War Z forum mod gets demodded and his account banned, releases dirt on The War Z - Polidicks

What I don't understand is why people put in hundreds and hundreds of hours basically providing free labor for these companies in terms of forum moderation etc. I understand supporting a game and wanting to see it come out great and what have you, I even understand that maybe it's a sense of power thing, but you'd think there'd be easier more productive ways to go about that. There was a long post on Reddit about the Starcraft modding community that laid out how this one mapper spent months and months working on a map, a lot of time trying to help Blizzard refine the editor, even going so far as to mock up a UI and board meeting presentation for the guy who clearly had no idea what he was doing. All for it to go nowhere. What's even harder to grasp is that these companies have no appreciation for this free labor. If I had someone emailing me literally telling me the best ways to do something, codeand making my presentations for me I sure as shit wouldn't be as unappreciative as I've seen and heard companies to be.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38624617]mmm If I got permabanned out of the blue for no reason on a game I loved, the last thing I'll do is ignore it and repurchase it. This is the dumbest fucking idea I've heard of.[/QUOTE] first thing I'd do is get a lawyer instead

[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;38626746]There's people saying War Z is just a cash grab riding on DayZ's coattails. There's people saying War Z is in a sorry state because it's an alpha with lots more development needed. There's people saying to not take this completely seriously because a forum moderator wouldn't have access to that kind of information. So I don't know what I'm supposed to think. I literally bought the game yesterday and haven't even had a chance to download it.[/QUOTE] My advice is to ignore what people say about it and play it yourself. Make up your own mind whether you like it or not.

[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;38626900]I don't see why it really matters if it's going after the same fame that DayZ gained. [B]Since DayZ is a bad game in pretty much every aspect except in concept[/B], we need some other alternatives.[/QUOTE] I really don't get this. It's not. People keep complaining about that it's a buggy mess, but it isn't that messy at all. I rarely get shitty bugs anymore.

[QUOTE=SwissArmyKnife;38627234]What I don't understand is why people put in hundreds and hundreds of hours basically providing free labor for these companies in terms of forum moderation etc. I understand supporting a game and wanting to see it come out great and what have you, I even understand that maybe it's a sense of power thing, but you'd think there'd be easier more productive ways to go about that. There was a long post on Reddit about the Starcraft modding community that laid out how this one mapper spent months and months working on a map, a lot of time trying to help Blizzard refine the editor, even going so far as to mock up a UI and board meeting presentation for the guy who clearly had no idea what he was doing. All for it to go nowhere. What's even harder to grasp is that these companies have no appreciation for this free labor. If I had someone emailing me literally telling me the best ways to do something, codeand making my presentations for me I sure as shit wouldn't be as unappreciative as I've seen and heard companies to be.[/QUOTE] Even good companies fail at this, the TF2 team, well, what's left of them, seems to be... slow, considering that people are literally throwing fixes at them on the workshop left and right. It doesn't help the act that a large portion of the bugs can be fixed with editing a text file, which a member of our forums has spent quite a lot of his free time in doing. Yet only tiny amounts of fixes get implemented, if any.

[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;38626900]I don't see why it really matters if it's going after the same fame that DayZ gained. Since DayZ is a bad game in pretty much every aspect except in concept, we need some other alternatives.[/QUOTE] DayZ is a free mod though, soon to be completely standalone from ArmA II. Let me dig up a quote from one of the very early WarZ threads.. [editline]Edited:[/editline] Found it: [QUOTE=ZestyLemons;36965249]Not getting my hopes up until I see gameplay.[/QUOTE] And after I saw the gameplay, I was pretty disappointed. It basically looked like Day Z with even more PvP

[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;38626467]I don't think neither are true 'zombie apocalypse simulators' DayZ is a mission file for Arma 2 and my hopes are low for the standalone since they seem to be reselling the mod (In my personal opinion) [/QUOTE] [url]http://dayzdev.tumblr.com/[/url] not really tbh they are working on it really hard, but I still hate the fact how they use that heli sim engine instead of arma 3

I requested a refund through xsolla's support e mail and said i bought the game after they falsly advertised it, i hope i still get my money back but it doesn't seem so.

[QUOTE=SwissArmyKnife;38627234]What I don't understand is why people put in hundreds and hundreds of hours basically providing free labor for these companies in terms of forum moderation etc. I understand supporting a game and wanting to see it come out great and what have you, I even understand that maybe it's a sense of power thing, but you'd think there'd be easier more productive ways to go about that. There was a long post on Reddit about the Starcraft modding community that laid out how this one mapper spent months and months working on a map, a lot of time trying to help Blizzard refine the editor, even going so far as to mock up a UI and board meeting presentation for the guy who clearly had no idea what he was doing. All for it to go nowhere. What's even harder to grasp is that these companies have no appreciation for this free labor. If I had someone emailing me literally telling me the best ways to do something, codeand making my presentations for me I sure as shit wouldn't be as unappreciative as I've seen and heard companies to be.[/QUOTE] You can't really compare moderating to modders (or anyone actually making content like that). Moderating isn't something you usually get paid for (an exception might be large companies' community forums). FP mods, for example, get tiny donations by Boostar and that's about it.

