• Two teens beat an 88 year old WWII vet to death in a parking lot
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[QUOTE=SaltyWaters;41946910]You are correct in saying that this is the result of racism though. Its not the racism of white people however, but of blacks. The black culture revolves around biting the hand that feeds it, hard and often. It makes no serious attempts to change itself, and very serious attempts to destroy anyone who tries. It is a monster that is fed by welfare and the attitude that 'Its not my fault. Its racism that did this to me!'[/QUOTE] Oh my God this is so uninformed and racist that I will forever regard your posts with disgust [QUOTE=SaltyWaters;41946910]You are perpetuating the lie that black people cannot be blamed for their actions, because its actually everybody else at fault. This is not true, truly racist and responsible for many deaths every year.[/QUOTE] Yeah I compiled a handy list of times BDA has said black people are not responsible for crimes they commit: - - - - - Oh wait, he was just explaining the very real history that created a culture of crime among poverty ridden minority communities
I love how this doesn't make it to national news but the trayvon case does. If this guy was black and the thugs were white this shit would be all over the news and there would be riots in the streets lmao. fuck this country and it's dumb ass double standards
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;41946972]Oh my God this is so uninformed and racist that I will forever regard your posts with disgust Yeah I compiled a handy list of times BDA has said black people are not responsible for crimes they commit: - - - - - Oh wait, he was just explaining the very real history that created a culture of crime among poverty ridden minority communities[/QUOTE] BDA is fucking awesome. Let me get that right out of the way. He's one of the coolest FP members, and I sincerely mean that. I'm very strongly opposed to what he's pushing, and that's the extent of it.
[QUOTE=SaltyWaters;41947120]BDA is fucking awesome. Let me get that right out of the way. He's one of the coolest FP members, and I sincerely mean that. I'm very strongly opposed to what he's pushing, and that's the extent of it.[/QUOTE] Um okay thank you for sharing your opinion on BDA? I'll be sure to add that to the list of interesting Facepunch facts. As long as were sharing stupid unrelated tid-bits I'm not really a fan of the way Sobotnik dresses and I think Dinojesus was a huge moron But he isn't "pushing" anything. BDA isn't trying to absolve these people of their crimes, he's explaining the history that contributed to what is happening today, in regards to minority crime, dropout rates, and unofficially segregated ghettos. The actions of our grandparents (Generally speaking obviously, for all I know your grandparents were right next to MLK on his march) helped create a culture of crime and poverty that is a near endless circle. Not to mention your disgustingly racist assumptions; that black culture is "biting the hand that feeds it", which suggests that white people are supporting black people and without us they would die, something you criticized BDA for in your off-the-walls stupid post, and also that "It is a monster that is fed by welfare and the attitude that 'Its not my fault. Its racism that did this to me!'". This is a thickheaded and racist way of interpreting modern black (and other minority) culture that is ridiculously far from accurate.
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;41946972]Oh my God this is so uninformed and racist that I will forever regard your posts with disgust Yeah I compiled a handy list of times BDA has said black people are not responsible for crimes they commit: - - - - - Oh wait, he was just explaining the very real history that created a culture of crime among poverty ridden minority communities[/QUOTE] But what's the point of telling us what caused it? Why not tell us what is CURRENTLY causing it, if you feel the need to share the cause at all, why not share the relevant one? It's not our fault anymore, poverty is the entire reason.
[QUOTE=Medicman;41947090]I love how this doesn't make it to national news but the trayvon case does. If this guy was black and the thugs were white this shit would be all over the news and there would be riots in the streets lmao. fuck this country and it's dumb ass double standards[/QUOTE] Race baiting white people doesn't work. They're not organized like the African American community to unite against any perceived oppression or inequality.
[QUOTE=imperialrock;41936127]I hope they catch the two shits who did this, and let them rot behind bars. Fucking punks.[/QUOTE] what punks?
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41947467]Race baiting white people doesn't work. They're not organized like the African American community to unite against any perceived oppression or inequality.[/QUOTE] Nah we just realize were white and right, and then forget about it. We'll give in every now and then, I mean the white man did give the black man rights. We could've said no, but we change our ways for the better. Not our fault they destroy their own neighborhoods out of anger. Maybe they should protest peacefully, don't think they've tried that yet.
