Kim Jong-Un tells his troops to prepare for "all-out war"
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[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39878918]They've gone further than this before.[/QUOTE]
A few shells into a village doesn't count and allegedly sinking a ship doesn't count. The Korean war does count, and they've ended that armistice by their own hand.
[QUOTE=faze;39878990]A few shells into a village doesn't count and allegedly sinking a ship doesn't count. The Korean war does count, and they've ended that armistice by their own hand.[/QUOTE]
They also had skirmishes in the 1960s and "cancelled" the armistice before.
Hay, wasn't sobotnik the guy who said he's gonna eat his hair if NK start war or something
[QUOTE=WhyNott;39879093]Hay, wasn't sobotnik the guy who said he's gonna eat his hair if NK start war or something[/QUOTE]
Yes :v:
[QUOTE=WhyNott;39879093]Hay, wasn't sobotnik the guy who said he's gonna eat his hair if NK start war or something[/QUOTE]
He better prepares the camera
I really hope nothing will happen, I don't want my brother to be drafted ;c
Edit: Wait I am retarded I didn't mean don't hope, I meant I hope nothing happens D:
[QUOTE=Cinnamonbun;39879297]I really don't hope nothing will happen, I don't want my brother to be drafted ;c[/QUOTE]
Double negative, your hopes are in vain.
[QUOTE=overpain;39878628]Yes because army is mobilized for nothing.
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I think it's funny that you say they are incompetent, when information ready on the internet tells us otherwise:
[quote=http://www.iiss.org/publications/strategic-dossiers/north-korean-dossier/north-koreas-weapons-programmes-a-net-asses/the-conventional-military-balance-on-the-kore/]
[b]South Korean military capabilities[/b]
South Korea’s armed forces comprise approximately 686,000 active-duty troops and 4.5m reservists. Its active ground forces are about half the size of North Korea’s in terms of personnel, major equipment holdings and force structure, but its equipment is superior. South Korea’s air and naval forces are comparable in size to North Korea’s, and they possess much more modern and sophisticated equipment. Overall, South Korea’s armed forces have become one of the world’s more capable militaries and present a formidable forward defence against any possible attack by North Korea.
As measured by static equipment indices, South Korea’s conventional forces would appear superior to North Korea’s. When morale, training, equipment maintenance, logistics, and reconnaissance and communications capabilities are factored in, this qualitative advantage increases. In addition, if North Korea invaded the country, South Korean forces would have the advantage of fighting from prepared defensive positions. Therefore, the Pentagon’s official current assessment of the Korean military balance suggests that, due to qualitative advantages, the South Korean–US combined force capabilities are superior to those of North Korea.
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In recent years, with the steady degradation of North Korean forces and improvements in South Korean military capabilities, some experts believe that the prospect of a successful North Korean attack to capture Seoul and reunify the Peninsula through force has diminished. In this analysis, South Korea and US forces deployed along the DMZ and around Seoul would stand a good chance of halting or at least severely delaying a North Korean offensive. As a war progressed, North Korean forces would become increasingly vulnerable to US reinforcements, and to attack by precision munitions. Their supply lines would be disrupted by allied artillery and air attacks – which would interdict reinforcement and re-supply along predictable axes of advance.
In addition, South Korean defences are well*prepared, and the country’s armed forces are qualitatively superior (while having comparable firepower to those of North Korea). With most of the
South Korean army deployed across a 250km front (in a dense force-to-space ratio of about one division per 10km), invading forces operating in a hostile air environment would find it hard to penetrate such defences, particularly across terrain that is largely unsuitable for the movement of armour. The natural obstacles of rivers and marshes, combined with man*made barriers, mines, and bridge demolitions, would impede further movement and channel North Korean forces into killing zones.
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Nevertheless, Special Forces might be able to cause serious disruption – including through the possible delivery of chemical or biological agents – in cities and rearguard military areas.
Finally, North Korea’s economic decline continues to erode the relative effectiveness and readiness of its forces. Despite the regime’s ‘military first’ policy, North Korea cannot afford to significantly modernise its ageing conventional forces – or even afford the levels of maintenance, refurbishment, and training necessary to maintain high readiness. In conclusion, North Korea is capable of inflicting widespread damage on South Korea in the early days of any conflict, but there is considerable doubt about the ability of North Korea’s conventional forces to sustain offensive military operations and resist the counter-attacks of a technologically superior adversary with better trained forces. Therefore, according to the Commander of US Forces in Korea, General Schwartz, ‘an attack scenario appears unlikely at this time because North Korea clearly knows that its regime would ultimately be destroyed as a result of any attack.’
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The combination of North Korea’s long economic decline and enhanced US and South Korean military capabilities has diminshed the threat of a North Korean invasion of South Korea. Nonetheless, North Korea retains the ability to inflict heavy casualties and collateral damage, largely through the use of massed artillery. In effect, Pyongyang has more of a threat to devastate Seoul than to seize and hold it. North Korea’s conventional threat is also sufficient to make an allied pre-emptive invasion to overthrow the North Korean regime a highly unattractive option. In theory, US forces could carry out pre-emptive attacks to destroy known North Korean nuclear facilities and missile emplacements, but such attacks could provoke North Korean retaliation and trigger a general conflict.[/quote]
Considering that the US and South Korean forces are more than likely already aware of this, and probably much more, I'd say they have a pretty good chance. The North's only real threat is the mass artillery, which they would have to roll into position first.
[QUOTE=Dr. Ethan Asia;39846216]The US has quite a substantial economy, the likes of which South Korea doesn't have.[/QUOTE]
Not really. SK is a small nation and yet they have 1/7th of our economy.
[editline]11th March 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Teh Soviet;39846401]Going to post this again:
North Korea is not going to be an easy country to beat, stop shitting on them. They have one of the largest militaries in the word. They have over A MILLION active military personnel, and are capable of conscripting six more million whenever shit goes south. They have stockpiles and stockpiles of tanks and artillery, the latter of which is aimed at Seoul ( So, in the end, the capital of South Korea WILL be blown to smithereens, many will die, and it will take years to repair and rebuild. ) They also have something like twenty nuclear silos, and we know they can shoot at least as far as Japan, meaning they can at will destroy South Korea. We don't know if those warheads can be intercepted in such a short distance.
Secondly, the North Korean military strategy and regime and just about everything is designed to counter the United States. They KNOW they have crappier equipment, and so they have designed tactics to circumvent that. Their propaganda statues are positioned at main roads to be destroyed and used as road blocks, they have bomb shelters in their apartment building, on and so forth. USA can't just NUKE them, nobody would let them, they would be killing countless of millions of innocent oppressed people. As for air superiority, sure, but - . . . Technology doesn't win in the air all the time, either. Serbia shot down supposedly 'invisible' American spy plains with old Russian equipment, probably as old or older than what North Korea has.
In finality, that'd be the bloodiest, cruellest war since WW2, and none of you should be looking forward to it. Millions will die.[/QUOTE]
They shot down one and that was because it was a fluke of luck. Literally 1 out of over 10000 missiles.
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