Bobby Kotick interviewed, lies out his fucking ass
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You're all just jealous that he got rich off of trolling.
I don't get who he is or what he's done. I saw the post "explaining" what he did, but that isn't very reliable(it's obvious the dude hates Kotick).
However, whether he is the devil, or whether he is really a good person, his story is intriguing. At the very least he is a good story teller(as is the reporter), I was drawn in from the beginning.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;22624374]I don't get who he is or what he's done.[/QUOTE]
he was the chief executive officer for activision during the time of the "Great Betrayal" where basically a lot of nerds shit out blood because MW2 didn't have dedicated servers
i guess you just need something to complain about and kotick stuck out
[QUOTE=Exploits;22624148]No, it isn't. And yeah, honestly, I don't like it. When a guy makes a bunch of half-assed games that're nothing but a cheap andrenaline rush and tries to pass it off as a Mona Lisa (Which you need to purchase small chunks off for additional installments of $15,99!), then he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Any company can make a game with lots of shooting and loud noises and explosions, it isn't a complex matter. He does it better than anyone else, but still has the tact to claim he's advancing the 'games as art' agenda? Hell no.[/QUOTE]
He makes a cheap half assed game that makes millions of dollars. Excellent logic. :downs:
He makes games people want to play, people want to pay for the DLC. If you don't like it don't buy it. If it truly was a pile of shit Activision would be bankrupt.
[QUOTE=ManningQB18;22624181]We aren't arguing whether people have bought it. People are arguing that it is is about as polished as the dirt on my shoe, and, while it can be fun, isn't worth $60 like the rest of the video games in the world are.[/QUOTE]
It is worth $60 though. An item's value is whatever the consumer will pay for it, and MW2 sells a shitload.
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[QUOTE=thisispain;22624410]he was the chief executive officer for activision during the time of the "Great Betrayal" where basically a lot of nerds shit out blood because MW2 didn't have dedicated servers
i guess you just need something to complain about and kotick stuck out[/QUOTE]
I get that he's the executive of Activision, I just didn't know why people hate him. I guess I understand now.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;22624428]He makes a cheap half assed game that makes millions of dollars. Excellent logic. :downs:
He makes games people want to play, people want to pay for the DLC. If you don't like it don't buy it. If it truly was a pile of shit Activision would be bankrupt.
It is worth $60 though. An item's value is whatever the consumer will pay for it, and MW2 sells a shitload.[/QUOTE]
if people don't like the game then fine, i don't see why there needs to be a thread every week about how you have to cut off some random dudes head
it's like a bad breakup, where you just see the bastard wallow in self-pity and it's like, jeez dude it's been a year get over it
I want to dislike him for the things he's said in the past, but this interview allowed me to see things from his eyes. Walk in his shoes for a bit, etc.
Maybe he isn't so bad?
[QUOTE=DanTehMan;22624579]I want to dislike him for the things he's said in the past[/QUOTE]
oh like what
"hi i'm bobby kotick and i fucked your mom, true story"
[QUOTE=superadamwo;22624000]You guys are so narrow minded it is unbelievable.
He didn't "fuck up" Modern Warfare 2, it's the highest selling video game in history and most people love it. The map pack prices are a little dumb but people were still willing to buy them in droves. World of Warcraft continues to be a popular game and tons of people still play it. All this "hate" for him is really ungrounded: he's running a business to make money, and nothing he's done so far as failed. Shut the fuck up.[/QUOTE]
You have to work a lot harder to defend him seriously than just make fun of him so I applaud you on your... something.
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[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;22624364]You're all just jealous that he got rich off of trolling.[/QUOTE]
Glenn Beck did it way better.
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[QUOTE=thisispain;22624066]yeah it is
just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that the entire world should be damned for it[/QUOTE]
Yeah but he doesn't deserve this kind of praise at all he's a greedy boss who got rich, that's it. He isn't some crazy success story that makes him stand out from all of the other greedy rich people in the world.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;22624374]I don't get who he is or what he's done. I saw the post "explaining" what he did, but that isn't very reliable(it's obvious the dude hates Kotick).
However, whether he is the devil, or whether he is really a good person, his story is intriguing. At the very least he is a good story teller(as is the reporter), I was drawn in from the beginning.[/QUOTE]
"We have a real culture of thrift. ... The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks that we brought into Activision 10 years ago was to take all the fun out making video games. I think we've definitely been able to instill in the culture the skepticism and pessimism and fear that you should have in an economy like we're in today. And so, generally while people talk about the recession, we are pretty good at keeping people focused on the deep depression. And I think that, as a result, you have people that are very mindful of their costs. They are mindful of the value they have to deliver."
