Rejection of experts spreads from Brexit to climate change with 'Clexit' - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Source;50852066]Our planet is well and truly fucked.[/QUOTE] The planet is fine, the people are fucked /George Carlin.

[QUOTE=Morgen;50850265]:what:[/QUOTE] Well, technically he's right. A higher amount of carbon dioxide (to some extent) over a longer period of time will cause photosynthesis to be more efficient, for a variety of flora.

Because it's definitely worth causing the total annihilation of the human race to make a couple extra cents of profit. Remember, whoever has the highest score at the end wins!

Yeah this is blatant anti-intellectualism. Best thing we can hope for is to drag these worthless fucks out of their comfort zones and give them a crack over the skull.

Why is this 'xexit' trend so popular, like Brexit worked out so well? Second time's the charm? But I'm glad to see everyone but them is on the same page on this.

I would say this stands no chance but after the Brexit result I don't have faith in the British people to think straight. I miss the days when I could mock other countries, safe in the belief that British people were the best.

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50853088]I would say this stands no chance but after the Brexit result I don't have faith in the British people to think straight. I miss the days when I could mock other countries, safe in the belief that British people were the best.[/QUOTE] blimey turns out everyone are right wankers

This genuinely has to be one of the stupidest things I've heard lately. Okay, let's say the population is stupid enough to let something like this pass, what are you gonna do? Kick out the climate changes from your house? They ain't going away, you can't just 'exit' that. There's so much mind-bogling stuff in this article, I just don't know if I should take it seriously or not.

i'm surprised we haven't seen a rise in eco-terrorism as well as assassination attempts

[QUOTE=ironman17;50850279]I almost wish that this kind of insistent ignorance was actually illegal, like if climate-change deniers were punished like folks who deny the Holocaust ever happened. But hey, we can at least hope that when most of the coastal cities are flooded, displacing millions of people to migrate further inland, that the Big Oil/Coal folks are dragged from their mansions, or at least forced to barricade themselves from furious mobs led by some guy in a gas mask who sounds like Deckard Cain.[/QUOTE] When that shit happens we can't even feel good about ourselves by going "told you so", it'll just be sad

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;50850849]I'm honestly wondering at this point why haven't the portion of the british population who have half a brain just give power back to the royal family to stop this clusterfuck mess of politics.[/QUOTE] I know you're not serious but the royal family aren't any better than the morons we have governing us right now. "Hey so there are dumbfucks everywhere who want to do these things that are clearly only beneficial to corporate interests, and briefly at that. Do you think we should be campaigning for both better government as well as a functioning opposition in Parliament?" "Nah just hand over all the power to the literal unelected ruling class we only keep around for tourism, because the media makes them seem like 'people' rather than glorified museum pieces" Again, I know you're joking, but this line of thinking is offensive and wrong and I just can't trust this country not to want a 'Parlexit' because thinking for yourselves and getting politically active is too much work and people like meme solutions. It's a bit like if I'd said "lol seriously wondering why the Americans with half a brain aren't instituting hereditory rule for the Clintons, it'd really clear up this clusterfuck of an election season for once and for all"

[QUOTE=ironman17;50850279]I almost wish that this kind of insistent ignorance was actually illegal, like if climate-change deniers were punished like folks who deny the Holocaust ever happened. But hey, we can at least hope that when most of the coastal cities are flooded, displacing millions of people to migrate further inland, that the Big Oil/Coal folks are dragged from their mansions, or at least forced to barricade themselves from furious mobs led by some guy in a gas mask who sounds like Deckard Cain.[/QUOTE] Please stop unironically advocating thoughtcrime People should never be arrested for saying the "wrong" opinion, especially if it doesn't even have anything to do with your fee fees

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;50853071]Why is this 'xexit' trend so popular, like Brexit worked out so well? Second time's the charm? But I'm glad to see everyone but them is on the same page on this.[/QUOTE] I hope history will look back and see how retarded all "x-exit" movements are. [editline]9th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Seerus;50853900]Please stop unironically advocating thoughtcrime People should never be arrested for saying the "wrong" opinion, especially if it doesn't even have anything to do with your fee fees[/QUOTE] At the very least, the top execs and accomplices in big oil covering up climate change results should have a massive limelight put on them to highlight the dangerous bullshit they perpetuated. Also, you know, politicians should stop receiving corporate bribes in the name of lobbying.

