• No charges for puppy-thrower: police
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[QUOTE=N0 WAR;25282481]I see Facepunch is changing its side in this case.[/QUOTE] I don't think FP never gave a fuck in the first place since it involved puppies and not kittens
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;25282427] i was actually pulling the 'you hypocrite' routine dumbass[/QUOTE] Are you really so stupid to compare a puppy drowning to an insect being stepped on? If you want to play an insect being equal to a puppy, then a puppy is equal to a human.
Duke Nukem: Let /b/ sort 'em out!
A government should only punish someone when they have harmed another person. If someone commits anything unethical but does not harm any person, then the community should treat the convict with contempt (refusing service at a store, declining job applications, etc.), and not the government.
[QUOTE=BlueChihuahua;25282614]Are you really so stupid to compare a puppy drowning to an insect being stepped on? If you want to play an insect being equal to a puppy, then a puppy is equal to a human.[/QUOTE] Not really, considering that the government is made up of humans and not puppies. Humans are set aside from the rest of the animals. [editline]09:27PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Snail562;25283441]A government should only punish someone when they have harmed another person. If someone commits anything unethical but does not harm any person, then the community should treat the convict with contempt (refusing service at a store, declining job applications, etc.), and not the government.[/QUOTE] If you violate another person's basic rights (life, property, etc.) you deserve to be punished. Otherwise, the government should not interfere.
[QUOTE=BlueChihuahua;25281660]What the fuck is wrong with you people?! You're brushing off her action completely as if she just jay-walked. I'm not going to say, 'beat her to death,' but this is a serious crime. When violence is involved, it becomes a serious crime. A line has been crossed.[/QUOTE] cry me a river build a bridge and throw a puppy off it [editline]11:30PM[/editline] [QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;25283513]If you violate another person's basic rights (life, property, etc.) you deserve to be punished. Otherwise, the government should not interfere.[/QUOTE] But to be serious, animal cruelty needs to be illegal. [editline]11:31PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Snail562;25283441]A government should only punish someone when they have harmed another person. If someone commits anything unethical but does not harm any person, then the community should treat the convict with contempt (refusing service at a store, declining job applications, etc.), and not the government.[/QUOTE] Did you just suggest that discriminatory hiring practices should be legal
[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25283571]But to be serious, animal cruelty needs to be illegal.[/QUOTE] Okay, but all animals have to equal. No discrimination. If you go outside and kill an ant or a bunny that was eating your lawn you have to face the charges.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;25279011]Look everyone I am the average Facepuncher: "A human died? Who gives a shit. What's that you say? KILLED PUPPIES? CUT THEIR DICK OFF AND BURN THEM ALIVE!" *SOME TIME LATER* "Facepunch cares too much when animals die I need to be super trendy and not give a shit then everyone will love me"[/QUOTE] There's a difference, people can make choices and defend themselves, this cunt threw defenseless puppies into a fucking river. At this point I assume you wouldn't give a fuck if I took your family pet and skinned it alive.
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;25283641]Okay, but all animals have to equal. No discrimination. If you go outside and kill an ant or a bunny that was eating your lawn you have to face the charges.[/QUOTE] Killing an animal isn't necessarily being cruel to it. I didn't say animal murder should be illegal. Killing someone's pet is different however, even someone as libertarian such as yourself should see that. It's already just as illegal to be cruel towards a wild animal as someone's pet anyways. If you shoot a dear but fail to kill it for example, and let it go, you'll get in massive shit.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25281707]Good. Such a fuss over some dogs.[/QUOTE] I don't give 2 shits about humanity anymore, half the planet is mindless apes.
[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25283686]Killing an animal isn't necessarily being cruel to it. I didn't say animal murder should be illegal. Killing someone's pet is different however, even someone as libertarian such as yourself should see that.[/QUOTE] I agree to that.
