Paris ban on Muslim street prayers comes into effect - Polidicks

I'd probably hate America too if I were a muslim.

[QUOTE=acds;32323304][B]Every[/B] religion (and non-religion, so atheists too) should keep their beliefs private and personal. Nothing wrong with talking about your religion with others you know and all that, but you don't go out in the middle of the street and practice it, there is a reason there are Churches/Mosques/Synagogues/Monasteries/Whatever all over the place (this goes for a lot of stuff actually, not only religion).[/QUOTE] Except mosques were actually full of people going there to pray, which let a big part of them out and having to do their prayer in the middle of the street. Thankfully the problem is solved and bigger mosques will be built.

[QUOTE=faze;32323318]You know what I mean. If somebody comes into a thread trolling, you want them out. They're burning flags and starting all kinds of shit in western countries, they need to be removed. If they are here peacefully, they're fine. I'm not talking about any religion, culture, race or anything...if you immigrate to another country to start shit, you need to be removed. Get it now?[/QUOTE] World government is not a goddamn internet forum. You can't just kick people out for speaking freely, you fascist lunatic. Patriotism is not a goddamn requisite for citizenship.

[QUOTE=Lankist;32323314]hey guys you have the freedom of speech just dont fucking say anything[/QUOTE] Freedom of speech should not be absolute. Some (quite a few actually) beliefs clash with each other, so keep it private (on top of that there are places specifically built for prayer and religious stuff, why practice it in the middle of the street?).

[QUOTE=Lankist;32323336]World government is not a goddamn internet forum. You can't just kick people out for speaking freely, you fascist lunatic. Patriotism is not a goddamn requisite for citizenship.[/QUOTE]I'm nowhere near fascist. You don't understand analogies do you? Or are you just trolling again?

[QUOTE=faze;32323318]You know what I mean. If somebody comes into a thread trolling, you want them out. They're burning flags and starting all kinds of shit in western countries, they need to be removed. If they are here peacefully, they're fine. I'm not talking about any religion, culture, race or anything...if you immigrate to another country to start shit, you need to be removed. Get it now?[/QUOTE] I get it but I'm far from agreeing. Kicking out of your country is pretty fucking disgusting knowing the united states always were a country of immigration and renewal.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32323357]I get it but I'm far from agreeing. Kicking out of your country is pretty fucking disgusting knowing the united states always were a country of immigration and renewal.[/QUOTE]Why allow people into your country who hate it and want to express their hatred for it?

[QUOTE=acds;32323340]Freedom of speech should not be absolute. Some (quite a few actually) beliefs clash with each other, so keep it private (on top of that there are places specifically built for prayer and religious stuff, why practice it in the middle of the street?).[/QUOTE] so you can say whatever you want as long as what you say is pointless? So you can't protest the government? You can't rally around a cause? What about Martin Luther King Jr.? His beliefs clashed pretty obviously with the beliefs of racists. Guess he should have kept that shit at home, right? You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and I suggest you take your own advice by keeping your stupid opinions to yourself. After all, the bullshit you say CLASHES with every fucking legal precedence established in nearly every first-world country on the goddamn planet.

I always found it funny how some people of different religions always fight over their beliefs when most of the time they are all talking about the same thing. They always make it seem like there isn't any common ground at all between.

[QUOTE=faze;32323355]I'm nowhere near fascist. You don't understand analogies do you? Or are you just trolling again?[/QUOTE] You said you should kick muslims out of a county if they protest. Protest is a protected goddamn right, so is flag burning. You can't kick people out just because they disagree with you, you are not a fucking emperor.

[QUOTE=faze;32323367]Why allow people into your country who hate it and want to express their hatred for it?[/QUOTE]Uh, the flag burnings were in UK, not in the US. If it's that what you're referring to.

[QUOTE=Lankist;32323370]so you can say whatever you want as long as what you say is pointless? So you can't protest the government? You can't rally around a cause? What about Martin Luther King Jr.? His beliefs clashed pretty obviously with the beliefs of racists. Guess he should have kept that shit at home, right?[/QUOTE]Sure rally and protest away, but do it respectfully, not "fuck the west" style.

[QUOTE=Lankist;32323336]World government is not a goddamn internet forum. You can't just kick people out for speaking freely, you fascist lunatic. Patriotism is not a goddamn requisite for citizenship.[/QUOTE] Protesting peacefully is speaking freely. Burning flags, rioting and preaching violence against people with different beliefs is not.

[QUOTE=Lankist;32323373]You said you should kick muslims out of a county if they protest. Protest is a protected goddamn right, so is flag burning. You can't kick people out just because they disagree with you, you are not a fucking emperor.[/QUOTE]They hate the west, not just one country. They also fuck with Germany, UK, and other western countries, not just America.