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;50852486]Because it's definitely worth causing the total annihilation of the human race to make a couple extra cents of profit. Remember, whoever has the highest score at the end wins![/QUOTE] lol that sounds like an awesome idea for a game

[QUOTE=Seerus;50853900]Please stop unironically advocating thoughtcrime People should never be arrested for saying the "wrong" opinion, especially if it doesn't even have anything to do with your fee fees[/QUOTE] its not thoughtcrime if its a course of policies carefully constructed to form a narrative counter to the publics best interest that has caused injury death and is now totally irreversable all in the name of profit people revile the nazis for trying to create a perfect race, i hope people do revile the likes of koch and exxon for stalling climate change action for several decades until its too late

[QUOTE=elevate;50854087]lol that sounds like an awesome idea for a game[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.molleindustria.org/en/oiligarchy/[/url]

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;50850897]That's it, the UK has gone senile, we need to get the UK into a home it can't break out of.[/QUOTE] I think it's time to deport the UK to Australia

I don't think Clexit is a real thing. :v: I'm pretty sure it's just a group of people trying to shift support away from Brexit by making it look inane.

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50853088]I would say this stands no chance but after the Brexit result I don't have faith in the British people to think straight. I miss the days when I could mock other countries, safe in the belief that British people were the best.[/QUOTE] Yeah but it's only a minority.

[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50854463]Yeah but it's only a minority.[/QUOTE] 52% voting for brexit (despite having no idea what they were actually voting for apparently) would make them a majority, of the electorate at least.

[QUOTE=Seerus;50853900]Please stop unironically advocating thoughtcrime People should never be arrested for saying the "wrong" opinion, especially if it doesn't even have anything to do with your fee fees[/QUOTE] This doesn't really have much to do with opinions though. Climate change is a well established fact by now

[QUOTE=gokiyono;50854567]This doesn't really have much to do with opinions though. Climate change is a well established fact by now[/QUOTE] Fact or not, denying it should not be a crime and it's stupidly authoritarian to make it one.

I hold climate change denial to the same level as Holocaust denial. once you know enough about climate change and how it works, its easy to argue against them and completely destroy their arguments, simply by pointing out the many fallacies they often commit (like confusing weather for climate, or "this one highly specific place didnt get warmer, therefore all of global warming is a farce" and so on. the problem is that even if you prove to them that they are wrong, and they themselves understand it, they will continue to refuse to accept global warming, out of sheer spite and egotistical levels of pride.

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50854519]52% voting for brexit (despite having no idea what they were actually voting for apparently) would make them a majority, of the electorate at least.[/QUOTE] Wow are we seriously suggesting some kind of hivemind of brexit supporters that are now crexit supporters then? The thread title also suggests this. Some members seem to be wallowing in some kind of Brexit butt madness. I don't think there is any real connection between the 2 tbh.

[QUOTE=da space core;50854615]I hold climate change denial to the same level as Holocaust denial. once you know enough about climate change and how it works, its easy to argue against them and completely destroy their arguments, simply by pointing out the many fallacies they often commit (like confusing weather for climate, or "this one highly specific place didnt get warmer, therefore all of global warming is a farce" and so on. the problem is that even if you prove to them that they are wrong, and they themselves understand it, they will continue to refuse to accept global warming, out of sheer spite and egotistical levels of pride.[/QUOTE] Convincing people is one thing, getting them to act is another. If you convince someone it's real, good luck getting them to actually do anything about it.

[QUOTE] I hold climate change denial to the same level as Holocaust denial. [/QUOTE] Hopefully you are on your own with that.

[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50854633]Wow are we seriously suggesting some kind of hivemind of brexit supporters that are now crexit supporters then? The thread title also suggests this. Some members seem to be wallowing in some kind of Brexit butt madness. I don't think there is any real connection between the 2 tbh.[/QUOTE] I don't have any polling statistics on hand but I'm pretty sure the overlap between the two groups is fairly large.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50854614]Fact or not, denying it should not be a crime and it's stupidly authoritarian to make it one.[/QUOTE] The problem is that the climate is probably one of the most important things in our everday lives. Now I'm not saying that it should be like that for ordinary people, what I am saying is that big cooporations and things like Clexit shouldn't exist.

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;50854685]I don't have any polling statistics on hand but I'm pretty sure the overlap between the two groups is fairly large.[/QUOTE] I can only imagine the amount of flaming if this statement took the opposite stance. [editline]9th August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=gokiyono;50854700]The problem is that the climate is probably one of the most important things in our everday lives. Now I'm not saying that it should be like that for ordinary people, what I am saying is that big cooporations and things like Clexit shouldn't exist.[/QUOTE] I don't think "clexit" will really garner much support.

[QUOTE=gokiyono;50854567]This doesn't really have much to do with opinions though. Climate change is a well established fact by now[/QUOTE] Even if it is fact, people still try to spin it as opinion. Having the 'opposition' be composed of provable facts undermines the ideology they need to rationalize, so turning the facts into opinions is the only possible way around it. The media is especially guilty of promoting this with their obsession of turning everything into a controversy that has two equivalent sides to it.