Mozilla CEO threatens to fire person responsible for anonymous hate speech on Reddit - Polidicks

[QUOTE=hexpunK;48569419]The fact they were able to work out who the fuck this was just based on them saying "yeah I work at Mozilla" leads me to believe that this particular person has been a pain in their ass beforehand. [/QUOTE] They have no idea who it is though.

I might tangentially agree with the guy but that sort of talk about your coworkers is uncalled for. [editline]29th August 2015[/editline] Though I'm not so sure I'd call it hate speech.

[QUOTE=Oberleutnant;48569778]They have no idea who it is though.[/QUOTE] Wait...you're right I misread something earlier and that stuck for some reason.

I don't actually really mind this, provided the "other side" of the debate is handled the same way. It isn't, though. Start firing people who start internal shitflinging while at the same time firing crybabies who can't keep internal problems internal - or, you could try hiring managers who can actually deal with issues and make workers less worried to express their concerns with overly confrontational co-workers internally. I'm assuming there weren't a lot of people internally saying "this person is causing problems for others" to their superiors out of fear. It's the same in a lot of workplaces. Either one of these solutions is fine, but the status quo of letting disruptive individuals with authoritarian mindsets run roughshod while punishing people who take exception with it - which I know is a real thing - is how you run your company into the ground.

Can they even do that legally? Isn't Freedom of speech protected?

[QUOTE=Uzbekistan;48566442]If you go online and say nasty things about your co-workers, you're going to get fired, is that not a given?[/QUOTE] No, of course not, this is just a result of the social justice warrior bullies suppressing his freedom of speech, as has been highlighted in this thread numerous times already. Facepunch has become a parody of itself [editline]29th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;48570926]Can they even do that legally? Isn't Freedom of speech protected?[/QUOTE] You have the freedom to insult your coworkers all you want, your boss also has the freedom to fire you for it.

[QUOTE=s0beit;48570758]I don't actually really mind this, provided the "other side" of the debate is handled the same way. It isn't, though. Start firing people who start internal shitflinging while at the same time firing crybabies who can't keep internal problems internal - or, you could try hiring managers who can actually deal with issues and make workers less worried to express their concerns with overly confrontational co-workers internally. I'm assuming there weren't a lot of people internally saying "this person is causing problems for others" to their superiors out of fear. It's the same in a lot of workplaces. Either one of these solutions is fine, but the status quo of letting disruptive individuals with authoritarian mindsets run roughshod while punishing people who take exception with it - which I know is a real thing - is how you run your company into the ground.[/QUOTE] Quite the dilemma there - in their attempt to have an "all inclusive" workplace, you can't really report the egotistical self-righteous cunts who want to turn the workplace into a daycare for white knights and SJWs, or else *you* will be labeled as a hater and a shitlord. They have the problem, not us. This sketch from Key and Peele illustrates my point. [hd]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3h6es6zh1c[/hd]

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;48566371]SH is effectively Mass Debate now though. No more ratings and the same dramatic arguments. I sorta miss the ratings because they provided a filter for people afraid of box ratings. Also, really? The CEO is going to fire someone for making a very harsh reality come to light? Doesn't that prove the point of the person supposedly making hate speech?[/QUOTE] Are you kidding? The removal of ratings may have made pun postings less magnified, but now I can post as a conservative without getting boxed. It's great.

[QUOTE=BFG9000;48571003]Are you kidding? The removal of ratings may have made pun postings less magnified, but now I can post as a conservative without getting boxed. It's great.[/QUOTE] It forces people to have conversation instead of drive by boxing. I like it.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;48570929]No, of course not, this is just a result of the social justice warrior bullies suppressing his freedom of speech, as has been highlighted in this thread numerous times already. Facepunch has become a parody of itself[/QUOTE] Reading things into what people have said and assuming Facepunch Hivemind. Glorious posting as usual. What is the point you guys are making? That his extremely vague post about ideologues in his company is somehow hate speech? That Mozilla's CEO is in the right to chase down and publically humiliate an employee for disagreeing with company practices? Would you also defend a company firing someone for publically highlighting the company's support of pro-life/abstinence-only beliefs? Or is that somehow bad while Mozilla is in the right?