Haha, seeing people defend people like this cunt is pretty funny. Even if the developers themselves aren't corrupted by money, kotick keeps breathing down their necks to increase profit decrease and development time, this kind of pressure on your devs doesn't stay hidden from the public for long (see: IW employees walking out). Keep supporting shitty companies like Activision and EA who will in time destroy every franchise (EA: Command and Conquer, Red Alert, Battlefield series, The Sims, etc; Activision: World of Warcraft, Guitar Hero, etc) with their terrible ideas. When people with business degrees and little to no experience of what the gaming community wants make the decisions and then the games turn into shit and even shittier with every sequel. They release 30 sequels before they are done raping the corpse of the series, while releasing 10 shitty DLC packs they will charge you incredibly inproportional amounts of money for (development time <<<<<<<<<<<<<< cost). To appreciate how truly bad activision and EA are (they aren't the only ones going down this road) look to a company like Valve, who release tons of free content, work with the community, open source a large portion of the source code to embrace the modders, offer lots of bugfixes/content well after the release date (look at TF2, I haven't paid for 1 DLC since it's release 3 years ago, and they are still churning out sales and plenty of profit). Activision needs to change their business model, and soon. The bulk of their sales (of MW2; MW1 was a great game.) are to idiots who play xbox live and are the same idiots playing Halo sequel after sequel. There is no justification for exploiting the gaming community because they can. End rant.
I don't see what's so hard to understand, a game as popular as Modern Warfare 2 setting new pricing standards (like the ridiculous DLC) is going to hurt gaming in the very near future; taking control away from the player, charging them more, and giving them less... is that really the mantra you guys want to see followed?
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;22625079]I don't see what's so hard to understand, a game as popular as Modern Warfare 2 setting new pricing standards (like the ridiculous DLC) is going to hurt gaming in the very near future; taking control away from the player, charging them more, and giving them less... is that really the mantra you guys want to see followed?[/QUOTE]
Apparently thisispain and others think just because you don't like certain features of a game or lack there of the company should be burned down. This is not the case at all, the just genuinely need to return to what gamers want at reasonable pricing models.
[QUOTE=bobste;22624202]the difference between WoW and this is that WoW is constantly updated with free content while with mw2 you have to pay $15 to play 3 new maps.[/QUOTE]
Both games are owned by Activision, since they merged with Blizzard.
I don't like MW2 because I'm terrible at it but this is not what that's about. It's that Kotick is just proving that he is a giant douche in this article.
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625057]Haha, seeing people defend people like this cunt is pretty funny.[/QUOTE]
keep it to yourself, it'll be more funny
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625057]Even if the developers themselves aren't corrupted by money[/QUOTE]
corrupted by money ahhahahah
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625057]kotick keeps breathing down their necks to increase profit decrease and development time, this kind of pressure on your devs doesn't stay hidden from the public for long (see: IW employees walking out).[/QUOTE]
i like how you pretend to know what is going on
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625057]Keep supporting shitty companies like Activision and EA who will in time destroy every franchise (EA: Command and Conquer, Red Alert, Battlefield series, The Sims, etc; Activision: World of Warcraft, Guitar Hero, etc) with their terrible ideas.[/QUOTE]
ok
CnC had to die eventually, battlefield is doing fine, sims 3 is awesome, world of warcraft has only become better, guitar hero is getting more with each release you don't have any argument
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625057]When people with business degrees and little to no experience of what the gaming community wants[/QUOTE]
but the gaming community does want guitar hero and modern warfare two
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625057]make the decisions and then the games turn into shit and even shittier with every sequel.[/QUOTE]
yeah in your opinion
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625057]The bulk of their sales (of MW2; MW1 was a great game.) are to idiots who play xbox live and are the same idiots playing Halo sequel after sequel.[/QUOTE]
fucking whatever dude if you need to call people who play games idiots to make yourself feel better that's like your problem
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[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625114] This is not the case at all, the just genuinely need to return to what gamers want at reasonable pricing models.[/QUOTE]
[b] if gamers don't want mw2, why is it selling by the droves?[/b]
case in point, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about
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[QUOTE=FlakAttack;22625079]taking control away from the player, charging them more, and giving them less...[/QUOTE]
oh yeah gaming's dead because of mw2 fucking totally dude
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[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;22625163]It's that Kotick is just proving that he is a giant douche in this article.[/QUOTE]
why is that even relevant
Yes but he is still such a big douche that he could be used as a hairdryer with all of the hot air he's blowing out.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;22625307]Yes but he is still such a big douche that he could be used as a hairdryer with all of the hot air he's blowing out.[/QUOTE]
who cares, he runs the board for some company that makes games
Because this article is annoying that's why.
