• Intruder Calls 911, Afraid Homeowner May Have Gun
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[QUOTE=OvB;28495076][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE5UoQzIRro&feature=player_detailpage#t=54s[/media][/QUOTE] Sweet. That's what I'm going to go by. [editline]8th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Broseph_;28495133]Nether Zastava M70AB2[/QUOTE] Zastava is a good manufacturer. I have a Tokarev (WW2 Soviet officer's pistol), made by them.
[QUOTE=Sanius;28494915]Yes, and you would go to prison for voluntary manslaughter.[/QUOTE] Voluntary manslaughter for shooting an intruder... in Texas? Hahahaha, please tell me you're joking?
[QUOTE=johan_sm;28492893]That sucks.[/QUOTE] Too much GTA too little real death? What I mean is, whoever you murder probably has a family. Maybe he can't quite afford food? Or clean clothes? criminals aren't always jsut doing it for the extra cash, they might just be unlucky.
[QUOTE=LoserFace;28496283]Too much GTA too little real death? What I mean is, whoever you murder probably has a family. Maybe he can't quite afford food? Or clean clothes? criminals aren't always jsut doing it for the extra cash, they might just be unlucky.[/QUOTE] Well they were unlucky, now they are unlucky and dead. Death is bad and all, but if someone breaks into my house, his problem.
[QUOTE=faze;28493872]Better to be safe than sorry. If somebody kicks in my front door at 3AM, I'd rather protect myself, cats, wife and possessions than be all sympathetic for some low life piece of shit robber. Again, favoring criminals. And no one here is even the justice system.[/QUOTE] What happens if it's dark, you start firing on these intruders, and they turn out to be police officers with warrants? Have fun in prison for the rest of your life. But hey, "better safe than sorry", huh?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28496859]What happens if it's dark, you start firing on these intruders, and they turn out to be police officers with warrants? Have fun in prison for the rest of your life.[/QUOTE] Cops don't serve warrants at 3AM, they also announce themselves as they storm through the door.
[QUOTE=faze;28496880]Cops don't serve warrants at 3AM, they also announce themselves as they storm through the door.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-knock_warrant[/url] They'll yell police as they come through, not enough time for you to put the gun down if you're determined to kill them.
[QUOTE=faze;28496880]Cops don't serve warrants at 3AM, they also announce themselves as they storm through the door.[/QUOTE] This. Even if they were cops, they would scream like mad that it's police. They do that so they are not marked as intruders so they don't get shot.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28496898][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-knock_warrant[/url][/QUOTE] [quote=wikipedia] law enforcement will identify themselves just before they forcefully enter the property[/quote] Your point? Most warrants are no-knock warrants. They ram the door and yell "(such and such county/state police) search warrant search warrant!!!" Do you ever watch Cops?
Would be in my state
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28496898][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-knock_warrant[/url] They'll yell police as they come through, not enough time for you to put the gun down if you're determined to kill them.[/QUOTE] Not enough time? Dropping a gun takes less than a second
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28496898][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-knock_warrant[/url] They'll yell police as they come through, not enough time for you to put the gun down if you're determined to kill them.[/QUOTE] If I see some guys rushing in my house screaming police, I'll drop the fucking gun. Either way, if they break in at 3AM, their fault. Police don't do warrants in the middle of the fucking night.
Also if police do invade you and you jump out, chances are you will get shot before you shoot them. Because no knock warrants with door breakdowns usually involve swat and whatnot
[QUOTE=faze;28496925]Your point? Most warrants are no-knock warrants. They ram the door and yell "(such and such county/state police) search warrant search warrant!!!" Do you ever watch Cops?[/QUOTE] Great. When I want to rob your house I'll just pound on the door and yell police first. [editline]8th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=faze;28496959]If I see some guys rushing in my house screaming police, I'll drop the fucking gun. Either way, if they break in at 3AM, their fault. Police don't do warrants in the middle of the fucking night.[/QUOTE] Nobody said anything about night.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28496991]Great. When I want to rob your house I'll just pound on the door and yell police first.[/QUOTE] Great, then you are charged with police impersonation. Not taken lightly most places, just give up. You have no argument.
