Paris ban on Muslim street prayers comes into effect - Polidicks

[QUOTE=faze;32318382]Then the Taliban aren't Muslim are they, they're just insane.[/QUOTE] Precisely.

[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318403]Islam was born in an age of violent oppression, and to survive it had to be very clear on self defense; saying that if people are attacking your religion, defend it to your death and you will be rewarded in the afterlife. In a REAL scenario, this would mean: If someone put a gun to your head, and told you to chose between Islam and life; if you say Islam then you are rewarded. The terrorist ideology is that since America is supposedly occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, they want to drive them out by killing their innocents 'in self defense'.[/QUOTE]We weren't occupying Iraq and Afghanistan when they attacked us on 9/11. They're the nutjobs starting shit.

I thought it was pretty much already assumed talibans are just batshit insane. Also you had bases around there. It's the presence of these bases that startled Bin Laden and pushed him to go 9/11 up your twins.

[QUOTE=Mr.Haughty;32318407]Ridiculous simplification of an incredibly complex issue, based on one documentary you watched. Nice.[/QUOTE] Well sorry, but I'm not exactly very learned on this issue. I'm going off the information I have.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32318408]I've also heard it has to have its head turned toward the Mosque while dying. Poetic.[/QUOTE] Hahaha, no you're getting mixed up. When people are buried in a grave, their head is turned towards the Kaaba, which is in Mecca and was (what we believed to be) the house that Abraham built for god when proving his faith to him (Sound familiar?). You also have to pray otwards it. It's just a religious site and a way to express unity among muslims, we're not worshipping it as a shrine at all, it's just a common ground for us all to look in the same direction. Which is pretty poetic. As for the animals, it's not true.

[QUOTE=faze;32318311]So killing another person is forbidden in Islam as it is in Christianity, yes?[/QUOTE] yes,you are guaranteed Go to hell if killing other people.however You still could be forgiven how much the sin you have as long as you Really repent and never do the bad things in the past.

[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318433]Hahaha, no you're getting mixed up. When people are buried in a grave, their head is turned towards the Kaaba, which is in Mecca and was (what we believed to be) the house that Abraham built for god when proving his faith to him (Sound familiar?). You also have to pray otwards it. It's just a religious site and a way to express unity among muslims, we're not worshipping it as a shrine at all, it's just a common ground for us all to look in the same direction. Which is pretty poetic. As for the animals, it's not true.[/QUOTE]No offense, but wasn't Abraham a pedophile?

Also, talibans and other extremists are not "complex". They are power hungry people who want to fight for power, with a fake ideology behind it to support their attempted rise to power. If there's a lot of ways to explain why they do so, it's mainly because themselves don't have a common excuse to do it. It's pretty much exactly like Mussolini in Italy - they start with various beatings, keep going with terrorism, and eventually end up at the head of state while finding someone for everyone to hate so they can assume total power.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32318408]I've also heard it has to have its head turned toward the Mosque while dying. Poetic.[/QUOTE] Not just any Mosque, specifically the Kiblah so In these times that would be the Kaaba in Mecca.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32318456]Also, talibans and other extremists are not "complex". They are power hungry people who want to fight for power, with a fake ideology behind it to support their attempted rise to power. If there's a lot of ways to explain why they do so, it's mainly because themselves don't have a common excuse to do it. It's pretty much exactly like Mussolini in Italy - they start with various beatings, keep going with terrorism, and eventually end up at the head of state while finding someone for everyone to hate so they can assume total power.[/QUOTE]Yeah, pretty much.

[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318433]Hahaha, no you're getting mixed up. When people are buried in a grave, their head is turned towards the Kaaba, which is in Mecca and was (what we believed to be) the house that Abraham built for god when proving his faith to him (Sound familiar?). You also have to pray otwards it. It's just a religious site and a way to express unity among muslims, we're not worshipping it as a shrine at all, it's just a common ground for us all to look in the same direction. Which is pretty poetic. As for the animals, it's not true.[/QUOTE] I was only talking about the animals whenever they're killed. But thanks for correcting me, if I only referred myself to wikipedia I would've been wrong.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32318456]Also, talibans and other extremists are not "complex". They are power hungry people who want to fight for power, with a fake ideology behind it to support their attempted rise to power. If there's a lot of ways to explain why they do so, it's mainly because themselves don't have a common excuse to do it. It's pretty much exactly like Mussolini in Italy - they start with various beatings, keep going with terrorism, and eventually end up at the head of state while finding someone for everyone to hate so they can assume total power.[/QUOTE] Ridiculous, Islamic terrorism is an incredibly complex and confusing issue.

[QUOTE=faze;32318444]No offense, but wasn't Abraham a pedophile?[/QUOTE] I'd imagine that's part of it. God forgives, and all that. And, y'know, a lot of things were like that back then.

[QUOTE=faze;32318444]No offense, but wasn't Abraham a pedophile?[/QUOTE] no,how could you say that? btw, you're almost offending 3 Religions.

[QUOTE=faze;32318444]No offense, but wasn't Abraham a pedophile?[/QUOTE] Are we talking about the same Abraham? Or do you mean Muhammad because one of his wives were young? If you mean the latter, I'd love to clear up that huge misconception for you.

