Paris ban on Muslim street prayers comes into effect
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[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318217]What amazes me is that the western world don't understand that these people don't just want to make the west Muslim, they want the Muslim world to follow THEIR interpretation of Muslim. Qatar, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Bahrain, Kuwait, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates; they are all equally as in danger and equally 'at war' with the terrorists despite all having muslim majorities on the grounds just because we don't want to follow their lunatic idea of Islam. You're talking about a few hundred people that are representing the 1.3 billion muslims on earth.[/QUOTE]The number of Muslims is around 1 billion actually, and extremists in the hundreds of thousands.
[editline]16th September 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32318232]Assuming Muslim extremism is part of Islam (which I don't agree with), it's still a very small part of it.
By the way, did you know extremists are using porn sites to pass ads in order to gather new troops ? Kinda ironic when you know porn is forbidden to Muslims :v:[/QUOTE]Murder is also forbidden for Muslims, but they do it anyway.
[QUOTE=faze;32318234]The number of Muslims is around 1 billion actually, and extremists in the hundreds of thousands.
[editline]16th September 2011[/editline]
Murder is also forbidden for Muslims, but they do it anyway.[/QUOTE]
Murder is pretty much forbidden in all monotheist religions.
But yeah, they are always getting out the shittiest argument ever. GOD'S WILL !!!!1!
Though sometimes it's getting some good results (most Libyan rebels were motivated by faith), it also gives a lot of very bad outcomes.
Well murder is not allowed but killing is, back during the time of the prophet, the non belivers had to convert or pay a rent (a small one) or die (in a war) also they would not kill women and kids.
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;32318231]Muslims have to stop what they're doing and pray five times a day, regardless of where they are or what they're doing.[/QUOTE]
Exaggerated. There are five calls to prayer a day. One before sunrise, one in the noon, one in the afternoon, one at sundown and finally one at night. You don't have to 'stop what you're doing', you just have to make sure the prayer has been completed before the subsequent call for the following prayer. Also, it is preferred to be in a clean place (We usually just buy prayer mats). You can pray all of them are home, although in congregation is 'better' by choice; however the Friday noon prayer has to be prayed in a group.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32318260]Murder is pretty much forbidden in all monotheist religions.
But yeah, they are always getting out the shittiest argument ever. GOD'S WILL !!!!1![/QUOTE]Pretty much, they kill the infidel in the name of Allah.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32318232]Assuming Muslim extremism is part of Islam (which I don't agree with), it's still a very small part of it.
By the way, did you know extremists are using porn sites to pass ads in order to gather new troops ? Kinda ironic when you know porn is forbidden to Muslims :v:[/QUOTE]
it's their damned way to make these muslim pornwatchertards repentance with the wrong way.and tell them the wrong "Jihad" is the only way to redeem their sins,
It was always like this, crusades etc...
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[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318273]Also, it is preferred to be in a clean place (We usually just buy prayer mats).[/QUOTE]
Reminded me of that one teacher I had that went apeshit, not only because one of his pupils stopped taking notes and started praying, but because he did it while wearing gloves, which pissed the teacher off because he found it insulting.
Which is kinda true since the classroom was cleaned right before the class began.
[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318301]-snip-[/QUOTE]So killing another person is forbidden in Islam as it is in Christianity, yes?
Killing people is forbidden in both.
YOU SHALL NOT KILL is kinda one of the ten commandments y'know.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32318320]Killing people is forbidden in both.
YOU SHALL NOT KILL is kinda one of the ten commandments y'know.[/QUOTE]Right I'm a Christian so I understand that...what's the Quaran say?
[QUOTE=Nanamil;32318270]Well murder is not allowed but killing is, back during the time of the prophet, the non belivers had to convert or pay a rent (a small one) or die (in a war) also they would not kill women and kids.[/QUOTE]
The dhimmi tax is just used for charity which is an otherwise obligation of other Muslims. It gives them the official right to worship whatever they want, eat pork, drink alcohol, whatever. It's just to find a common ground to welcome people of open faiths; only asking that they respect the religion of the people they're surrounded in. Killing was only ever allowed in self defense.
[QUOTE=faze;32318324]Right I'm a Christian so I understand that...what's the Quaran say?[/QUOTE]
Dunno what's exactly the quotation, but I know it's written you must not kill.
Also, I'd just like to know from muslims, does halal food have any incidence on taste, appearance, chances of it being infected or whatever else ?
'cause a French fast food chain actually decided to make its meat halal so Luslims could eat there, and everyone yelled because it was forcing religion down their throat or some bullshit like that.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32318337]*
Dunno what's exactly the quotation, but I know it's written you must not kill.[/QUOTE]So how the hell do the peaceful Muslim terrorists interpret that as "kill innocent people (women and children) that are going to destroy us?"
[QUOTE=faze;32318275]Pretty much, they kill the infidel in the name of Allah.[/QUOTE]
Muslims is only allowed to kill for defending themself,Fighting for freedom,even Muslims Is sinned When they have desire to kill at their own will while defending themself.And there's still an Tight Rules In jihad.