[QUOTE=faze;28494091]they are a threat to everything in the home, alive and inanimate.[/QUOTE] no not my ficus trees anything but that
[QUOTE=johan_sm;28496984]Also if police do invade you and you jump out, chances are you will get shot before you shoot them. Because no knock warrants with door breakdowns usually involve swat and whatnot[/QUOTE] This. I wouldn't fall for door banging and yelling police, plus I have a peephole. Yes I use it.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28496991]Great. When I want to rob your house I'll just pound on the door and yell police first. [editline]8th March 2011[/editline] Nobody said anything about night.[/QUOTE] Federal judges and magistrates may lawfully and constitutionally issue "no-knock" warrants where circumstances justify a no-knock entry, and federal law enforcement officers may lawfully apply for such warrants under such circumstances. The court and police MUST have valid reasons issue a no knock
[QUOTE=RG4;28497036]Federal judges and magistrates may lawfully and constitutionally issue "no-knock" warrants where circumstances justify a no-knock entry, and federal law enforcement officers may lawfully apply for such warrants under such circumstances. The court and police MUST have valid reasons issue a no knock[/QUOTE] This. And they won't be sneaking in like cat buglers. They will be ramming the fucking door screaming police, and holding assault rifles and such, and be dressed in Swat garb.
I guess he's all washed up now.
[QUOTE=faze;28497064]This. And they won't be sneaking in like cat buglers. They will be ramming the fucking door screaming police, and holding assault rifles and such, and be dressed in Swat garb.[/QUOTE] And then shoot your dog :v:
[QUOTE=faze;28497013]Great, then you are charged with police impersonation. Not taken lightly most places, just give up. You have no argument.[/QUOTE] My argument is that firing on intruders is negligent unless they're a threat, and your attitude could very easily end up with you accidentally shooting a cop or even some drunkard that stumbled into the wrong house/apartment. Your 'shoot first ask questions later' views are retarded.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28497133]My argument is that firing on intruders is negligent unless they're a threat, and your attitude could very easily end up with you accidentally shooting a cop or even some drunkard that stumbled into the wrong house/apartment. Your 'shoot first ask questions later' views are retarded.[/QUOTE] How does a drunk stumble into a house with locked door?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28497133]My argument is that firing on intruders is negligent unless they're a threat, and your attitude could very easily end up with you accidentally shooting a cop or even some drunkard that stumbled into the wrong house/apartment. Your 'shoot first ask questions later' views are retarded.[/QUOTE] Not really. Tried by six or carried by 12? What would you rather have? [editline]8th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=johan_sm;28497160]How does a drunk stumble into a house with locked door?[/QUOTE] This.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;28497160]How does a drunk stumble into a house with locked door?[/QUOTE] You ever forget to lock your door? Of course not, you and faze are infallible aren't both of you the types of people who think obama is a socialist and shit? why am I even bothering with you [editline]8th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=faze;28497162]Not really. Tried by six or carried by 12? What would you rather have? [/QUOTE] This isn't the old west you can't just go around shooting
Isn't odd how people say America's Legal is bad but is other countries the intruder can sue or change the locks on the house and claim squatter's right
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28497229]You ever forget to lock your door? Of course not, you and faze are infallible [/QUOTE] I always lock my door...I've never forgotten to...not even when totally hammered. I live just outside Baltimore, the city with the second highest violent crime rate in the country. I have cop friends that patrol my area, tons of B&E's. Again, better to be safe than sorry.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28496859]What happens if it's dark, you start firing on these intruders, and they turn out to be police officers with warrants? Have fun in prison for the rest of your life. But hey, "better safe than sorry", huh?[/QUOTE] Police officers are not given exemption from Texas' Castle Doctrine until they announce their selves as being peace officers and until then I am legally entitled to shooting every single one of them dead as soon as they step across the property line
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28497229]You ever forget to lock your door? Of course not, you and faze are infallible aren't both of you the types of people who think obama is a socialist and shit? why am I even bothering with you [/QUOTE] What the fuck? You forget to lock your door? Whoa that's really bad memory. Also I don't really care about Obama since I'm not american. But still, forgetting to lock your door is a really bad thing. It happened to me once but then I was going out, not in. Also I was like 10 then. Thank god no drunk stumbled in.
[QUOTE=faze;28497256]I always lock my door...I've never forgotten to...not even when totally hammered. I live just outside Baltimore, the city with the second highest violent crime rate in the country. I have cop friends that patrol my area, tons of B&E's. Again, better to be safe than sorry.[/QUOTE] I'm just saying that simply because someone has entered your home uninvited, doesn't mean they are a threat to you or your family. I don't see why you can't understand this. Most burglars would say "holy shit" and run away if they saw you pointing a gun at them but you wouldn't even give them that chance. [editline]8th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=johan_sm;28497335]What the fuck? You forget to lock your door? Whoa that's really bad memory.[/QUOTE] I don't usually have my door locked when I'm at home. At night or when I'm away I lock it.
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