Koch Brothers want to rewrite the constitution, they may succeed. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=joshuadim;52371355]I'd love to see them old fucks try. If they even TRY to touch the Bill of Rights or the balance of powers they will feel the full force of the American people's fury.[/QUOTE] HAHAHAHAHAHA Do you really think most Americans would care if corporations laid their hands on the Constitution? All you have to do is say "changing the Constitution will bring back jobs" and a majority of Americans will eat it right up. These are the same people who gave the tea party the keys to the Republican Party and just gave them the largest majority the GOP has ever had in both houses. The bill's name could literally be the National Puppy and Kitten Euthanasia Act and Americans wouldn't bat an eye unless Fox News or Info Wars (Depending on which generation of conservatives they belong to) told them to. And the real kicker is that even without the Pro Republican Gerrymandering and declining education, Democrats have been losing more seats than ever at each election cycle since 2008. People here only remember as far back as the last election.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52371390]such a bait title. it's virtually impossible for them to actually do so.[/QUOTE] While difficult and unlikely from a practical standpoint, claiming that it is "virtually impossible" is quite silly. Doubly so, when you consider that the article just outlined the decidedly [I]not[/I] impossible methods by which it could actually be accomplished. [editline]17th June 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=LtKyle2;52371461]It's a sad time when we have to check the leanings of every source, imo. We really do live in a era of info wars.[/QUOTE] While it might be sad that we [I]have[/I] to check sources, it's good that we [I]are[/I] checking sources. Some of us, at least. Don't let misinformation and propaganda rule you, as it has so many people in this country.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52371401]If the Koch brothers aren't careful, they're going to find out what happens when you push an angry mob of a few hundred million people to their limits. When people have nothing to eat, they'll eat the rich.[/QUOTE] Brutal as it may be, if things get that bad I would LOVE to see that happen. But let's hope things DON'T get that bad, and instead we just tear them into bloody gobbets of meat with some horrifying yet high-tech machine. No-one would want to see it, and no-one would want that to happen to them, which in the end is a recipe for a brutal warning. Because if it could happen on the front lawn of one of the Koch mansions, maybe it could happen anywhere? Nowhere would be safe, and the only way to avoid it would be to behave and work towards a better future for humanity. [editline]17th June 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Sky King;52371516]I love the 2nd amendment. The united states and most of the world is experiencing late stage capitalism and this kind of thing is inevitable.[/QUOTE] And when it does, videos of CEOs and executives being executed will probably be all over places like LiveLeak.

[QUOTE=ironman17;52371788]Brutal as it may be, if things get that bad I would LOVE to see that happen. But let's hope things DON'T get that bad, and instead we just tear them into bloody gobbets of meat with some horrifying yet high-tech machine. No-one would want to see it, and no-one would want that to happen to them, which in the end is a recipe for a brutal warning. Because if it could happen on the front lawn of one of the Koch mansions, maybe it could happen anywhere? Nowhere would be safe, and the only way to avoid it would be to behave and work towards a better future for humanity. [editline]17th June 2017[/editline] And when it does, videos of CEOs and executives being executed will probably be all over places like LiveLeak.[/QUOTE] When (literal) pigs fly.

With an attitude like that, maybe. We don't have the privileged luxury of being pacifists anymore, I'm afraid. If we want a better future, we'll have to carve it into the backs of the parasites killing our planet and free society.

I'm sure a lot of people will exercise their right to bear arms if the even change a word in the constitution.

Maybe those second-amendment people should do something about it if this were true. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if my fellow countrymen would bend over and suck their Kochs.

[QUOTE=Kagu;52371869]Maybe those second-amendment people should do something about it if this were true. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if my fellow countrymen would bend over and suck their Kochs.[/QUOTE] That would raise a pickle. On one hand they're your countrymen, but on the other hand they'd be in your way. On one hand, they're people just like you and I, but on the other hand, if they supported the parasites to such an extent that they'd actually FIGHT for them, they would be accessories to the attempted murder of our world and our culture. In their case, I guess shoot to disarm and incapacitate, but not kill. Spare them for the courts, make the enemy have to expend resources trying to recover them and nurse them back to health.

Money truly does rule the world

[QUOTE=ironman17;52371835]With an attitude like that, maybe. We don't have the privileged luxury of being pacifists anymore, I'm afraid. If we want a better future, we'll have to carve it into the backs of the parasites killing our planet and free society.[/QUOTE] OK, I disagree vehemently with what the article seems to be saying the Koch Bros. wanna do, but you might need to step away from the news cycle for a couple hours.