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;25283641]Okay, but all animals have to equal. No discrimination. If you go outside and kill an ant or a bunny that was eating your lawn you have to face the charges.[/QUOTE] Ants are defined is bug or insect, their nervous system is not complex enough for pain. This is an entirely different case for animals.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;25283698]I don't give 2 shits about humanity anymore, half the planet is mindless apes.[/QUOTE] Wow you're cool
[QUOTE=DireAvenger;25283730]Ants are defined is bug or insect, their nervous system is not complex enough for pain. This is an entirely different case for animals.[/QUOTE] I'm on the fence as to whether or not level of sentience should be taken into account but it's a good idea once the science in regards to understanding how insects and animals feel pain is more understood.
[QUOTE=DireAvenger;25283730]Ants are defined is bug or insect, their nervous system is not complex enough for pain. This is an entirely different case for animals.[/QUOTE] I am aware of this. But why does it matter if they can feel pain? They're still alive. They can still be abused.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;25283698]I don't give 2 shits about humanity anymore, half the planet is mindless apes.[/QUOTE] Probably coming from someone who only associates with the pizza man and on some occasions blizzard tech support.
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;25283761]I am aware of this. But why does it matter if they can feel pain? They're still alive. They can still be abused.[/QUOTE] What about trees then
[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25283890]What about trees then[/QUOTE] Tree cruelty!!!!11one This is why animal cruelty laws are stupid. Where do you draw the line?
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;25283513]If you violate another person's basic rights (life, property, etc.) you deserve to be punished. Otherwise, the government should not interfere.[/QUOTE] Way to reiterate what I said.
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;25283935]Tree cruelty!!!!11one This is why animal cruelty laws are stupid. Where do you draw the line?[/QUOTE] At one sentience unit I made that scale up just now, 1su = the sentience of something slightly more sentient than a hamster
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;25283935]Tree cruelty!!!!11one This is why animal cruelty laws are stupid. Where do you draw the line?[/QUOTE] Animal rights activists shift the line where they see fit. Auto merge broke. [QUOTE=BANNED USER;25283698]I don't give 2 shits about humanity anymore, half the planet is mindless apes.[/QUOTE] :fuckyou: [QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25283987]...I'm willing to say [i]I don't know[/i] (holy shit never seen that before on Facepunch huh).[/QUOTE] I don't think I have either...
No nervous system + No brain = CAN'T FEEL SHIT
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;25283963]No nervous system + No brain = CAN'T FEEL SHIT[/QUOTE] He has a point about bugs and shit though. This is one of those places where I'm willing to say [i]I don't know[/i] (holy shit never seen that before on Facepunch huh).
Bugs and shit probably CAN feel pain seeing how they do react to external stimuli etc. They can react and feel with antennae. So could they feel pain using the same receptors? But do bugs feel pain? Good question.
do i feel pain
It's a crime because if it wasn't, people would be out hunting cats, dogs, etc. [editline]04:59PM[/editline] Like they do in Asia, but in Asia, people don't do it as much, so it's OK.
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;25282427]lol good one but my sister is a model [editline]08:06PM[/editline] i was actually pulling the 'you hypocrite' routine dumbass[/QUOTE] So you basically agree, that puppies being thrown into a river is okay, and you would endorse it? I mean, that's the idea you're getting across to me. [editline]06:58AM[/editline] [QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;25283738]Wow you're cool[/QUOTE] :irony:
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;25278790]They're just fucking puppies[/QUOTE] Let's throw you in a pool of lava. You're just SomeRandomGuy18.
I think the reason I hate when shit like this happens is because animals barely ever wrong you. Their also defenseless and innocent. But this is also built up by people abusing me and therefore thinking lower of the average human.
[QUOTE=Badunkadunk;25278972]Why does it matter? They're puppies, there's millions of them- would you rather they be put in an animal control center and possibly put to sleep because there's already too many pets for everyone to take care of? I'm pretty sure she was scared of being punished, and has enough of an imagination to realize she may not be this lucky next time, drop it and stop caring.[/QUOTE] Well, yeah, I'd prefer that You now, at least being put to sleep isn't like drowning or anything. She haven't been punished but I think (hope) she's been scared enough to not do this kind of things again.
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