[QUOTE=faze;32323379]Sure rally and protest away, but do it respectfully, not "fuck the west" style.[/QUOTE]If I don't like western culture why shouldn't be allowed to express it how I want?

[QUOTE=faze;32323379]Sure rally and protest away, but do it respectfully, not "fuck the west" style.[/QUOTE] So you can protest as long as you don't oppose anything? Who the fuck gets to dictate what is and isn't respectful? [editline]16th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=acds;32323384]Protesting peacefully is speaking freely. Burning flags, rioting and preaching violence against people with different beliefs is not.[/QUOTE] All protest is protected, not just the protests that don't affect you. You're basically telling people that they can't protest if they actually intend to change something. That is fucking bullshit.

[QUOTE=faze;32323379]Sure rally and protest away, but do it respectfully, not "fuck the west" style.[/QUOTE] You should stop watching fox news, there is no normal Muslim who does that, people pulling the fuck the west thing out are pretty much the same who endorse extremists.

[QUOTE=Lankist;32323370]so you can say whatever you want as long as what you say is pointless? So you can't protest the government? You can't rally around a cause? What about Martin Luther King Jr.? His beliefs clashed pretty obviously with the beliefs of racists. Guess he should have kept that shit at home, right? You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and I suggest you take your own advice by keeping your stupid opinions to yourself.[/QUOTE] There is a difference between political issues and religious ones. Religion isn't something you need to debate and decide which one is correct, you believing in that religion makes it correct for you. Big difference between that and what Luther King was fighting about.

[QUOTE=Lankist;32323406]So you can protest as long as you don't oppose anything? Who the fuck gets to dictate what is and isn't respectful? [editline]16th September 2011[/editline] All protest is protected, not just the protects that don't affect you.[/QUOTE]Did you even read what I said? [QUOTE=Ond kaja;32323399]If I don't like western culture why shouldn't be allowed to express it how I want?[/QUOTE]Again, see above. Protest [B]peacefully.[/B] Don't go out spreading hatred. Why is this concept so hard to get through to you two?

Don't they have mosques in France? No one prays on the streets in Qatar...

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32323414]You should stop watching fox news, there is no normal Muslim who does that, people pulling the fuck the west thing out are pretty much the same who endorse extremists.[/QUOTE] The ones who DO say fuck the west are WELL within their rights in doing so.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32323414]You should stop watching fox news, there is no normal Muslim who does that, people pulling the fuck the west thing out are pretty much the same who endorse extremists.[/QUOTE]Then the peaceful ones are fine, again...read what the fuck I'm saying. If they're here to spread hatred and protest hatefully and disrespectfully, they deserve to be removed.

[QUOTE=faze;32323426]Did you even read what I said?[/QUOTE] Yes, you said you can't protest if it's "disrespectful." To what? To whom? Who gets to decide what is and isn't respectful? What if the status-quo says the idea of black people having sex with white people is disrespectful? Can't protest that? Too fucking disrespectful, like it or leave it? You're an American. You should goddamn well know that the shit you're saying is a crock of horse shit, and the ONLY reason you're even allowed to say it is due to the freedoms you are preaching AGAINST.

[QUOTE=Lankist;32323406] All protest is protected, not just the protests that don't affect you. You're basically telling people that they can't protest if they actually intend to change something. That is fucking bullshit.[/QUOTE] No, you can't protest when you are damaging others and preaching damage to others.

[QUOTE=Lankist;32323445]Yes, you said you can't protest if it's "disrespectful." To what? To whom? Who gets to decide what is and isn't respectful?[/QUOTE]Respectful meaning don't say you hate the west and all it stands for. Protest peacefully. Don't get it? Tough shit. You have issues if you don't understand this blatantly simple concept.

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[QUOTE=Flubadoo;32323428]Don't they have mosques in France? No one prays on the streets in Qatar...[/QUOTE] They have mosques but they are full.

[QUOTE=faze;32323426] Again, see above. Protest [B]peacefully.[/B] Don't go out spreading hatred. Why is this concept so hard to get through to you two?[/QUOTE]I should be able to protest how I want as long as I don't hurt people or destroy property. Burning a flag which I bought myself is completely compatible with free speech, as it neither hurts people or destroy other's property.

[QUOTE=faze;32323441]Then the peaceful ones are fine, again...read what the fuck I'm saying. If they're here to spread hatred and protest hatefully and disrespectfully, they deserve to be removed.[/QUOTE] Hatred isn't illegal. Flag burning isn't illegal. I burn flags every year.

[QUOTE=Ond kaja;32323463]I should be able to protest how I want as long as I don't hurt people or destroy property. Burning a flag which I bought myself is completely compatible with free speech, as it neither hurts people or destroy other's property.[/QUOTE]So you're saying the extremists are perfectly ok holding up signs saying death to the west and whatnot? They should be left alone and allowed to spread death threats and hate? Wow.