I guess it's okay that almost all new franchises are going unnoticed while every new COD game (and other series being completely milked like cash cows) will be released and sold to people who think it's okay to just make a million sequels of 1 game. I phrased a lot of things wrongly in my previous posts, a lot of it came out wrong. But, the bottom line is: activision isn't what it used to be, kotick is running them into the ground, and game devs feel secure by developing 90 sequels of 1 franchise because people (halo/cod tards, in general) appreciate the shitty sequels they crank out, then are pushed into buying their overpriced DLC.
On the subject of world of warcraft: It has only gotten worse, the more time you put into it, the less you get out of it. They made it so new customers can easily join their game, thus adding to their subscriber base. Also, any effort put into customizing your character can easily be changed by, you guessed it, paying up. I won't be surprised when you can buy more than cosmetic items, as long as the price is right.
I'm not mad that "oh they are just trying to make money". I'm mad because they are ruining the future of having enjoyable video games.
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625418]I guess it's okay that almost all new franchises
are going unnoticed while every new COD game (and other series being completely milked like a cash cow) will be released and sold to people who think it's okay to just make a million sequels of 1 game.[/QUOTE]
yeah it's called capitalism, the better product wins
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625418]I phrased a lot of things wrongly in my previous posts, a lot of it came out wrong.[/QUOTE]
no your mistake was the part where you got all butthurt over mw2
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625418]But, the bottom line is: activision isn't what it used to be[/QUOTE]
they used to be a publishing company, they still are a publishing company
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625418]kotick is running them into the ground[/QUOTE]
activision disagrees, else they'd boot him off the board
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625418]and game devs feel secure by developing 90 sequels of 1 franchise because people (halo/cod tards, in general) appreciate the shitty sequels they crank out, then are pushed into buying their overpriced DLC.[/QUOTE]
yeah i guess you are a genius, we should all share your game tastes or be burned at the stake
hahah are you serious or is this like a joke, nobody can be this stuck up
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625418]On the subject of world of warcraft: It has only gotten worse, the more time you put into it, the less you get out of it. They made it so new customers can easily join their game, thus adding to their subscriber base. Also, any effort put into customizing your character can easily be changed by, you guessed it, paying up. I won't be surprised when you can buy more than cosmetic items, as long as the price is right.[/QUOTE]
what's the part where it's gotten worse, tell me, a very long time wow player how it is gotten worse?
[QUOTE=thisispain;22625486]yeah it's called capitalism, the better product wins[/quote]
unfortunately, even in the gaming industry, this is true. fortunately, we still have valve, who appreciates putting a lot of time into a game and not gouging the price and putting out 1 dlc a month.
[quote=thisispain;22625486]no your mistake was the part where you got all [b]butthurt[/b] over mw2[/quote]
you just don't get it, and you're resorting to being immature. I'm not butthurt at all, I just think MW2 should have been an improvement on it's predecessor. They lowered it to the level of a shitty xbox port; literally renaming the files that say "xbox live" to "iwnet" and stamped out a few hundred thousand copies.
[quote=thisispain;22625486]yeah i guess you are a genius, we should all share your game tastes or be burned at the stake
hahah are you serious or is this like a joke, nobody can be this stuck up[/quote]
I will admit I am a video game snob, I don't appreciate developers releasing (through their own volition or their publisher's) underdeveloped or unfinished games/game content. I can however appreciate other people have other tastes. I'm not saying "agree with me or die", but people who support this kind of development techniques (a million sequels, not 1 new idea) are ignorant. Whether it's halo, wow, cod, or even final fantasy.
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625788]unfortunately, even in the gaming industry, this is true. fortunately, we still have valve, who appreciates putting a lot of time into a game and not gouging the price and putting out 1 dlc a month.[/QUOTE]
yeah valve is cool
i don't get why that means mw2 is the spawn of satan
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625788]you just don't get it, and you're resorting to being immature. I'm not butthurt at all, I just think MW2 should have been an improvement on it's predecessor. They lowered it to the level of a shitty xbox port; literally renaming the files that say "xbox live" to "iwnet" and stamped out a few hundred thousand copies.[/QUOTE]
so you haven't actually played the game wow
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625788]people who support this kind of development techniques (a million sequels, not 1 new idea) are ignorant. Whether it's halo, wow, cod, or even final fantasy.[/QUOTE]
fuck off i'm not ignorant of anything, you're just being a snob, forget activision, people like you are ruining the gaming industry
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625788]unfortunately, even in the gaming industry, this is true. fortunately, we still have valve, who appreciates putting a lot of time into a game and not gouging the price and putting out 1 dlc a month.[/QUOTE]
Valve is well off. They are selling really well and their business model is working for them. Just because Activision's model is working doesn't mean that no other model can. I personally have great respect for Valve, and feel good about buying from them knowing how much effort they put into their games, but that doesn't mean that I hate Activision or EA and think they should rot.
