U.S. Army Posts Job Listing For "93E Internment/Resettlement Specailist". - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Lankist;16584447]Do you have a learning disability? I've explained this a dozen times. [editline]02:44PM[/editline] FYI members of the Guard are not exclusively inactive army personnel. It is the reserve and defense component for our entire military.[/QUOTE] Can't you fucking read. [highlight]In 2005, National Guard members and reservists were said to comprise a larger percentage of frontline fighting forces than in any war in U.S. history (about 43 percent in Iraq and 55 percent in Afghanistan).[17] There were then 183,366 National Guard members and reservists on active duty nationwide who leave behind about 300,000 dependents, according to U.S. Defense Department statistics. Due Strains placed on active duty units following the September 11th attacks, the possible mobilization time was increased to 18 months (with no more than one year overseas). Additional strains placed on military units as a result of the invasion of Iraq further increased the amount of time a Guardsman could be mobilized to 24 months. Current Department of Defense policy is that no Guardsman will be involuntarily activated for more than 24 months (cumulative) in one six year enlistment period (this policy is due to change 1 August 2007, the new policy states that soldiers will be given 24 months between deployments of no more than 24 months (individual states have differing policies). 18 months (with no more than one year overseas) one year overseas[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Broseph_;16584418]one year overseas[/highlight][/QUOTE] In the Army. [editline]02:46PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Broseph_;16584476]Can't you fucking read.[/QUOTE] Stop repeating yourself, it is annoying. I'm not explaining it again until you can calm the fuck down and read the words I say to you.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16584483]In the Army. [editline]02:46PM[/editline] Stop repeating yourself, it is annoying. I'm not explaining it again until you can calm the fuck down and read the words I say to you.[/QUOTE] No, they fight as the [B]NATIONAL GUARD[/B] overseas, just as the Marines fight as the fucking Marines, and not the Navy. [I]With the consent of state governors, members or units of the Army National Guard may be appointed, temporarily or indefinitely, to be federally recognized armed force members, in the [highlight]active[/highlight] or inactive service of the United States [2][3]. [B][highlight]If federally recognized, the member or unit becomes part of the Army National Guard of the United States[/highlight] [/B][4][5][6], which is a reserve component of the United States Army[ [/I]

[QUOTE=Broseph_;16584531]No, they fight as the [B]NATIONAL GUARD[/B] overseas[/QUOTE] No they do not. They fight as active National Guard personnel redeployed to their original branch of the military. The National Guard does not operate anywhere overseas. They neither have the logistics nor the command for that. [editline]02:50PM[/editline] And stop quoting wiki like you're talking to an idiot. That quote proves nothing to your case aside from the fact that you clearly can't read.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16584554]No they do not. They fight as active National Guard personnel redeployed to their original branch of the military.[/QUOTE] There's no winning with you.

Fine, let's go with it. Use wiki to find evidence that the National Guard operates in and guards parts of Gitmo and Abu Ghraib, two overseas prisons.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16584483]In the Army. [editline]02:46PM[/editline] Stop repeating yourself, it is annoying. I'm not explaining it again until you can calm the fuck down and read the words I say to you.[/QUOTE] Just keep repeating it to yourself, Lankist, it may come true.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16584554]No they do not. They fight as active National Guard personnel redeployed to their original branch of the military. The National Guard does not operate anywhere overseas. They neither have the logistics nor the command for that. [editline]02:50PM[/editline] And stop quoting wiki like you're talking to an idiot. That quote proves nothing to your case aside from the fact that you clearly can't read.[/QUOTE] Ok, lets just Agree to disagree since you don't believe me, and believe the national guard never evere has or will deploy overseas. [url]http://www.army.mil/-newsreleases/2008/05/19/9263-four-national-guard-brigades-alerted-for-2009-iraq-operations/[/url]

[QUOTE=Trotsky;16584610]Just keep repeating it to yourself, Lankist, it may come true.[/QUOTE] Do you even fucking know what we're talking about?

Someone needs to lock this thread before this flame war spreads to other poor, unsuspecting topics.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;16584615]Ok, lets just Agree to disagree since you don't believe me, and believe the national guard never evere has or will deploy overseas. [url]http://www.army.mil/-newsreleases/2008/05/19/9263-four-national-guard-brigades-alerted-for-2009-iraq-operations/[/url][/QUOTE] The National Guard as a branch of the military does NOT deploy overseas. Its personnel do when they are made active military again, and when that happens they are put under the command of an active military branch. There is no "agreed to disagree." This is the shit I do for a living, you are dead wrong and don't know what you're talking about. There are no National Guard prisons, and they are recruiting Prison Guards. There is something wrong about that. National Guard prisons in of themselves are dodgy and borderline illegal. Gitmo illegal.

