Report: NASCAR driver Tony Stewart runs over competitor after altercation - Polidicks

i don't know if you guys know this, but sprint cars are [I]extremely[/I] hard to drive. 4 different tire sizes, they drive sideways. They can barely turn which is why they drift around corners and hence have the funky wings. my thoughts on this is that tony was still on the outside of the track and when he came around, didn't see the goddamn retard in the middle of the track. you can even see him quickly swerving trying to miss him. He must have been behind someone and couldn't see. Racing drivers, no matter where, are not fucking murderers. they fight, argue, what the fuck ever but a racing driver will never kill another driver on purpose. [I]Especially[/I] since Tony wasn't even the one that wrecked.

Is there actually a specific speed you're required to drive during a caution? The rule book only says no passing. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/1IPo34E.png[/IMG] [url]http://www.woosprint.com/images/stories/MainImages/PDF/2014_WoO_Sprint_Rulebook.pdf[/url] There is a part that says everyone must be at a consistent speed during starts and restarts, but nothing specific about during caution.

[QUOTE=mn_chaos;45650003]Yes Stewart was an ass for ignoring the flag but so did other cars. Its a result of stupid from all sides but I definitely wouldn't call this tragic accident an intentional murder.[/QUOTE] Nobody ignored the caution flag. There shouldn't have been someone playing frogger on the track.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45645948]This is why the rest of the world sneers at NASCAR. The drivers act like idiot children.[/QUOTE] I seem to recall Senna, Formula 1 Jesus, smashing his own teammate off the track to prevent him from winning a championship race.

[QUOTE=darunner;45652774]I seem to recall Senna, Formula 1 Jesus, smashing his own teammate off the track to prevent him from winning a championship race.[/QUOTE] mind you that was after the fia presedent showed extreme bias towards his fellow frenchie and swapped the grid around to his favour, still dangerous though

It looked intentional to me. In that youtube video, he revved up before the collision.

[QUOTE=aydin690;45653452]It looked intentional to me. In that youtube video, he revved up before the collision.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=U.S.S.R;45649861]Heads up: the reuploaded youtube video is audio edited to make it sound like Tony accelerated right before he hit the kid. The liveleak video is not edited.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=aydin690;45653452]It looked intentional to me. In that youtube video, he revved up before the collision.[/QUOTE] Even if it was unedited, how could you tell? The accident occurred on the far end of the track, while there were multiple vehicles on it. I'd bet a shiny nickel that, if there were acceleration heard on the track, that it came from one of the multiple other cars closer to the camera.

Some idiot was needlessly running around on the track while cars are still in motion on it and people are blaming Stewart? I guess I shouldn't be surprised. These days even if you do something intentionally stupid there are people who think it's someone else's fault if you get hurt doing it.

[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;45653571]Some idiot was needlessly running around on the track while cars are still in motion on it and people are blaming Stewart?[/QUOTE] Stewart is a star, if he was to blame it would be a big scandal. People like scandals, so a bunch of people want it to be his fault.

[QUOTE=aydin690;45653452]It looked intentional to me. In that youtube video, he revved up before the collision.[/QUOTE] Way to read. Regardless of the edited video how can you determine it was his vehicle when there are dozen + other's surrounding it? Oh, wait.

I love how EVERYONE on here are such gurus on engines that they can tell which specific car is revving by the sound, without even knowing which engine is in each car! Quick question, was that rev from a GM, Ford, or Crystler engine?

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;45654194]I love how EVERYONE on here are such gurus on engines that they can tell which specific car is revving by the sound, without even knowing which engine is in each car! Quick question, was that rev from a GM, Ford, or Crystler engine?[/QUOTE] Pretty sure it was a '04 Ihavenofuckingcluewhatimtalkingabout.

Saw this post from a guy who works on one of the cars that was at this race, and figured it should be posted here (Edited it slightly, just to make it more readable. Didn't change any words.) [Quote= Mark Tychoniewicz]I have driven these cars. The right side board on the top wing will block out an entire car, let alone a person standing there. I now work on the 45 car in the video and the driver said he just saw him at the last second and just missed him. Tony had even less time to react to the situation. People in the stands or watching this video have no idea how fast these thing happen and how limited our view is inside the car. It was a very bad turn of events that happened, but we all know the dangers involved in the sport we love.[/quote] Direct link to the post: [url]https://www.facebook.com/mark.tychoniewicz/posts/844718932205116[/url]

Kevin Ward killed Kevin Ward.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;45654194]I love how EVERYONE on here are such gurus on engines that they can tell which specific car is revving by the sound, without even knowing which engine is in each car! Quick question, was that rev from a GM, Ford, or Crystler engine?[/QUOTE] Proprietary. And because they're either 410 or 360 cubic inch v8 spec engines depending on the race, they're probably not going to sound very different from one another. So tell me: how much do [i]you[/i] know about sprint car racing for you to be criticizing everyone else's knowledge on the subject?

[QUOTE=n0cturni;45668077]Proprietary. And because they're either 410 or 360 cubic inch v8 spec engines depending on the race, they're probably not going to sound very different from one another. So tell me: how much do [i]you[/i] know about sprint car racing for you to be criticizing everyone else's knowledge on the subject?[/QUOTE] About sprint car racing? Nothing. I never claimed to know anything about sprint car racing. Can you tell the difference between a 410 or a 360? How about the sound difference between 2, 3, and 4 valve heads? How about the sound difference between differing cam profiles and timing? If you can't tell these differences by sound, how can you pinpoint which engine and car it came from and say "you can hear him rev right before he hits him"? Because if you can say that, then my questions should be easy without looking it up. If someone makes a claim, they better be able to back it up.... But way to miss the entire point.

[QUOTE=n0cturni;45668077]Proprietary. And because they're either 410 or 360 cubic inch v8 spec engines depending on the race, they're probably not going to sound very different from one another. So tell me: how much do [i]you[/i] know about sprint car racing for you to be criticizing everyone else's knowledge on the subject?[/QUOTE] Somebody doesn't need to be a sprint racing veteran to realize that is nigh impossible to isolate a single engine from a car across the track while on the close side several vehicles are passing. Sure maybe you could if you were there but its a poor quality recording to boot.

[QUOTE=n0cturni;45668077]Proprietary. And because they're either 410 or 360 cubic inch v8 spec engines depending on the race, they're probably not going to sound very different from one another. So tell me: how much do [i]you[/i] know about sprint car racing for you to be criticizing everyone else's knowledge on the subject?[/QUOTE] Didn't realize you need to know much about sprint cars to be smart enough to realize that engine rev could have come from any car on that track.

[QUOTE=mn_chaos;45669497]Somebody doesn't need to be a sprint racing veteran to realize that is nigh impossible to isolate a single engine from a car across the track while on the close side several vehicles are passing. Sure maybe you could if you were there but its a poor quality recording to boot.[/QUOTE] That's the point I was trying to make. Also being the fact that each vehicle has an engine designed to the same specifications as everyone else in the race. As I said, they're all going to sound the same, and I was arguing that there's no point in starting to get into the semantics of it because of this. Maybe I missed if he was responding to people that were making claims based on those exact things that they don't know about, but I didn't see any of those posts nor a quote that he was referring to (but I guess he's referring to everyone so idk) [QUOTE=Delta616;45669631]Didn't realize you need to know much about sprint cars to be smart enough to realize that engine rev could have come from any car on that track.[/QUOTE] You don't.

[QUOTE=n0cturni;45670359]You don't.[/QUOTE] That was EXACTLY his point!