[QUOTE=n00b_modders;32318347]Muslims is only allowed to kill for defending themself,Fighting for freedom,even Muslims Is sinned When they have desire to kill at their own will while defending themself.And there's still an Tight Rules In jihad.[/QUOTE]Then terrorists are pretty hypocritical. Explains the theories of brainwashing.
[QUOTE=faze;32318311]So killing another person is forbidden in Islam as it is in Christianity, yes?[/QUOTE]
I snipped because I mis-understood his statement, but yes. This is the passage from the Quran that talks about killing:
"Whosoever has spared the life of a soul, it is as though he has spared the life of all people. Whosoever has killed a soul, it is as though he has murdered all of mankind."
[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318361]I snipped because I mis-understood his statement, but yes. This is the passage from the Quran that talks about killing:
"Whosoever has spared the life of a soul, it is as though he has spared the life of all people. Whosoever has killed a soul, it is as though he has murdered all of mankind."[/QUOTE]Freaking terrorists need to read that word for word and stop trying to interpret it.
Christians praying on the streets of Iraq.
Oh wait.
[QUOTE=faze;32318344]So how the hell do the peaceful Muslim terrorists interpret that as "kill innocent people (women and children) that are going to destroy us?"[/QUOTE]
Muslim IS NEVER ALLOWED KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE in jihad otherwise.they goes straight to the hell.
My people are awesome.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32318337]Dunno what's exactly the quotation, but I know it's written you must not kill.
Also, I'd just like to know from muslims, does halal food have any incidence on taste, appearance, chances of it being infected or whatever else ?
'cause a French fast food chain actually decided to make its meat halal so muslims could eat, and everyone yelled because it was forcing religion down their throat or some bullshit like that.[/QUOTE]
All meat of 'halal' nature is, is that you say a prayer before slaughtering the animal and with a knife you quickly cut its jugular veins; in a way that it cannot feel pain/torture and it quickly dies and you wait for it to bleed out.
[QUOTE=n00b_modders;32318373]Muslim IS NEVER ALLOWED KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE in jihad otherwise.they goes straight to the hell.[/QUOTE]Then the Taliban aren't Muslim are they, they're just insane.
[QUOTE=faze;32318344]So how the hell do the peaceful Muslim terrorists interpret that as "kill innocent people (women and children) that are going to destroy us?"[/QUOTE]
I watched a documentary on this. Basically, the idea in the terrorist's mind is that he is dying to protect his faith. Not dying to kill - but to send a message and become a martyr.
It's kind of selfish at its base. He likes to think he's being righteous, but at the end of the day it's paradise he's seeking.
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[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318403]Islam was born in an age of violent oppression, and to survive it had to be very clear on self defense; saying that if people are attacking your religion, defend it to your death and you will be rewarded in the afterlife. In a REAL scenario, this would mean: If someone put a gun to your head, and told you to chose between Islam and life; if you say Islam then you are rewarded. The terrorist ideology is that since America is supposedly occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, they want to drive them out by killing their innocents 'in self defense'.[/QUOTE]
That too.
[QUOTE=faze;32318357]Then terrorists are pretty hypocritical. Explains the theories of brainwashing.[/QUOTE]
Islam allows murder for the sake of Freedom. From that point, terrorists' thought goes something like this : Allah is offering freedom, thus as followers of Allah we are for this freedom, thus people who don't agree with us are against freedom, thus we must declare war on these people for the sake of freedom.
That's a pretty stupid way to think, but that's how they do.
Also, yeah, they have brainwashing schools where kids sit in front of a Quran and read it out loud while tilting themselves back and forth.
[QUOTE=faze;32318344]So how the hell do the peaceful Muslim terrorists interpret that as "kill innocent people (women and children) that are going to destroy us?"[/QUOTE]
Islam was born in an age of violent oppression, and to survive it had to be very clear on self defense; saying that if people are attacking your religion, defend it to your death and you will be rewarded in the afterlife. In a REAL scenario, this would mean: If someone put a gun to your head, and told you to chose between Islam and life; if you say Islam then you are rewarded. The terrorist ideology is that since America is supposedly occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, they want to drive them out by killing their innocents 'in self defense'.
[QUOTE=Cone;32318389]I watched a documentary on this. Basically, the idea in the terrorist's mind is that he is dying to protect his faith. Not dying to kill - but to send a message and become a martyr.
It's kind of selfish at its base. He likes to think he's being righteous, but at the end of the day it's paradise he's seeking.[/QUOTE]Yeah, well I hope all 72 of their virgins are shemales with aids.
[QUOTE=Cone;32318389]I watched a documentary on this. Basically, the idea in the terrorist's mind is that he is dying to protect his faith. Not dying to kill - but to send a message and become a martyr.
It's kind of selfish at its base. He likes to think he's being righteous, but at the end of the day it's paradise he's seeking.[/QUOTE]
Ridiculous simplification of an incredibly complex issue, based on one documentary you watched.
Nice.
[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318381]All meat of 'halal' nature is, is that you say a prayer before slaughtering the animal and with a knife you quickly cut its jugular veins; in a way that it cannot feel pain/torture and it quickly dies and you wait for it to bleed out.[/QUOTE]
I've also heard it has to have its head turned toward the Mosque while dying. Poetic.
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