Paris ban on Muslim street prayers comes into effect - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318552]In the times when Muhammad was preaching the religion, the world was a fucked up place. Lots of people starving, lots of people killing, stealing, it was a very, very dangerous place to be. Although it is true that he married Aisha when she was 9 years old, the Quran EXPLICITLY states that any sexual activity before adult age is condemned. He didn't marry all of these women to fulfill a crazed sexual fantasy, it was so that he could provide for them all. The Quran is very clear on saying that if you cant provide an appropriate life for more than one wife then do not marry more than one wife; you should provide a good life for all of them equally. In a fucked up world like that, it was the best way to take care of her. After Muhammad passed away, Aisha was still a virgin; they had never actually done anything sexual ever. "This issue of her virginity was of great importance to those who supported Aisha's position in the debate of the succession to Muhammad. These supporters considered that as Muhammad's only virgin wife, Aisha was divinely intended for him, and therefore the most credible regarding the debate."[/QUOTE]Yeah, different times I suppose. He still had multiple [B]wives[/B] who were underage.

[QUOTE=Cone;32318561]You'd best be being sarcastic, kid.[/QUOTE] I live in sweden, which in 50 years will be 90% muslims.

[QUOTE=Starship;32318571]I live in sweden, which in 50 years will be 90% muslims.[/QUOTE]How do you figure that?

[QUOTE=faze;32318564]Yeah, different times I suppose. He still had multiple [B]wives[/B] who were underage.[/QUOTE] He didn't have sex with them though. [QUOTE=Starship;32318571]I live in sweden, which in 50 years will be 90% muslims.[/QUOTE] Presumably its because the people who believe this will emigrate.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;32318574]He didn't have sex with them though.[/QUOTE]So?

[QUOTE=Starship;32318531]You are all racists, Why can't we pray on the street and hide our women in cloth so you can only see the eyes? :downs:[/QUOTE] The Hijab is a respected choice of a Muslim woman. The idea behind it is to stay modest by not letting your own beauty change your personality or make you essentially full of yourself. Also, the hijab only requires that you wear loose clothing and cover your hair, wear long sleeves and long pants. the face, hands and feet can show just fine. Women who wear hijab are incredibly respected where I am from.

[QUOTE=faze;32318564]Yeah, different times I suppose. He still had multiple [B]wives[/B] who were underage.[/QUOTE] Wife means a different thing in this situation. It's less someone you love deeply and more someone you don't want out on the street to get raped, murdered, and pillaged.

Pedophilia is the act of having sex with a child, not marrying it. It hardly was a love relationship, more like caretaking.

[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318583]The Hijab is a respected choice of a Muslim woman. The idea behind it is to stay modest by not letting your own beauty change your personality or make you essentially full of yourself. Also, the hijab only requires that you wear loose clothing and cover your hair, wear long sleeves and long pants. the face, hands and feet can show just fine. Women who wear hijab are incredibly respected where I am from.[/QUOTE]Long sleeve shirts and pants in 120 degree heat? No thanks.

Praying is kind of unnecessary anyway

[QUOTE=faze;32318564]Yeah, different times I suppose. He still had multiple [B]wives[/B] who were underage.[/QUOTE] Wives who would otherwise be left in poverty. All he really did was give them a place to live and food/water. Its seen much more as an act of providing rather than an act of sexual intention.

This ban probably just is for prayers on the streets i suppose. I mean you should be able to do it on your own property.

[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318583]The Hijab is a respected choice of a Muslim woman. The idea behind it is to stay modest by not letting your own beauty change your personality or make you essentially full of yourself. Also, the hijab only requires that you wear loose clothing and cover your hair, wear long sleeves and long pants. the face, hands and feet can show just fine. Women who wear hijab are incredibly respected where I am from.[/QUOTE] In France they aren't. Mainly because the media picture women wearing hijab (the full one covering totally the body but the eyes) as being horribly beaten up by their husbands so they wear the thing.

[QUOTE=faze;32318593]Long sleeve shirts and pants in 120 degree heat? No thanks.[/QUOTE] That's why they have the loose clothing. And I'd imagine it's quite hard to get sun-burn in large clothes like that.

[QUOTE=sami-elite;32318597]This ban probably just is for prayers on the streets i suppose. I mean you should be able to do it on your own property.[/QUOTE] Of course you can, this is France not nazi germany And loose clothes are the best when it's hot outside

[QUOTE=faze;32318593]Long sleeve shirts and pants in 120 degree heat? No thanks.[/QUOTE] It doesn't let the skin be burned by sunlight, and the loose garments allow air in to cool the person.

[QUOTE=faze;32318593]Long sleeve shirts and pants in 120 degree heat? No thanks.[/QUOTE] Yeah, thats why they've made Abayas. Really loose, black dresses that are made of thin black fabric that wind can pretty much go through keeping them from uncomfort. Also, you don't have to wear them around other women, or around your immediate family and husbands. It's just men you have no real relation with.