Ignorance and stupidity is an all time high... Nobody these days know what the hell respects mean, we have a fucking society decay going on where everyone is acting literately retarded like doing shit like this.
[QUOTE=SaltyWaters;41946910]None of which really means anything when a gang of oppressed and misunderstood black youth's decide to kill white people for fun. 'White Flight'. Its one of the most ironically racist things I've ever heard. You are basically saying that without white people, blacks cannot survive. You are correct in saying that this is the result of racism though. Its not the racism of white people however, but of blacks. The black culture revolves around biting the hand that feeds it, hard and often. It makes no serious attempts to change itself, and very serious attempts to destroy anyone who tries. It is a monster that is fed by welfare and the attitude that 'Its not my fault. Its racism that did this to me!' You are perpetuating the lie that black people cannot be blamed for their actions, because its actually everybody else at fault. This is not true, truly racist and responsible for many deaths every year.[/QUOTE] Is this a joke? I'm going to set aside how outrageously ignorant and blatantly racist your little comment about blacks being incapable and lazy is and give you a brief history lesson, because you clearly haven't got a clue what you're on about. White flight absolutely devastated the communities affected by it, and it has nothing to do with "blacks not being to survive without white people." How you reached the conclusion that [I]that[/I] is what I was implying is completely and totally beyond me. Here's the skinny on white flight, and why it is responsible for the "black culture" you see today, and the reason why this culture is self-perpetuating: During the 50's and 60's, racial tensions were peaking in light of the civil rights movement. America was begrudgingly accepting that they had to start treating black people like human beings, but they still weren't too damn happy about it. Racism doesn't die overnight, it takes generations. As the civil rights movement began taking off, the colored community was inspired and uplifted. Wage disparities began shrinking, and more and more black families were beginning to become financially independent, and even quite successful. They began moving to neighborhoods just outside the cities. They were urban places, but very nice. They had good schools, plenty of local businesses, and they were well-policed. They were the kind of neighborhoods you go to raise a family. However, these neighborhoods were predominantly white and middle class, and many of the people living in them weren't at all happy to have blacks moving into their nice little neighborhoods. Every time a colored family moved into a house on the block, the homes around it dropped in property value because people didn't feel comfortable living next door to black folk. As more and more colored families moved in, the already established white families began moving out. The property values were tanking, they wanted to cut their losses and move to "better" (whiter) towns. Eventually, even those who weren't offended by the presence of the new black families began leaving. Everybody who could leave did, because the conditions in these neighborhoods were rapidly deteriorating in the wake of these mass-migrations. You've heard the phrase, "there goes the neighborhood," yeah? This is what it's referring to. The problem with the white families moving out is that they had been long-established there. They owned the businesses, they provided the jobs, they had the money. When they left, they everything with them. What they left behind was complete economic ruin. Property values were rock-bottom, nearly every local business was closed, and there were no jobs. The minority families who had moved there for a better life found themselves with homes too worthless to sell, and with no way to earn more money, because the jobs and businesses were just gone. They fell into extreme poverty. With extreme poverty comes extreme desperation. This isn't restricted to "black culture," it's a human condition. In areas like those created by white flight, access to basic goods and services becomes a luxury. Medical care, education, security: these are all deeply compromised. And desperation breeds crime. Gangs become your new security, because the cops don't come anymore. Drugs become your new source of income, because there are no jobs left. Violence becomes the way you protect what's yours, because everyone has so little, and everyone wants more. And the worst part of it is, once that point has been reached, it's very difficult to undue. The problems are self-perpetuating. Violence, drugs, and gangs breed more violence, drugs, and gangs. People leave school to join gangs because they see no hope outside of gangs. People start selling drugs because what few new businesses do come to those ghettos are targeted and extorted and vandalized, and so there are never enough jobs for the people who need them. Violence breeds violence, because your cousin getting gunned down in a driveby shooting by a rival gang demands retaliation. And I'm not just postulating here, Salty. This is all but fact. White Flight was an observed phenomenon, occurring all over the United States, and its effects were apparent, destabilizing, and demonstrable. We are still reeling from it today. This isn't just a theory from some dude on a forum that you can try to wiggle and twist to suit your own needs. The black community can't just [I]fix[/I] that. Nobody can. God knows we've been trying for long enough, but things have degraded to such a bad point that we can't simply put a bandaid over it any more. It'd be hard enough without resistance, but the gangs fight back. They've got drug money and street cred and territory, and they don't give a shit about whether you're there for the little guy. Because that's the environment we thrust them into. That's what it does to people. I am not saying, nor have I ever said, that black criminals aren't responsible for their own actions; I am saying that there is no damn wonder they turned out to be criminals when they were raised in an environment essentially handcrafted for criminality by the very racism which now looks at black crime and yells, "see! See what I mean! Subhuman criminals, too lazy to work, always sabotaging themselves and whining about racism!"
