Senior Adviser: John Kasich to Suspend Presidential Campaign - Polidicks

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;50256054]The court listens to public opinion too.[/QUOTE] No, it really doesn't...

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;50256087]Yes.. yes they do: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amicus_curiae[/URL] More specifically, an amicus curiae brief. Every court case gets HUNDREDS of these. They don't just consider their decision based on oral arguments alone.[/QUOTE] Um amicus curie are not "public opinions" you know.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;50256078]You do realize that his appointments have to be confirmed by the senate, right? You do realize that the senate isn't going to confirm batshit crazy people right? You do realize that the entire system is set up so "big bad evil trump" can't happen, right?[/QUOTE] I'm aware of the checks in place for Justice appointments, thanks. I appreciate the snarky and patronizing rhetorical questions though. FYI a Trump appointment doesn't need to be "batshit crazy" do to significant damage to this country and its people. Just look at some of the incredibly important 5-4 decisions that wouldn't have come to pass with a few more conservative justices. Same sex marriage, for one.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;50256081]Or not, because I highly doubt he's the dumbass that everyone makes him out to be. I'd say we'd have 4 years of "more of the same", and then he'd be out.[/QUOTE] Your entire argument hinges on a ridiculous amount of optimism that "no guys seriously, Trump isn't as dumb as he looks, trust me!" That same line of thinking is what got us to this point where he could take the Presidency in the first place

Bernie winning Indiana is pretty obvious proof that Hillary needs to stop pretending her voter base is going to fall on line with her and actually start courting Bernie supporters instead "pivoting" to the general election. Too bad for her though, trump is going to get a lot of time to campaign solely against her.

[QUOTE=Aztec;50256120]Bernie winning Indiana is pretty obvious proof that Hillary needs to stop pretending her voter base is going to fall on line with her and actually start courting Bernie supporters instead "pivoting" to the general election. Too bad for her though, trump is going to get a lot of time to campaign solely against her.[/QUOTE] How does people voting for their preferred candidate in a primary suggest they might not vote for the other candidate in the general election?

From 5 hours ago [url]http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/03/politics/john-kasich-not-leaving-race-ted-cruz/[/url] [quote=John Kasich is not going anywhere]Cruz suspended his White House bid Tuesday, shortly after his drubbing in the Indiana primary. Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus quickly declared Trump his party's presumptive nominee. John Weaver, Kasich's chief strategist, took to Twitter to push back. "Appreciate @Reince & his hard work for @GOP, but until someone has 1,237 bound delegates there is no presumptive nominee. CA here we come," Weaver tweeted. Kasich will now pitch himself as the lone alternative to what his advisers see as an immensely damaging election up and down the ballot for Republicans, one adviser said. Gone will be the unending focus on process an delegates, replaced by an elevated focus on the choice between the two candidates -- a stark one, Kasich's advisers say.[/quote] :v:

[QUOTE=Altimor;50256131]How does people voting for their preferred candidate in a primary suggest they might not vote for the other candidate in the general election?[/QUOTE] Because we are near the end of the cycle and Bernie is at a statistical loss. Hillary anticipated that his perceived weakness in the eastern primaries was going to make him appear non viable and she stopped campaigning in Indiana. Then she lost in an upset. She's going to have to fight for them in an already incredibly expensive campaign while trump moves on

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;50256118]To submit one to the supreme court, you merely follow the template. LITERALLY ANYONE can submit one. I'd recommend you check out the shear number of these briefs, and who pens them.[/QUOTE] Yes if courts need an expertise in a particular field that they are not well-versed. It's not a legal tool used to enquire about public opinion. You might want to read your linked wiki page again (learn the difference between a [I]de facto amicus curiae[/I] and a technical [I]amicus curiae[/I])

What we need now is for the Trump University lawsuit to end with jail time for Donald Babyhands, and the Hillary email probe to end now in such a way as to make her completely unable to win. These need to happen now, so the parties can find other candidates to run. This is now the only way we'll get sane, likable candidates to run. Bernie's the obvious pick for the Democrats, but I don't even know who would win in a Republican primary sans Trump. Probably Cruz, but there's really no telling.

[QUOTE=Aztec;50256148]Because we are near the end of the cycle and Bernie is at a statistical loss. Hillary anticipated that his perceived weakness in the eastern primaries was going to make him appear non viable and she stopped campaigning un Indiana. Then she lost in an upset.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but that doesn't say anything about the general election. There's no reason for tactical voting in a primary, so if those people prefer Bernie, they're still going to vote Bernie. Preferring Bernie over Hillary doesn't give any data about whether they prefer Hillary over Trump.

[QUOTE=gman003-main;50256164]What we need now is for the Trump University lawsuit to end with jail time for Donald Babyhands, and the Hillary email probe to end now in such a way as to make her completely unable to win. These need to happen now, so the parties can find other candidates to run. This is now the only way we'll get sane, likable candidates to run. Bernie's the obvious pick for the Democrats, but I don't even know who would win in a Republican primary sans Trump. Probably Cruz, but there's really no telling.[/QUOTE] Im ready for jeb

[QUOTE=Altimor;50256171]Yeah, but that doesn't say anything about the general election. There's no reason for tactical voting in a primary, so if those people prefer Bernie, they're still going to vote Bernie. Preferring Bernie over Hillary doesn't give any data about whether they prefer Hillary over Trump.[/QUOTE] I think you misunderstood me. I'm saying she can't pivot early to a general election voter base because she just tried and lost in an upset. General election campaigning usually pushes democrats from the left to the center. Bernie is forcing her to the left while Trump now has a chance for some free shots.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;50256036]Stepping back I genuinely cannot believe that this is happening. In 2012 we were all laughing at Jon Stewart making fun of Trump for eating pizza with a fork as he was the least serious and the biggest joke candidate in the cycle. Now he's the Republican candidate. If you had told me this would be happened 4 years ago I would've laughed you out of the room. Now this unabashedly racist, egocentric warmonger has a genuine chance to become the President of the United States. And people wonder why I can't take the conservative voterbase of this country seriously. What a joke.[/QUOTE] Then you look at his competition and realize he's the most liberal candidate there and you realize how bad the republican party has gotten.

