Man turns tables on shotgun-wielding attacker [Video included] - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Hunterdnrc;40478793]Holy shit, that was ballsy.[/QUOTE] Aye, especially if the attacker actually had shells. (can't hell if he had ammo in it) How much do shotgun shells actually cost in America, anyway?

[QUOTE=ironman17;40480174]Aye, especially if the attacker actually had shells. (can't hell if he had ammo in it) How much do shotgun shells actually cost in America, anyway?[/QUOTE] Dirt cheap just like most ammo. Although I've heard of some states forcing tyrannical prices on ammunition, especially shipped ammo.

[QUOTE=DChapsfield;40480066]and you just equated rape and robbery they can't be compared, i stand by my response, let's not open that can of worms[/QUOTE] Okay, so what other crimes do you think a victim brings on themselves? I'm trying to understand how you have this notion that being mugged at gunpoint is something you should shrug off and only report to the police if you really feel like it. It's a serious crime, it's worth trying to prevent, and it's not something a victim should be told to learn from and avoid repeating. Why is victim-blaming acceptable here?

Balls of steel.

They haven't recognized them yet. I would have kept the shotgun.....for purposes undisclosed....

Another thing I found pretty funny [quote]According to police, the victim was approached moments later by two black males in a black four door sedan. The victim told police that the driver of the car said, "give me my gun back and I’ll give you your phone that you dropped." An NOPD spokesman says the intended victim declined to return the shotgun back to the robber, but instead used the weapon to strike and knock out the rear windshied (sic) of the vehicle. Police say the two suspects fled on Frenchmen to St. Claude and then to parts unknown.[/quote] Seems like this guy just doesn't give a shit and does't take shit from nobody.

[QUOTE=catbarf;40480211]Okay, so what other crimes do you think a victim brings on themselves? I'm trying to understand how you have this notion that being mugged at gunpoint is something you should shrug off and only report to the police if you really feel like it. It's a serious crime, it's worth trying to prevent, and it's not something a victim should be told to learn from and avoid repeating. Why is victim-blaming acceptable here?[/QUOTE] i'm not victim blaming. secondly, you are right, you should report it to the police regardless. i wrote "if it matters" in a bit of cynicism regarding new orleans, though, because that kind of street robbery isn't easy to follow up on. but of course they should learn from it to avoid repeating. that is the prevention you recommend. i'm not blaming the victim for being robbed because no, he did not "bring it upon himself." "bringing it upon himself" would be walking in shouting pointed obscenities and daring somebody to rob him, for example. he was robbed. now, he should choose to avoid the place he was at in the time he was there because it could happen again. i'm talking preventative analysis, not retroactive criticism.

[QUOTE=Valdor;40480303]Another thing I found pretty funny Seems like this guy just doesn't give a shit and does't take shit from nobody.[/QUOTE] falling down 2 ARG

[QUOTE=Scot;40479144]It was probably fake/not loaded anyway.[/QUOTE] "SHIT HE STOLE MY FAKE GUN, FLEE BEFORE HE SHOOTS!"

that man had a lot of balls, but the robber was balls retarded for getting that close, seriously. Would that not be rule number 1 of mugging people with a gun, don't get so close that they can just snatch the gun off of you? [editline]30th April 2013[/editline] also does he yell "fuck you" at the end [editline]30th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=DChapsfield;40479511]definitely not, give him your stuff quietly and let him go. the robber isn't looking to kill random strangers, just take your stuff, so oblige the man on the higher end of the power scale and go on to live another day. report to the police, learn from the situation, and avoid being part of whatever landed you alone at dawn in a city with a lot of crime.[/QUOTE] this is a bad mindset

What a fucking badass

[QUOTE=Lethaxx;40482393]"SHIT HE STOLE MY FAKE GUN, FLEE BEFORE HE SHOOTS!"[/QUOTE] if someone is ballsy enough to try and take your gun without knowing if its fake, id be pretty scared too...

[QUOTE=Eeshton;40482683]if someone is ballsy enough to try and take your gun without knowing if its fake, id be pretty scared too...[/QUOTE] I would shit myself on the spot if I had a shotgun pointed at my face.

[QUOTE=Riller;40479056]Still gives a splitsecond of it being pointed at face. If the robber was twitchy, it could have gone real ugly.[/QUOTE] Generally at ranges that close, an untrained person can move faster than a trained person can react. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UonZAUdwhEM[/media] Yeah I know it's CrossFit, but watch it regardless. [editline]30th April 2013[/editline] I still wouldn't recommend doing what the person in the video did unless you were damn sure.

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;40482994]Generally at ranges that close, an untrained person can move faster than a trained person can react.[/QUOTE] I meant twitchy as in, flinching his body because "OH FUCK MY GUN GOT GRABBED!". That could easily make him squeeze trigger on accident.

