EU agencies funding lobbying groups who oppose the death penalty in the States

[Lowland]

[QUOTE=Bazsil;43989707]I didnt know that the whole population of the US entirely 100% held the same exact opinion and supported what the government did

Interesting[/QUOTE]

A government doesn't vote itself into office, though.

[zakededodead]

Well the thing is I'm sure most of us want to see lobbying and bribery gone ( or at least heavily scaled back), the alternative to utilizing them in a system where they aren't gone is to just allow the other side to win.

It's like if you were in a race where you're allowed to take shortcuts (or steroids or whatever), you may disagree with the shortcut being in the race in the first place, but it would be stupid to just let the other contestant win by not taking it.

[editline]20th February 2014[/editline]

[QUOTE=V12US;43993030]A government doesn't vote itself into office, though.[/QUOTE]

[quote=bazsil]the US[/quote]

[demoguy08]

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;43981484]Unfortunately, as much as I'd rather this not turn into another capital punishment debate, whether or not this is "something awful" is fairly up in the air, and largely comes down to a person's views.[/QUOTE]

Capital punishment is fucking barbaric and utterly uncivilized, oh look it's not up in the air anymore :)

[Sgt-NiallR]

[QUOTE=demoguy08;43993210]Capital punishment is fucking barbaric and utterly uncivilized, oh look it's not up in the air anymore :)[/QUOTE]

"I disagree"
Oh look, it's back up in the air.

[sp]I agree that the death penalty is retarded, but assertions aren't arguments[/sp]

[zakededodead]

Capital punishment is murder. Murder is wrong no matter how many people perpetrate it.

Not up in the air anymore.

[cqbcat]

Hmmm... if a foreign power can fund lobbying groups in the United States, then I wonder what other countries are doing to influence American politice. I guess North Korea is funding a pro-North Korean lobby in America.

[Rangergxi]

[QUOTE=TestECull;43980690]Greaaaattt. Guys, stop fucking with our politics.[/QUOTE]

It..its brilliant.. You can rally the Republican base against lobbying by calling out foreigners like the EU and China. Nothing works better than Xenophobia when passing reforms.