Oh dear god I thought that inhumane torture by US military only occurred abroad!

[QUOTE=Lankist;16584607]Fine, let's go with it. Use wiki to find evidence that the National Guard operates in and guards parts of Gitmo and Abu Ghraib, two overseas prisons.[/QUOTE] Never said they did, Just said they fell under the Army, also there were plans of moving Gitmo prisoners to a unused Federal prison on U.S. soil a few months back.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;16584686]Never said they did, Just said they fell under the Army, also there were plans of moving Gitmo prisoners to a unused Federal prison on U.S. soil a few months back.[/QUOTE] No there weren't. The media suggested it, but that would be extremely illegal. It is against the constitution to imprison someone on US soil without due process, a trial by a jury of your peers. We cannot try "terrorists," that's why Gitmo was made in the first place. We cannot put them here if we feel like obeying the constitution any time this century. If you want to imprison them in this country they get a fair trial and a cell in a CIVILIAN-OPERATED prison. [quote]Umm, no Military Prisons? Did Gitmo just disappear from thin air? What about Abu Ghraib?[/quote] [quote]Hey Cunt, The National Guard falls under the Army, which is why the call it the fucking Army National Guard, also "No established Military police"?! Are you trying to be fucking Ignorant, since when hasn't there been a god damn Military Police. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar...ed_States_Army[/url])[/quote] [editline]03:02PM[/editline] Let's assume you're right (you aren't.) Why would the NATIONAL GUARD, who has no established confinement facilities to their name, be hiring prison guards? [editline]03:03PM[/editline] There are only a few fucking ARMY detention centers here in the US and they are on ARMY bases and manned by active ARMY personnel, not Guardsmen.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16584646]The National Guard as a branch of the military does NOT deploy overseas. Its personnel do when they are made active military again, and when that happens they are put under the command of an active military branch. There is no "agreed to disagree." This is the shit I do for a living, you are dead wrong and don't know what you're talking about. There are no National Guard prisons, and they are recruiting Prison Guards. There is something wrong about that. National Guard prisons in of themselves are dodgy and borderline illegal. Gitmo illegal.[/QUOTE] God damn you are stubborn, you know that, But explain to me, how even though the National Guard is actively deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq, how they aren't and can't be deployed and how the U.S. military has the time to transfer all the personal to the U.S. Army, then again, you might not notice the Army National Guard in the news since they wear U.S. army Uniforms. [editline]02:06PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;16584731]No there weren't. The media suggested it, but that would be extremely illegal. It is against the constitution to imprison someone on US soil without due process, a trial by a jury of your peers. We cannot try "terrorists," that's why Gitmo was made in the first place. We cannot put them here if we feel like obeying the constitution any time this century. If you want to imprison them in this country they get a fair trial and a cell in a CIVILIAN-OPERATED prison. [editline]03:02PM[/editline] Let's assume you're right (you aren't.) Why would the NATIONAL GUARD, who has no established confinement facilities to their name, be hiring prison guards? [editline]03:03PM[/editline] There are only a few fucking ARMY detention centers here in the US and they are on ARMY bases and manned by active ARMY personnel, not Guardsmen.[/QUOTE] Bro I don't fucking know, ask them. [url]http://www.nationalguard.com/careers/mos/description.php?mos_code=31E[/url] [quote]Internment / Resettlement Specialists in the Army are primarily responsible for day-to-day operations in a military confinement/correctional facility or detention/internment facility. Internment / Resettlement Specialists provide rehabilitative, health, welfare, and security to US military prisoners within a confinement or correctional facility; provide custody, control, supervision and security to internees within a detention/internment facility; conduct inspections; prepare written reports; coordinate activities of prisoners/internees and staff personnel.[/quote] Take note it doesn't mention the national guard and is just copied from Army job listing. perhaps the national guard listing was a mistake on the part of some dumbass.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;16584777]God damn you are stubborn, you know that, But explain to me, how even though the National Guard is actively deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq, how they aren't and can't be deployed and how the U.S. military has the time to transfer all the personal to the U.S. Army, then again, you might not notice the Army National Guard in the news since they wear U.S. army Uniforms.