[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318583]The Hijab is a respected choice of a Muslim woman. The idea behind it is to stay modest by not letting your own beauty change your personality or make you essentially full of yourself. Also, the hijab only requires that you wear loose clothing and cover your hair, wear long sleeves and long pants. the face, hands and feet can show just fine. Women who wear hijab are incredibly respected where I am from.[/QUOTE] Yeah it's good.. but instead of the hijab you could have some fine clothes that don't show too much skin either. And they wouldn't have to be loose black robes or what they have, just some normal (trendy?) jeans, jackets, boots, whatever? And for hot weather you can dress just fine too not too revealing

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32318604]In France they aren't. Mainly because the media picture women wearing hijab (the full one covering totally the body but the eyes) as being horribly beaten up by their husbands so they wear the thing.[/QUOTE] And that can be the case, but then you'd be going back to an extreme form of Islam that the majority do not follow.

[QUOTE=faze;32318593]Long sleeve shirts and pants in 120 degree heat? No thanks.[/QUOTE] it has pores,

[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318583]The Hijab is a respected choice of a Muslim woman. The idea behind it is to stay modest by not letting your own beauty change your personality or make you essentially full of yourself. Also, the hijab only requires that you wear loose clothing and cover your hair, wear long sleeves and long pants. the face, hands and feet can show just fine. Women who wear hijab are incredibly respected where I am from.[/QUOTE] Where I live, 40% of the women I see don't show anything but the eyes. Tell me; How is that beautiful? Oh and, My friend was together with a muslim girl (she was really nice , talkative and such) and her father didn't like that she stopped using her whateveryoucallitthatcoverseverythingbutherface when she started dating my friend, so the father and her brother threatened my friend and told him to stay away from her. He refused and the brother got his "gang" and beat him up. I do not have anything against muslims.

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;32318623]Yeah it's good.. but instead of the hijab you could have some fine clothes that don't show too much skin either. And they wouldn't have to be loose black robes or what they have, just some normal (trendy?) jeans, jackets, boots, whatever?[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's completely fine too; its just lots of women consider the Abaya much more comfortable because you can wear whatever you want under it and no one is going to see. Girls i know wear pajamas under it for comfort, sounds pretty awesome if you ask me.

[QUOTE=Starship;32318640]Tell me; How is that beautiful?[/QUOTE] Surprisingly people have differing views of beauty.

[QUOTE=faze;32318593]Long sleeve shirts and pants in 120 degree heat? No thanks.[/QUOTE] it has pores,and it's thin but still solid and untransparent. [editline]16th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=faze;32318593]Long sleeve shirts and pants in 120 degree heat? No thanks.[/QUOTE] it has pores,and it's thin but still solid and untransparent.

[QUOTE=Starship;32318640]Where I live, 40% of the women I see don't show anything but the eyes. Tell me; How is that beautiful? Oh and, My friend was together with a muslim girl (she was really nice , talkative and such) and her father didn't like that she stopped using her whateveryoucallitthatcoverseverythingbutherface when she started dating my friend, so the father and her brother threatened my friend and told him to stay away from her. He refused and the brother got his "gang" and beat him up. I do not have anything against muslims.[/QUOTE] Dating is usually frowned upon culturally, because pre-martial sex is a sin in Islam. What the 'gang' did was wrong and is not supported by the Islamic faith, but the father wasn't exactly out of line for not wanting his daughter to date.

It's still a good intention and quite a noble choice to decide not to let people be fooled by your beauty, so they only focus on who you are. Though it might as well give people the wish they could see who's under it (or they could just be an excuse to hide an ugly ass face :v:) Also, if Hijabs are good in Muslim culture, they are far from being just a choice in taliban ruled territory. If a woman doesn't wear it, her face is sprayed with ACID. In Africa, some tribes decide to live entirely naked, so there is nothing to envy or want to see that is normally forbidden as everything is shown.

[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318663]Dating is usually frowned upon culturally, because pre-martial sex is a sin in Islam. What the 'gang' did was wrong and is not supported by the Islamic faith, but the father wasn't exactly out of line for not wanting his daughter to date.[/QUOTE] Right, so she has no choice in what she wants to do? how is that not out of line?

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;32318667]It's still a good intention and quite a noble choice to decide not to let people be fooled by your beauty, so they only focus on who you are. Though it might as well give people the wish they could see who's under it (or they could just be an excuse to hide an ugly ass face :v:) Also, if Hijabs are good in Muslim culture, they are far from being just a choice in taliban ruled territory. If a woman doesn't wear it, her face is sprayed with ACID.[/QUOTE]I'd rather look at a nice ass in short shorts than a big black robe.

[QUOTE=Conspiracy;32318651]Yeah, that's completely fine too; its just lots of women consider the Abaya much more comfortable because you can wear whatever you want under it and no one is going to see. Girls i know wear pajamas under it for comfort, sounds pretty awesome if you ask me.[/QUOTE] Yeah I guess so. But I'd imagine the women growing bored of the same Abay(?) dress if they use it for years on end.

Wait, we've gone three whole pages without a shit-storm? Where am I? This can't be Facepunch!