[quote]so you haven't actually played the game wow[/quote]
I actually played from nov '05 to oct '09. It just seemed to be more of the bland shit they have already released, more of the developers ignoring the player, even MORE monetizing (buying minipets... really?).
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625788]
I will admit I am a video game snob, I don't appreciate developers releasing (through their own volition or their publisher's) underdeveloped or unfinished games/game content. I can however appreciate other people have other tastes. I'm not saying "agree with me or die", but people who support this kind of development techniques (a million sequels, not 1 new idea) are ignorant. Whether it's halo, wow, cod, or even final fantasy.[/QUOTE]
It isn't underdeveloped if people like it and the creators are happy with it though. If the game was really as shitty as you say then people wouldn't buy it. It's like music, it's heavily commercialised, but that isn't bad. It's something that is made to appeal to a huge group of people, while smaller groups make games for their own fanbase that want a specific type of game. It isn't the end of gaming because these big companies make games with mass appeal, as long as there is demand for the specific and special games that market will continue to thrive.
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[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625893]I actually played from nov '05 to oct '09. It just seemed to be more of the bland shit they have already released, more of the developers ignoring the player, even MORE monetizing (buying minipets... really?).[/QUOTE]
So you quit your subscription, great. Now Blizzard doesn't get your money, and you are no longer supporting them. If other people feel the same way Blizzard will either go bankrupt or improve the game. I personally like wow, and I still play it, they haven't ruined it for me.
He makes a lot of money sure, but I think he's destructive in that process.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;22625908]It isn't underdeveloped if people like it and the creators are happy with it though. If the game was really as shitty as you say then people wouldn't buy it. It's like music, it's heavily commercialised, but that isn't bad. It's something that is made to appeal to a huge group of people, while smaller groups make games for their own fanbase that want a specific type of game. It isn't the end of gaming because these big companies make games with mass appeal, as long as there is demand for the specific and special games that market will continue to thrive.[/QUOTE]
I'm not some hipster who says "mainstream = bad", at all. In fact I enjoyed halo, halo 2, wow (at one point), mw1, and some aspects of MW2. MW2 just had so much more potential through dedicated servers (to stop rampant hacking and to allow players to pick what map to play, and to form a better community through MW2 clans, current clan support sucks), mod support, etc. It's disappointing more than anything.
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625893]I actually played from nov '05 to oct '09. It just seemed to be more of the bland shit they have already released, more of the developers ignoring the player, even MORE monetizing (buying minipets... really?).[/QUOTE]
no i meant
ah fuck it, please go on about how we should all be excellent like you
[QUOTE=Penguiin;22625957]I'm not some hipster who says "mainstream = bad", at all. In fact I enjoyed halo, halo 2, wow (at one point), mw1, and some aspects of MW2. MW2 just had so much more potential through dedicated servers (to stop rampant hacking and to allow players to pick what map to play, and to form a better community through MW2 clans, current clan support sucks), mod support, etc. It's disappointing more than anything.[/QUOTE]
I don't like MW2, I never bought it. I don't really want it either. I don't care if Activision makes money and other people like the game because I know that they aren't getting a cent from me with that game. It's a disappointing game but it is just as simple as not supporting it, not whining about Bobby Kotick and talking about assassinating him.
The reason Kotick is a prick is because he's a heartless asshole who wants to turn what should be an artistic endeavor into a product manufacturing line.
He said himself, he wants to suck the fun out of making games. And if you do that they're all going to be shit.
Modern Warfare was good. It wasn't revolutionary, but it was good. All it did was take the spotlight that Halo once had.
Would any of you argue Twilight was an artistic masterpiece because a bunch of horny teenage girls bought it?
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[QUOTE=thisispain;22625324]who cares, he runs the board for some company that makes games[/QUOTE]
He also controls a vast swathe of the gaming market. And he has to ability to purchase smaller game studios and force them into his borg like collective.
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