[/QUOTE] They are deployed as US Army soldiers, not as National Guardsmen. The National Guard does not have the logistics or command structure present for what you suggest to even be possible. They transfer to the Army as active soldiers. The National Guard is a reserve and defense operation. They are not like the Army, they do not deploy and command their own people, they give their people to other branches for THEM to deploy. They are the U.S. Army Soldier Store of our military. They are the LOGISTICS branch of our military, managing military human resources, not operating bases large enough to house military prisons and/or guarding overseas prisons. They are the intermediary organization that keeps track of soldiers while they are off-duty. The Guard's authority ends at our borders. When a soldier is redeployed, they leave the command of the Guard and re-enter the command of their chosen branch. They are Guardsmen no more, they go back to active duty with a fighting branch of the military. What you are suggesting is like saying FEMA is a police organization because they work WITH the police.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16584837]They are deployed as US Army soldiers, not as National Guardsmen. The National Guard does not have the logistics or command structure present for what you suggest to even be possible. They transfer to the Army as active soldiers. The National Guard is a reserve and defense operation. They are not like the Army, they do not deploy and command their own people, they give their people to other branches for THEM to deploy. They are the U.S. Army Soldier Store of our military. They are the LOGISTICS branch of our military, managing military human resources, not operating bases large enough to house military prisons and/or guarding overseas prisons. They are the intermediary organization that keeps track of soldiers while they are off-duty. The Guard's authority ends at our borders. When a soldier is redeployed, they leave the command of the Guard and re-enter the command of their chosen branch. They are Guardsmen no more, they go back to active duty with a fighting branch of the military. What you are suggesting is like saying FEMA is a police organization because they work WITH the police.[/QUOTE] They AREN'T DEPLOYED AS U.S. ARMY They ARE deployed as U.S. ARMY NATIONAL GUARD. Just as the Marine Corps AREN'T DEPLOYED AS THE U.S. NAVY They are deployed as THE U.S. MARINE CORPS [editline]02:12PM[/editline] Also stop shitting up my thread with your I'M RIGHT YOUR WRONG bullshit.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;16584777]Take note it doesn't mention the national guard and is just copied from Army job listing. perhaps the national guard listing was a mistake on the part of some dumbass.[/QUOTE] The only legit reason I can think of advertising that is that they are running low on personnel in the military bases where the facilities are housed. I doubt that's the case, but it sounds like they're preparing to expand prison operations on our soil, which is a worrying prospect at very least. And note when they say "Military prisoners" they mean prisoners who are members of the US Military. Traitors, spies, deserters. [editline]03:14PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Broseph_;16584936]They AREN'T DEPLOYED AS U.S. ARMY They ARE deployed as U.S. ARMY NATIONAL GUARD.[/QUOTE] No they are not. [quote]The National Guard does not have the logistics or command structure present for what you suggest to even be possible.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Lankist;16584975]The only legit reason I can think of advertising that is that they are running low on personnel in the military bases where the facilities are housed. I doubt that's the case, but it sounds like they're preparing to expand prison operations on our soil, which is a worrying prospect at very least. And note when they say "Military prisoners" they mean prisoners who are members of the US Military. Traitors, spies, deserters. [editline]03:14PM[/editline] No they are not.[/QUOTE] 1. Obama was talking about using a unused federal prison on U.S. soil to house detainees from Gitmo when he was trying to close it. 2. Exactly, Which is why I didn't buy this bullshit the way the WND was spinning it and decided to do my research on it then take these hal turner wannabes' word at face value. 3. Just shut the fuck up, I'm not going to waste my time getting sources and posting links just to have you disregard them and continue on with this pointless argument.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;16585037]1. Obama was talking about using a unused federal prison on U.S. soil to house detainees from Gitmo when he was trying to close it. 2. Exactly, Which is why I didn't buy this bullshit the way the WND was spinning it and decided to do my research on it then take these hal turner wannabes' word at face value. 3. Just shut the fuck up.[/QUOTE] 1. That is impossible and illegal as per the Constitution of the United States. 2. Your research was poor. 3. No.