[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;38627426]I really don't get this. It's not. People keep complaining about that it's a buggy mess, but it isn't that messy at all. I rarely get shitty bugs anymore.[/QUOTE] I don't think 90% of the people actually realised they were paying for an alpha despite it mentioning it several times, that or they're morons who think that an alpha is the final product

This guy could just be a asshole who got butt hurt over being demoded. He had no connection to the development team other than through the forums.

[quote]They randomly ban accounts that have a certain amount of time spent playing in-game, knowing they are hooked on the game so they re-buy the game.[/quote] If this is real (which there is a 90% chance it isn't) then there is no way in hell this is legal.

[QUOTE=legolover122;38627986]If this is real (which there is a 90% chance it isn't) then there is no way in hell this is legal.[/QUOTE] It states in the ToS that they can ban/deactivate an account without warning for any reason. However, if it were taken to court any decent Judge would probably disregard this.

This thing smelled of vaporware even before anything about it was released. I don't know why people fell for it. I guess they were desperate.

[QUOTE=Mericet;38624563]What the fuck.[/QUOTE] Do NOT tell EA or any living soccer mom or any living soccer mom at EA about this.

[QUOTE=Nitro836;38628150]Do NOT tell EA or any living soccer mom or any living soccer mom at EA about this.[/QUOTE] Well actually EA couldn't do this if they wanted. Its not exactly legal. Big Rigger has done it before.

[QUOTE=icemaz;38624547]It's a crap cash in of the DayZ genre of games (Made by a dev team which isn't the same as those who made Dayz) which has frankly nothing good going for it.[/QUOTE] And that's what I said when they first announced the game, that it was basically a copy cat cash grab at DayZ's popularity and everyone in the thread rated me dumb. Way to go Facepunch.

If this is true, I'm both not surprised as well as ashamed I fell for it.

[QUOTE=Noss;38628017]It states in the ToS that they can ban/deactivate an account without warning for any reason. However, if it were taken to court any decent Judge would probably disregard this.[/QUOTE] But who can prove it was not a legit ban?

[QUOTE=itisjuly;38628349]But who can prove it was not a legit ban?[/QUOTE] They'll have to prove it's a legit ban.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;38628415]They'll have to prove it's a legit ban.[/QUOTE] It's piss easy to fake it.

Honestly, this information doesn't seem like something a company would tell a mere forum moderator. Nor is it something a forum moderator is more capable of finding out than a regular player of the game could find out.

Its his fault he got keylogged.

The WarZ and DayZ both have their good qualities and ridiculous quirks. It seems that DayZ has the more professional Dev team, but their hardon for realism and wanting to release a standalone version of the game is turning more and more people off to it. The WarZ dev team seems like a bunch of babies with the ability to program, so even though the game is fairly stable even for an alpha the future of the game is definitely not secure. If they don't get their shit together I can see things getting really ugly.

[QUOTE=mixshifter;38628474]Honestly, this information doesn't seem like something a company would tell a mere forum moderator. Nor is it something a forum moderator is more capable of finding out than a regular player of the game could find out.[/QUOTE] Possibly the fact that nobody would believe him because of how on edge the fan base is. But then again, The company is full of idiots.

[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;38627426]I really don't get this. It's not. People keep complaining about that it's a buggy mess, but it isn't that messy at all. I rarely get shitty bugs anymore.[/QUOTE] It's not just bugs The gameplay is clunkier than anything, it's horribly unoptimized, zombies aren't a challenge, the network is super fragile, and the animations, especially on zombies, are the worst thing I've ever seen. Except maybe the environment (which is just default) I can find zero redeeming qualities in DayZ except for the concept itself. If ANY other type of game had these issues, it would be deemed as a hunk of shit.

[url]http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?64813-To-All-Devin-H-Spammers&highlight=Devin[/url] WarZ's take on the incident

Try Fifa, now that is a true money-grabbing 'hunk of shit' Not that I can stop playing it.

[QUOTE=racerfan;38629662][url]http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?64813-To-All-Devin-H-Spammers&highlight=Devin[/url] WarZ's take on the incident[/QUOTE] [quote]After a few hours, the administrators (Sergey Titov and Kewk) removed the Moderator status from Devin's account, and banned it. After the whole situation settled down, Devin's account had been unbanned and its password changed, then brought back to Moderator status. Then, the administrators decided to [B]punish Devin for his error by removing his Moderator status.[/B][/quote] Yeah I can see why someone would rage. [editline]28th November 2012[/editline] [quote]Devin went mad with rage, and decided to actually go over to Rhinocrunch's forum and give him his entire loyalty, and give out information that is unknown to be true or false about the game, The War Z. [/quote] I can't handle the opinionation. The poster isn't a moderator so i'll take the entire thing with a landslide of salt.

[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;38629191]It's not just bugs The gameplay is clunkier than anything, it's horribly unoptimized, zombies aren't a challenge, the network is super fragile, and the animations, especially on zombies, are the worst thing I've ever seen. Except maybe the environment (which is just default) I can find zero redeeming qualities in DayZ except for the concept itself. If ANY other type of game had these issues, it would be deemed as a hunk of shit.[/QUOTE] DayZ is the worst Arma2 mission I have ever played, but some of the other ones are gold. Domination2 is a lot of fun.