Paris ban on Muslim street prayers comes into effect - Polidicks

[QUOTE=faze;32324262]What's so wrong with calling out an obvious lie? Do you want me to find a way to research it on Google and post results of his lie? Calling out a blatant lie is a pretty straight forward statement.[/QUOTE] Or you could, you know, have a real rebuttal. Every time I corner you, you just scream 'TROLL!' until you think I've forgotten about the stupid shit you'd said.

[QUOTE=Lankist;32324071]No he was implying Malcolm X abandoned Islam and then became peaceful. "Yes, post Malcolm X, the man who turned around after learning what Islam was really about started doing peaceful protests." As far as I can tell the "YES DEFINITELY" was sarcasm. Could be wrong.[/QUOTE] What? NO I said exactly what I meant, after traveling to Mecca and finding out he was taught what he thought was the wrong kind of Islam in Prison he came with his new found realization still being an Islamic believer. I never said he dropped his faith. You're putting words in my mouth.

[QUOTE=Swilly;32324293]What? NO I said exactly what I meant, after traveling to Mecca and finding out he thought was the wrong kind of Islam in Prison he came back still being an Islamic believer. I never said he dropped his faith. You're putting words in my mouth.[/QUOTE] I misunderstood, your post sounded sarcastic, especially given this thread is filled with racists and fascists who are chomping at the bit to hate Muslims.

[QUOTE=faze;32317994]Source: [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14945467[/url] I kind of agree with this. Tons of Muslims praying in the street in a western country, not a good idea. They banned it for the safety of the Muslims.[/QUOTE] yeah how dare dem dirty sand niggers practice different religions in my vicinity DO IT IN YUR OWN HOME YOU SAVAGES it really doesn't surprise me this thread is getting rated winner.

[QUOTE=Lankist;32324255]Yeah uh huh they aren't "real Christians." But the 4% of all global terrorism as a result of radical Islam, that's because it's an evil religion, right. Have you read the Bible? How about Like 19:27, the part where Jesus tells his disciples to bring unbelievers to his feet and kill them in front of him? [editline]16th September 2011[/editline][/QUOTE]Do I read the bible? Yes. I go to church every Sunday. You're interpreting that passage, it means this... The background of this story is civil war. Some of the king's subjects refuse to acknowledge him. As he tries to consolidate his kingdom in absentia, he discovers among his own servants one who seems more influenced by the rebels than by the loyal subjects. Like the kingdom in the story our world is in a state of civil war. Some people are loyal to God, their king in Heaven; while others refuse to acknowledge his Lordship. Even among God's servants, people can be found who act more like enemies than loyal subjects. One day the Lord will return to put an end to the civil war by destroying his enemies and recreating the earth.

you can't just say something's a lie you fucking sperg you have to actually prove it oh by the way lying includes proving the intent behind the statement, so have fun!

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32324176]what way are they screwing over "native people"?[/QUOTE] I haven't seen much of that going on in Scotland btw. Maybe it suddenly changes when you step over the border, but I can only imagine it's part of the usual "coming over here and stealing all our jobs" nonsense.

[QUOTE=Lankist;32324255] How about Like 19:27, the part where Jesus tells his disciples to bring unbelievers to his feet and kill them in front of him?[/QUOTE]It's a metaphor/parable for peace and tolerance.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;32324325]It's a metaphor/parable for peace and tolerance.[/QUOTE]Metaphor that relates specifically to the monarchy, not Jesus or God.

it's a metaphor for sex

[QUOTE=faze;32324314]Do I read the bible? Yes. I go to church every Sunday. You're interpreting that passage, it means this... The background of this story is civil war. Some of the king's subjects refuse to acknowledge him. As he tries to consolidate his kingdom in absentia, he discovers among his own servants one who seems more influenced by the rebels than by the loyal subjects. Like the kingdom in the story our world is in a state of civil war. Some people are loyal to God, their king in Heaven; while others refuse to acknowledge his Lordship. Even among God's servants, people can be found who act more like enemies than loyal subjects. One day the Lord will return to put an end to the civil war by destroying his enemies and recreating the earth.[/QUOTE] And what do you think of the identical passages in the Koran? Are those metaphors too? If Mohammad said "Kill the unbelievers" you'd get all pissy. When JESUS says it its a fucking METAPHOR YOU GUYS GOD

[QUOTE=Lankist;32324357]And what do you think of the identical passages in the Koran? Are those metaphors too?[/QUOTE]Never said they were metaphors. Luke 19:27 is part of a story used in a metaphor. Re-read what I said there.

[QUOTE=faze;32324335]Metaphor that relates specifically to the monarchy, not Jesus or God.[/QUOTE] thats funny because it sounds like a metaphor for nazi germany [editline]16th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=faze;32324373]Never said they were metaphors. Luke 19:27 is part of a story used in a metaphor. Re-read what I said there.[/QUOTE] a metaphor about the Kingdom that Jesus is going to rule and how his disciples will handle unbelievers. Also Christ doesn't say "GOD will kill the unbelievers." He says "YOU will kill the unbelievers"

[QUOTE=Lankist;32324225]Shit yes I know how to define it, I want to know how YOU define it. because this is how shit works here in the real world:[/QUOTE] Correction: That is how stuff works in the US, there are more countries in the "real world" than just the US. Also, hate speech and incitement to violence defines itself in most cases. In Germany for example: [quote]Section 130 makes it a crime to publicly incite hatred against parts of the population or to call for violent or arbitrary measures against them or to insult, maliciously slur or defame them in a manner violating their (constitutionally protected) human dignity. [/quote] Saying "No more war in Iraq!" is not hate speech, saying "Behead all American pigs!" on the other hand, is (you already know this).