[QUOTE=markg06;16583918]Have an opinion and you're a terrorist.[/QUOTE] Wait, he's for abortions?

[QUOTE=Lankist;16585092]1. That is impossible and illegal as per the Constitution of the United States. 2. Your research was poor. 3. No.[/QUOTE] 3. [url]http://www.jtfgtmo.southcom.mil/index.html[/url] Joint Task Force Guantanamo Mission JTF Guantanamo conducts safe, humane, legal and transparent care and custody of detainees, including those convicted by military commission and those ordered released. We conduct intelligence collection, analysis and dissemination for the protection of detainees and personnel working in JTF Guantanamo facilities and in support of the Global War on Terror. We provide support to the Office of Military Commissions and support law enforcement and war crimes investigations. In 2008, 374 news media representatives from 300 media outlets were supported by JTF Guantanamo and reported from here. More than 2,700 news media representatives have visited here since January, 2002. Joint Task Force Commander: Rear Admiral Tom Copeman, U.S. Navy Joint Task Force Deputy Commander: Brigadier General Rafael O’Ferrall, [highlight]Puerto Rico Army National Guard[/highlight] [url]http://www.jtfgtmo.southcom.mil/photoarchive/2009/January/photosjan09.html[/url] [img]http://www.jtfgtmo.southcom.mil/photoarchive/2009/January/090128-A-2080I-002web.jpg[/img] GUANTANAMO BAY, Cuba – Army Spc. Luis Luna, a unit supply clerk with the 111th Combat Support Battalion, [highlight]Puerto Rico National Guard[/highlight], prepares to deliver supplies using a fork lift, Jan. 28, 2009. [img]http://www.jtfgtmo.southcom.mil/photoarchive/2009/January/090102-N-3885W-039web.jpg[/img] GUANTANAMO BAY, Cuba – Staff Sgt. Daniel Evans, an administrative assistant with the111th Combat Support Battalion, [highlight]New Mexico Army National Guard[/highlight], holds his unit’s cased guidon during a Transfer of Authority ceremony here, Jan. 2, 2009. [url]http://www.sfreporter.com/stories/git_back/4438/[/url] [quote]Git Back New Mexico National Guard Returns from Guantanamo Bay By: Corey Pein 02/11/2009 Last month, more than 70 [highlight]New Mexico guardsmen came home[/highlight] from a year-long [highlight]deployment to the US military base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba[/highlight]—one of the most controversial outposts in George W Bush’s “war on terror.” President Barack Obama has promised to close the prison there within a year. In the coming year, more than 800 soldiers and airmen in the [highlight]New Mexico National Guard will be deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan[/highlight]. They will join what has become a seemingly endless flow of armed Americans to foreign war zones and back.[/quote] [url]http://www.la.ngb.army.mil/langb_site/Stories/07C_LNG@Guantanamo_Cuba.html[/url] [quote]Armed with cameras and computers, the [highlight]Louisiana National Guard[/highlight] sounds off on its upcoming [highlight]mission to Guantanamo Bay[/highlight], Cuba. The [highlight]Louisiana National Guard is headed to Guantanamo[/highlight]. The Guard's latest division to be alerted and mobilized is the 241st Mobile Public Affairs Detachment. "They'll be supporting what is still called Operation Mobile Eagle. They'll be gone for a year, from March to March," says Lt. Col. Pete Schneider with the Louisiana National Guard. "Their mission is to handle all the public affairs activities for Joint Task Force Guantanamo." About 20 soldiers, currently headquartered at Gillis Long in Carville, will depart within the next 10 days for two weeks of training at Fort Lewis, Wash., before continuing to Cuba. "Basically what our mission is going to be is we will be supporting the Joint Task Force holding the detainees," says 1st Lt. Kevin Cowan, who returned from a fact-finding trip to Guantanamo on March 3. "They're trying not to draw undue attention to the operation, but not hiding anything either." Intense secrecy remains around the approximate 400 detainees the Joint Task Force continues to hold at Guantanamo. More than five years have passed since the first detainees arrived at the then makeshift prison, despite widespread international condemnation. [/quote]

That doesn't have anything to do with its illegality.

I'm [highlight]GETTING REAL ANGRY NOW[1][/highlight] i wonder if [b]bold[/b] and [highlight]HIGHLIGHT [/highlight] will make be more correct

[b]IF I TYPE[/b] IN capslock and call you a [highlight][b]FUCKING SHIT DICKER[/b][/highlight] it makes me less completely wrong

[QUOTE=Lankist;16585307]That doesn't have anything to do with its illegality.[/QUOTE] It still happens, and they are still deployed as the National Guard, and they are deployed to prisons now will you stop being a stop fucking pushing it and shitting up my thread.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;16585355]It still happens, and they are still deployed as the National Guard, and they are deployed to prisons.[/QUOTE] No they are not. [editline]04:01PM[/editline] You've yet to highlight a part that says that.

[quote]But Thompson noted that the report also targeted as "potential terrorists" Americans who: * Oppose abortion * Oppose same-sex marriage * Oppose restrictions on firearms * Oppose lax immigration laws * Oppose the policies of President Obama regarding immigration, citizenship, and the expansion of social programs * Oppose continuation of free trade agreements * Are suspect of foreign regimes * Fear Communist regimes * Oppose a "one world" government * Bemoan the decline of U.S. stature in the world * Are upset with loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs to China and India, and more[/quote] Good.

[QUOTE=Parky;16585410]Good.[/QUOTE] Lol. Does this mean the entire Mormon Church disappears? Because I'm totally fine with that.

Lankist loses. Continue the thread gentlemen. Anyway, this will only create more shit for rightists to throw.