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;48576401]Reading things into what people have said and assuming Facepunch Hivemind. Glorious posting as usual. What is the point you guys are making? That his extremely vague post about ideologues in his company is somehow hate speech? That Mozilla's CEO is in the right to chase down and publically humiliate an employee for disagreeing with company practices? Would you also defend a company firing someone for publically highlighting the company's support of pro-life/abstinence-only beliefs? Or is that somehow bad while Mozilla is in the right?[/QUOTE] Yeah, hatefully stereotyping his female co-workers and saying that the industry will be better when they're gone is totally the sort of non-toxic work environment that Mozilla is looking for, especially when women are underrepresented in FLOSS work even more so than the private software sector. Also I don't know Mozilla's social media policy but talking shit about your co-workers while representing your company (i.e. while saying "i work for Mozilla" like this guy did) is usually an instant HR referral at best, and a canning at worst.

[QUOTE=FlakAttack;48576401]Reading things into what people have said and assuming Facepunch Hivemind. Glorious posting as usual.What is the point you guys are making? That his extremely vague post about ideologues in his company is somehow hate speech? That Mozilla's CEO is in the right to chase down and publically humiliate an employee for disagreeing with company practices?Would you also defend a company firing someone for publically highlighting the company's support of pro-life/abstinence-only beliefs? Or is that somehow bad while Mozilla is in the right?[/QUOTE] This is all under the assumption that this guy's narrative of "evil feminazi SJWs infiltrating Mozilla and the tech industry" has any sort of credibility to it, when it's far more likely he's just jumping on the internet bandwagon. And if he did have a serious problem with his work environment he should have brought it to someone in charge at his company, not reddit.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;48570929]No, of course not, this is just a result of the social justice warrior bullies suppressing his freedom of speech, as has been highlighted in this thread numerous times already. Facepunch has become a parody of itself [/QUOTE] Come on Zeke, why does all your ranting as of late include whining about Facepunch being a hivemind just because you don't agree with the opinion some other posters have? Seriously, it seems that you pull that card often enough to make for a pretty liver-damaging drinking game if we had to take a shot everytime you put that up. Also, I don't really get why those two Reddit posts qualify as hate speech. Sure, it might not be very nice to say, but seriously, it just seems like a normal 'Good riddance' post after a colleague who was shitting up the workspace in general got sacked.

[QUOTE=Uzbekistan;48566442]If you go online and say nasty things about your co-workers, you're going to get fired, is that not a given?[/QUOTE] I think it's pretty standard for this to happen. You're making other people unwelcome and paranoid by talking shit about them in a public forum - especially anonymously.

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;48576460]This is all under the assumption that this guy's narrative of "evil feminazi SJWs infiltrating Mozilla and the tech industry" has any sort of credibility to it, when it's far more likely he's just jumping on the internet bandwagon. And if he did have a serious problem with his work environment he should have brought it to someone in charge at his company, not reddit.[/QUOTE] Other other thing: There hasn't been any proof that dude is actually working for Mozilla, so him being full of shit and just posting stuff to stir up outrage at SJWs, playing the "SJWs are destroying the tech industry with feminism" narrative is entirely a possibility. And if you ask me a pretty distinct possibility, seeing as his only other post is him complaining on /r/mensrights about Google trying to raise female attendance at Google I/O

You can also complain in a professional, productive way. You can bring up issues you have in the workplace and collaborate to take care of those problems. And if you can't? Well, your complaint sucks and doesn't matter.

The only reason people sympathize with this guy is because he used the "F" word.

[QUOTE=CapellanCitizen;48576606]Other other thing: There hasn't been any proof that dude is actually working for Mozilla, so him being full of shit and just posting stuff to stir up outrage at SJWs, playing the "SJWs are destroying the tech industry with feminism" narrative is entirely a possibility. And if you ask me a pretty distinct possibility, seeing as his only other post is him complaining on /r/mensrights about Google trying to raise female attendance at Google I/O[/QUOTE] Which if true speaks volumes more about how mismanaged and untrusting the Mozilla management team is.

[QUOTE=Swilly;48577176]Which if true speaks volumes more about how mismanaged and untrusting the Mozilla management team is.[/QUOTE] It doesn't? Re-iterating their social media policy in a case like this (something that's apparently important enough to be an incredibly minor news story) is par for the course.