[QUOTE=Riller;40483039]I meant twitchy as in, flinching his body because "OH FUCK MY GUN GOT GRABBED!". That could easily make him squeeze trigger on accident.[/QUOTE] He would still have to have his brain receive the message "OH FUCK MY GUN GOT GRABBED," and then have the signals from the brain reach down to his arm to actually pull the trigger. You have the advantage of not having to wait for reaction time, and would probably move faster than his reaction.

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;40483088]He would still have to have his brain receive the message "OH FUCK MY GUN GOT GRABBED," and then have the signals from the brain reach down to his arm to actually pull the trigger. You have the advantage of not having to wait for reaction time, and would probably move faster than his reaction.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure the accidental flinch reaction would be fast enough to do the killing. A concious trigger pull, probably not.

[QUOTE=Riller;40483102]Pretty sure the accidental flinch reaction would be fast enough to do the killing. A concious trigger pull, probably not.[/QUOTE] While it is true that the unconscious reaction would be faster, I have nothing to prove or disprove what you said.

[QUOTE=Riller;40483102]Pretty sure the accidental flinch reaction would be fast enough to do the killing. A concious trigger pull, probably not.[/QUOTE]He could also have a muscle cramp and squeeze his finger out of stress, splattering dude's brain all over.

[QUOTE=Riller;40483102]Pretty sure the accidental flinch reaction would be fast enough to do the killing. A concious trigger pull, probably not.[/QUOTE] Unless he's using a competition gun, the trigger pull of at least a couple of pounds is more than someone would usually exert by a flinch reaction. The best way to disarm someone who is aiming at you like this is to simultaneously bring your arm up to push the weapon away [I]and[/I] to move your head to the side to get it out of the line of fire. At point blank range, even if they react by pulling the trigger the instant you start to move, your head is out of the way by the time they fire. This is why standard procedure for police and the military is to never come within arm's reach when keeping a firearm trained on someone. It's still a really ballsy move, but I'd be less concerned about being shot in the process and more concerned about being stunned and deafened by a shotgun going off right next to your ear if he does shoot, [I]then[/I] getting shot when the guy recovers.

The "his finger could have twitched" people need to rewatch the video and analyze just how fast it all happened. The "twitch" could not have happened that fast.

[QUOTE=Riller;40479056]Still gives a splitsecond of it being pointed at face. If the robber was twitchy, it could have gone real ugly.[/QUOTE] Not really, if you simultaneously move your head and arm at the same time, your head would be out of the way by the time your hand hits the gun. Mind you the hot ejecta from the gunshot could still hurt like hell if he did pull the trigger [editline]1st May 2013[/editline] still takes balls of steel though

[QUOTE=itak365;40479025] "If you're going to point a gun at someone, you better be ready to pull the trigger..."[/QUOTE] My parents taught me this when I was young. Subsequently, I now treat all weapons like this.

1- The twitch COULD have happened, as with anything else. And taking a blast from a shotgun point face is not something easy to stand...like catbarf says. It didn't happen this time because the robber DID expect him to move. What he didn't expect was that specific move. Robbers only rob when they are 100% things might go out as they think. Wasn't this case. 2-Take a look at the shotgun when everything starts. The robber actually cocks the shotgun, and no shell is ejected. I dont know assaulted POV (He doesnt show any sign when the cocking sound is heard), but if he did actually knew that the gun was loaded, the action was 100% justified. Otherwise, he should have just handed in everything. There's no need from a robber POV to cock the gun before assaulting someone. Taking by surprise someone, and showing him/her a 12g muzzle is more than enough. 3-Thankfully, as said before, the robber didn't fight back. Should him have fought back, that guy, who awesomely disarmed the robber, could had become another statistic.

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;40484682]1- The twitch COULD have happened, as with anything else. And taking a blast from a shotgun point face is not something easy to stand...like catbarf says. It didn't happen this time because the robber DID expect him to move. What he didn't expect was that specific move. Robbers only rob when they are 100% things might go out as they think. Wasn't this case. 2-[B]Take a look at the shotgun when everything starts. The robber actually cocks the shotgun, and no shell is ejected. [/B]I dont know assaulted POV (He doesnt show any sign when the cocking sound is heard), but if he did actually knew that the gun was loaded, the action was 100% justified. Otherwise, he should have just handed in everything. There's no need from a robber POV to cock the gun before assaulting someone. Taking by surprise someone, and showing him/her a 12g muzzle is more than enough. 3-Thankfully, as said before, the robber didn't fight back. Should him have fought back, that guy, who awesomely disarmed the robber, could had become another statistic.[/QUOTE] Do you not know how a shotgun works?