[QUOTE=Cone;32318477]I'd imagine that's part of it. God forgives, and all that. And, y'know, a lot of things were like that back then.[/QUOTE]I saw something very recently, in the last year of 25+ Muslim men marrying 12 year old girls. So, it's still happening. So is polygamy. [editline]16th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318485]Are we talking about the same Abraham? Or do you mean Muhammad because one of his wives were young? If you mean the latter, I'd love to clear up that huge misconception for you.[/QUOTE]Shit, Muhammad, my bad.

[QUOTE=Mr.Haughty;32318475]Ridiculous, Islamic terrorism is an incredibly complex and confusing issue.[/QUOTE] They're religious extremists and are willing to kill innocent men, women and children to achieve their goals. How is this complex, exactly?

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32318394]Islam allows murder for the sake of Freedom. From that point, terrorists' thought goes something like this : Allah is offering freedom, thus as followers of Allah we are for this freedom, thus people who don't agree with us are against freedom, thus we must declare war on these people for the sake of freedom. That's a pretty stupid way to think, but that's how they do. Also, yeah, they have brainwashing schools where kids sit in front of a Quran and read it out loud while tilting themselves back and forth.[/QUOTE]Where does the Quran say that murder for freedom is okay? And where is freedom defined?

'cause we know things about how religious characters were like back then. Though I really doubt Abraham was a pedophile, it sounds like an excuse found by anti-Muslims to hate them more. [QUOTE=Mr.Haughty;32318475]Ridiculous, Islamic terrorism is an incredibly complex and confusing issue.[/QUOTE] Well then, tell us, if we're wrong.

[QUOTE=Cone;32318496]They're religious extremists and are willing to kill innocent men, women and children to achieve their goals. How is this complex, exactly?[/QUOTE] Stop trying to pointlessly simplify the issue, it doesn't help anyone and you just look like an uneducated mong.

[QUOTE=faze;32318486]I saw something very recently, in the last year of 25+ Muslim men marrying 12 year old girls. So, it's still happening. So is polygamy.[/QUOTE] Coincedentally, did you know the age of consent in the Vatican is twelve? The moar you know.

[QUOTE=Cone;32318508]Coincedentally, did you know the age of consent in the Vatican is twelve? The moar you know.[/QUOTE]That's disgusting.

[QUOTE=Mr.Haughty;32318506]Stop trying to pointlessly simplify the issue, it doesn't help anyone and you just look like an uneducated mong.[/QUOTE] You should probably stop trying to find so much explanations about a bunch of oriental rednecks trying to take over countries as well.

[QUOTE=Mr.Haughty;32318506]Stop trying to pointlessly simplify the issue, it doesn't help anyone and you just look like an uneducated mong.[/QUOTE] I agree with Ganerumo. [QUOTE=Ganerumo;32318504] Well then, tell us, if we're wrong.[/QUOTE] Yes, tell us.

[QUOTE=faze;32318512]That's disgusting.[/QUOTE] To be fair, it is a rather small city-state. There's probably only about fifty kids there at any time.

You are all racists, Why can't we pray on the street and hide our women in cloth so you can only see the eyes? :downs:

[QUOTE=Cone;32318529]To be fair, it is a rather small city-state. There's probably only about fifty kids there at any time.[/QUOTE]Still, 12 years old? That's fucking nasty.

[QUOTE=faze;32318486]I saw something very recently, in the last year of 25+ Muslim men marrying 12 year old girls. So, it's still happening. So is polygamy. [editline]16th September 2011[/editline] Shit, Muhammad, my bad.[/QUOTE] In the times when Muhammad was preaching the religion, the world was a fucked up place. Lots of people starving, lots of people killing, stealing, it was a very, very dangerous place to be. Although it is true that he married Aisha when she was 9 years old, the Quran EXPLICITLY states that any sexual activity before adult age is condemned. He didn't marry all of these women to fulfill a crazed sexual fantasy, it was so that he could provide for them all. The Quran is very clear on saying that if you cant provide an appropriate life for more than one wife then do not marry more than one wife; you should provide a good life for all of them equally. In a fucked up world like that, it was the best way to take care of her. After Muhammad passed away, Aisha was still a virgin; they had never actually done anything sexual ever. "This issue of her virginity was of great importance to those who supported Aisha's position in the debate of the succession to Muhammad. These supporters considered that as Muhammad's only virgin wife, Aisha was divinely intended for him, and therefore the most credible regarding the debate."

It's only strange because of our actual society. Physically, puberty hit girls when they are around 12, earlier than boys, so they can have kids faster, thus have more of them. I don't endorse pedophilia though, and I still think screwing 12 years old is pretty much something that belonged to prehistory. Also, for a certain amount of time Polygamy was also allowed and even encouraged because of wars which limited the amount of available men, thus obligating them to have multiple wives to repopulate after conflicts.

[QUOTE=Starship;32318531]You are all racists, Why can't we pray on the street and hide our women in cloth so you can only see the eyes? :downs:[/QUOTE] You'd best be being sarcastic, kid.