[QUOTE=Lankist;32324305]I misunderstood, your post sounded sarcastic, especially given this thread is filled with racists and fascists who are chomping at the bit to hate Muslims.[/QUOTE] I don't hate muslims, but I can also see why having a bunch of them in the middle of the road blocking traffic for a city with tiny roads like Paris would be annoying. The act also forces the French government to build more mosques to help fix the current issue of not enough room. It works for both sides, its called diplomacy.

[QUOTE=acds;32324391]Correction: That is how stuff works in the US, there are more countries in the "real world" than just the US.[/QUOTE] Don't really give a shit about Germany, Faze is an American and I am an American and he's saying America should get rid of Muslims. If he were German I wouldn't be discussing Germany's current and historical fascism against political dissenters.

Sad to see this thread turn into an argument where people are essentially on the same side, just wording it differently! Anyone who's reading this now, read the rest of the pages on the thread. The first few have some stuff that you might not know about Islam. As for now (if anyone cares), I'm back online. I can answer anything you may be wondering about Islam.

Saying "Death to Muslim assholes" is a hate speech as well, yet no one yelled when people went in the streets to say that after 9-11 or after the death of Bin Laden.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32324431]Saying "Death to Muslim assholes" is a hate speech as well, yet no one yelled when people went in the streets to say that after 9-11 or after the death of Bin Laden.[/QUOTE] Saying "round up the Muslims and deport them" is hate speech. Saying "act how I tell you or get out" is also hateful.

Look. The flag burning, 'behead all infedels' thing can be compared to the Westborough Baptist Church. There are always going to be some people who take it way too seriously and say really dumb shit, do you have ANY idea how many Americans come to this part of the world for work and are treated better than the locals themselves? Seriously. Americans and UK citizens have a HUGE advantage over my Jordanian citizenship job-wise. They love you guys! Why you gotta hate? :(

[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32324470]Look. The flag burning, 'behead all infedels' thing can be compared to the Westborough Catholic Church. There are always going to be some people who take it way too seriously and say really dumb shit, do you have ANY idea how many Americans come to this part of the world for work and are treated better than the locals themselves? Seriously. Americans and UK residents have a HUGE advantage over my Jordanian citizenship job-wise. They love you guys! Why you gotta hate? :([/QUOTE] Faze is just a Christian who hates Muslims and think they should be deported, you can ignore him he's a troll.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32324431]Saying "Death to Muslim assholes" is a hate speech as well, yet no one yelled when people went in the streets to say that after 9-11 or after the death of Bin Laden.[/QUOTE] A lot of people did (me included). I don't think anyone is saying that hate speech is exclusive to Muslims (at least I don't).

Because fox news told them Islam = EVIL

[QUOTE=acds;32324497]A lot of people did (me included). I don't think anyone is saying that hate speech is exclusive to Muslims (at least I don't).[/QUOTE] And yet you weren't deported. seems a bit of a double-standard there.

[QUOTE=Swilly;32324409]I don't hate muslims, but I can also see why having a bunch of them in the middle of the road blocking traffic for a city with tiny roads like Paris would be annoying. The act also forces the French government to build more mosques to help fix the current issue of not enough room. It works for both sides, its called diplomacy.[/QUOTE] people shouldn't block public roads and the french government shouldn't be obliged to pay for mosques

[QUOTE=Lankist;32324513]And yet you weren't deported. seems a bit of a double-standard there.[/QUOTE] Oh wow where'd you pull that one from? First off, I didn't go out yelling "Death to all those that are preaching hate!". Second, I never said people that preach hate speech should be deported.

[QUOTE=Lankist;32324513]And yet you weren't deported. seems a bit of a double-standard there.[/QUOTE] I might have misinterpreted it, but I think he was saying that he complained about going onto the streets, not that he actually did it.

The government wasn't obligated to pay Mosques - this is their own choice to not only give Muslims a place to pray in the mean time, but also to help them build proper cult places.

[QUOTE=acds;32324553]Oh wow where'd you pull that one from? First off, I didn't go out yelling "Death to all those that are preaching hate!". Second, I never said people that preach hate speech should be deported.[/QUOTE] You said they should be stopped. Were you stopped? Have you ever been stopped for preaching any manner of main-stream hatred? Don't pretend you haven't. This is my point. When you ban hate speech, you don't *really* ban hate speech. All of the mainstream, cultural and national hatred goes unpunished. The only people who are ever stopped are the people who go against the grain. That sort of political system is fascism. It's almost invariably used to crush political dissidents while allowing mainstream opinion to continue unabashed by criticism.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32324580]proper cult places.[/QUOTE] are you kidding me