifying. I knew that something was going on but I didn't know exactly what or how bad it was. I've never once gotten sick from fear but some of the initial calls were so bad that I became physically sick. I started to worry about everything from my job to my home to my parents. Many hours of crying followed. Even ten hours later I am afraid to turn on my phone. Beyond that it makes me think again about my involvement in any community. My information was only posted because I tried to do something positive on this site. Further more, Boomer was lying about almost everything. I feel like an awful person for posting these but maybe it will make people stop and think twice when it comes to participating in these mobs. Here are screenshots from a few emails that disprove his major points. Here and here. ( I removed the images before posting, I can't do that, but they have been sent to boomer via a reply to his threatening emails to me even after he knew I left Telltale) The dates in the top right are the from the first time he started a fake smear campaign and I had to compile emails so our lawyer could help him file claims. Even though at that point he was obviously scamming us we still tried to help him. I won't post anything else but I have hundreds of emails concerning this. Even before the event he kept demanding that we change the terms. It got so bad that I refused to talk to him and asked him to email me so there was a record. As soon as I met him at PAX I knew something was off, he started claiming damage before he got there and saw the jeep. Even now his massive exaggerations are showing through. What he calls a "joyride " was the thirty feet we had to take the car to be inspected and the gas removed. The only reason I wasn't driving it was because my license was expired by a few days and we wanted everything to be 100% legit. I know there is more than one PAX enforcer here that can confirm the distance. I won't lie, that thread crushed me in multiple ways. The only reason I took a job at Telltale was because I loved their games and they had recently acquired the rights to two of my favorite movies- Jurassic Park and BttF. I was paid just above the area minimum wage, worked around 50-60 hours a week and had a three to six hour daily commute. I was just happy to be involved in those games in any possible way. But above all I was very proud of the PAX booth and it stings to hear these things as he keeps posting them online over and over again, making me out to be an even bigger bad guy every time. TLDR: Please don't get involved in these mobs. Activism comes in many forms but harassing a single person isn't one of them. [/QUOTE]
People are making judgement with only one side of the story. One of the (now former for unrelated reasons) employees from Telltale came forward and is saying pretty much all of the story is bullshit. [quote]Further more, Boomer was lying about almost everything. I feel like an awful person for posting these but maybe it will make people stop and think twice when it comes to participating in these mobs. The dates in the top right are the from the first time he started a fake smear campaign and I had to compile emails so our lawyer could help him file claims. Even though at that point he was obviously scamming us we still tried to help him. I won't post anything else but I have hundreds of emails concerning this. Even before the event he kept demanding that we change the terms. It got so bad that I refused to talk to him and asked him to email me so there was a record. As soon as I met him at PAX I knew something was off, he started claiming damage before he got there and saw the jeep. Even now his massive exaggerations are showing through. What he calls a "joyride" was the thirty feet we had to take the car to be inspected and the gas removed. The only reason I wasn't driving it was because my license was expired by a few days and we wanted everything to be 100% legit. I know there is more than one PAX enforcer here that can confirm the distance.[/quote] Don't jump to conclusions until there's more than one side to a story. Full link [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mcy7l/today_i_received_nonstop_phone_calls_and_emails/]here.[/url] [editline]15th November 2011[/editline] Really? Slow by less than a minute? Come on.
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