[QUOTE=zerglingv2;50255920]You're about 15 years late to that party.[/QUOTE] Longer than that. Reagan was quite a while ago wasn't he? [editline]4th May 2016[/editline] It's embarrassing how he has essentially become a Godlike figure for the Republican party.

[QUOTE=gman003-main;50256164]What we need now is for the Trump University lawsuit to end with jail time for Donald Babyhands, and the Hillary email probe to end now in such a way as to make her completely unable to win. These need to happen now, so the parties can find other candidates to run. This is now the only way we'll get sane, likable candidates to run.[/QUOTE] That lawsuit is just a civil case so it won't land him any jail time. Instead he'll pay some big fine, or likely just settle out of court and then move on.

[QUOTE=MissZoey;50255754]Trump is now confirmed to win...?[/QUOTE] How many people are going to be banned because of this

Kasich obviously didn't want to risk the wrath of the zodiac killer more than he already has.

[QUOTE=Vitalogy;50256266]That lawsuit is just a civil case so it won't land him any jail time. Instead he'll pay some big fine, or likely just settle out of court and then move on.[/QUOTE] I thought there were both civil and criminal cases going on? Fraud is classified as a felony in most states, it can be pursued as a criminal case.

[QUOTE=Reshy;50256030]I remember seeing a gif that was Donald Trump debating five other Donald Trump, shame I can't find it now because it'd be very fitting.[/QUOTE] [vid]http://i.imgur.com/a4fgbZM.webm[/vid]

I guess he ran out of destinations to enjoy free food

[QUOTE=Aztec;50256186]I think you misunderstood me. I'm saying she can't pivot early to a general election voter base because she just tried and lost in an upset. General election campaigning usually pushes democrats from the left to the center. Bernie is forcing her to the left while Trump now has a chance for some free shots.[/QUOTE] Bernie may have won, but not by enough to change anything. He can win every remaining state by the same margin and still end up with less pledged delegates.

[QUOTE=CatFodder;50256469]Bernie may have won, but not by enough to change anything. He can win every remaining state by the same margin and still end up with less pledged delegates.[/QUOTE] That doesn't change the fact that Hillary is being forced to campaign for the primary rather than the general election, can't focus on Trump, and still has to devote millions to the remaining states while Trump can do whatever he wants now. Which is what my actual point is, not that Bernie is going to win.

[QUOTE=Aztec;50256491]That doesn't change the fact that Hillary is being forced to campaign for the primary rather than the general election, can't focus on Trump, and still has to devote millions to the remaining states while Trump can do whatever he wants now.[/QUOTE] Trump is such a polarizing figure, I like to think that he's the best argument against himself. Kind of like this, but with trump: [url]http://www.theonion.com/video/brutal-anti-cruz-attack-ad-just-30-seconds-candida-52562[/url]

[QUOTE=proboardslol;50256504]Trump is such a polarizing figure, I like to think that he's the best argument against himself. Kind of like this, but with trump: [url]http://www.theonion.com/video/brutal-anti-cruz-attack-ad-just-30-seconds-candida-52562[/url][/QUOTE] Trump has been polarizing for sure. And I think his chances as they stand right now are slim. But I don't think the guy is stupid and I do think he's going to pivot just like any politician to a more center platform for the general election and he has time now to do it.

[QUOTE=Aztec;50256518]Trump has been polarizing for sure. And I think his chances as they stand right now are slim. But I don't think the guy is stupid and I do think he's going to pivot just like any politician to a more center platform for the general election and he has time now to do it.[/QUOTE] I think Clinton has less road to travel to the center than Trump does. Clinton only has to come back from Maternity leave and debt forgiveness programs. Trump has to come back from flat out racism

[QUOTE=CatFodder;50256051]He can appoint a Supreme Court Justice and overturn Roe v Wade. We may be on the brink of a new era of coathanger abortions.[/QUOTE] It's honestly the appointment of supreme Court justices that is one of the most concerning powers of the president imo. Supreme Court justices can reign for life in a position of incredible legal authority, extending the will of the person who appointed them well beyond the presidential term.

[QUOTE=proboardslol;50256525]I think Clinton has less road to travel to the center than Trump does. Clinton only has to come back from Maternity leave and debt forgiveness programs. Trump has to come back from flat out racism[/QUOTE] It's not a good pick at all but I heard earlier on NPR from a Wallstreet journal correspondent that Trump's "willful disregard for the donor class will be his downfall in sn expensive general election". I think that highlights two strengths he has going into this. He now has time to gather funds while Hillary spends it and the anti establishment vibe he gives off.

[QUOTE=Aztec;50256550]It's not a good pick at all but I heard earlier on NPR from a Wallstreet journal correspondent that Trump's "willful disregard for the donor class will be his downfall in sn expensive general election". I think that highlights two strengths he has going into this. He now has time to gather funds while Hillary spends it and the anti establishment vibe he gives off.[/QUOTE] I think that Clinton also has a lot more allies than any of the other candidates in the race did, even more than Jeb did in the oil industry

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;50256333][vid]http://i.imgur.com/a4fgbZM.webm[/vid][/QUOTE] With sound [video=youtube;DKqW4gw4wsg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKqW4gw4wsg[/video]