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;41946324]can Korn play during the proceedings[/QUOTE] yes
[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;41948712]yes[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41947460]But what's the point of telling us what caused it? Why not tell us what is CURRENTLY causing it, if you feel the need to share the cause at all, why not share the relevant one? It's not our fault anymore, poverty is the entire reason.[/QUOTE] In order to understand the problem, you need to understand its causes. There is a huge amount of ignorance on this subject, which is contributing to the same kind of racism and segregation that provoked white flight in the first place and created these rifts in the first place, and racism continues to be a major factor that actively inhibits its recovery. Education is the first and most important tool to fight ignorance. When we better understand the truth of the problems we're facing, you become more able to consider solutions for it.
Public Firing squad.
This was already going to be a big deal for everybody upset about the Trayvon case, so it will get that audience up in arms from the beginning. Also this man DOES deserve a special level of respect, maybe not on a legal level, but definitely from a moral standing because he served his country, and contributed his life for freedom, so that the teens could enjoy it as they do (although not for long) today. He also fought for the fundamental rights to earn a fair trial, which these teens will receive. It is a very, very disgusting act by the teens, but please don't be the person who says "why does he deserve special treatment because he's a veteran"....
[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;41946367]i can say with 100% certainty and honesty that lynchings and racism were the last thing i thought of when he said "hang those assholes" yeah, you're the fucked up one[/QUOTE] yeah okay of course you can say that what does that mean? you're still the one talking about hanging black people. oh but i don't mean it with any racist connotations i swear! i'm just ignoring all of them! i'm just talking about the regular hanging people thing. you're fucked either way bro. and i'm the fucked up one lol!
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;41939996]The barely contained racism in this thread is just [I]bananas[/I]. You guys claim to be civilized and modern, but under whose borked definitions? The Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan's? Reel it in, you fuckin' goobers. <racism> <more racism> <also racism> I'd be embarrassed for you if I weren't so perturbed by the complete abandonment of sensibilities. [editline]/[/editline] Missed this little gem: <subtle racism>[/QUOTE] I'm almost insulted you didn't think I was being serious about flying these two perpetrators, and didn't quote me.
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;41938622]if you guys are valuing this vets life over any other life then there's a huge issue here![/QUOTE] You want to know why I value the old man's life over a bunch of murdering punks? Because they fucking murdered someone in cold blood. They're fucking animals and they should be put down.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;41949868]yeah okay of course you can say that what does that mean? you're still the one talking about hanging black people. oh but i don't mean it with any racist connotations i swear! i'm just ignoring all of them! i'm just talking about the regular hanging people thing. you're fucked either way bro. and i'm the fucked up one lol![/QUOTE] What if he just read the title "Two teens beat an 88 year old WWII vet to death in a parking lot" and thought that an act this disgusting should be dealt by hanging the teens? (As the title clearly does not mention races)
[QUOTE=Judas;41945159]facepunchers please just stop beating around the bush and confess that black people just scare you[/QUOTE] but facepunch isn't a hivemind we're not all pasty white nerds that are secretly in the KKK
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