[QUOTE=Popularvote;52372097]OK, I disagree vehemently with what the article seems to be saying the Koch Bros. wanna do, but you might need to step away from the news cycle for a couple hours.[/QUOTE] I think all people who want to retain some sense of sovereignty over their rights should be just as pumped up as him because this is a pretty pivotal and fucked up period in our history.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52372108]I think all people who want to retain some sense of sovereignty over their rights should be just as pumped up as him because this is a pretty pivotal and fucked up period in our history.[/QUOTE] OK, well, good to know that everyone is suddenly okay with busting into people's homes and eviscerating them. Jesus fuck, what's happened to Polidicks in the last two days? Did that one shooting really bring on such an attitude?

[QUOTE=Popularvote;52372115]OK, well, good to know that everyone is suddenly okay with busting into people's homes and eviscerating them. Jesus fuck, what's happened to Polidicks in the last two days? Did that one shooting really bring on such an attitude?[/QUOTE] Where did I say that? You're the one trying to put words in my mouth with every post between two threads. Maybe you need to try harder to understand where other people are coming from than just assuming that anyone who doesn't see eye to eye with you is insane.

Republicans: the constitution is a sacred document that should never be amended without reason, we're going to amend it because its not friendly to supply side economics.

[QUOTE=Popularvote;52372115]OK, well, good to know that everyone is suddenly okay with busting into people's homes and eviscerating them. Jesus fuck, what's happened to Polidicks in the last two days? Did that one shooting really bring on such an attitude?[/QUOTE] When they're threatening the Constitution, threatening to take away 23 million people's access to healthcare, destroying our education system, grinding people into poverty, and are making a mockery of our political system in general through blatant corruption that clearly is not serving the best interests of the nation or the people... what do you expect to happen? You really think people are just going to lay down and accept this lol? No, of course they're not-- they're going to get angry about it, and they have every reason to be angry about it. Trevor Noah was actually talking about this the other day on TDS with regards to the repeal of the ACA. This is a big deal. We can't afford to just pretend that it's not and that it's merely business as usual (it isn't; to quote Dan Rather, "these are not normal times"). The direction we're slipping towards is absolutely frightening to anybody who understands just what's at stake.

[QUOTE=Popularvote;52372115]OK, well, good to know that everyone is suddenly okay with busting into people's homes and eviscerating them. Jesus fuck, what's happened to Polidicks in the last two days? Did that one shooting really bring on such an attitude?[/QUOTE] It's been like that since about the time Trump won the nomination. Also, to everyone talking Second Amendment, serious or not: knock it off. If you want to effect change, get out and protest. Volunteer for a campaign group. [I]Vote.[/I] We have enough problems in this country without bringing talk of violence and treason into it.

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;52372369]It's been like that since about the time Trump won the nomination. Also, to everyone talking Second Amendment, serious or not: knock it off. If you want to effect change, get out and protest. Volunteer for a campaign group. [I]Vote.[/I] We have enough problems in this country without bringing talk of violence and treason into it.[/QUOTE] ^ this. Remember the good old days are when people were trying to argue that "the second amendment is an outdated concept"? I like how everyone has now collectively lost their minds all of the sudden after a fruit with a bad hair day became president. The irony is exquisite :v:

Is this where the revolution comes in?

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;52372369]If you want to effect change, get out and protest. Volunteer for a campaign group. [I]Vote.[/I][/QUOTE] People have been doing this since the day after the election. The single largest protest that has ever occurred in United States history was orchestrated with the Women's March in January after the inauguration that saw more than [i]4 million people[/i] show up for it nationwide. The March for Science back in April for Earth Day that saw more than a million people worldwide-- mostly in the United States-- protest the administration's and Republicans' views on science, climate change, and their politicization of both (I joined this one). Then we had the May Day protests against their immigration policies. We've been doing this for a while now. Pay attention. [editline]18 June 2017[/editline] What I'm trying to get at dude is that people have been protesting, volunteering, and voting for months now, and they haven't really seen any positive tangible benefits from it. They've put in a lot of work, and it hasn't gotten them anywhere. They're not being listened to or taken seriously. That's why so many people are getting radical: not only are they scared by recent developments and decisions that have been made, they also feel backed into a corner and powerless.

The constitution needs changes/additions more drastic than this lol

[QUOTE=Judas;52371310]Cyberpunk dystopia here we come[/QUOTE] lol remember when robocop and the day today were just exaggerated, funny satire?

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;52372369]It's been like that since about the time Trump won the nomination. Also, to everyone talking Second Amendment, serious or not: knock it off. If you want to effect change, get out and protest. Volunteer for a campaign group. [I]Vote.[/I] We have enough problems in this country without bringing talk of violence and treason into it.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately I don't think America is going to a place where 'vote, volunteer, protest' means anything to the rulers of this country.

The Russians did a good job in promoting the idea that American Democracy doesn't work it seems.

[QUOTE=Destroyox;52373166]The Russians did a good job in promoting the idea that American Democracy doesn't work it seems.[/QUOTE] ??????? Since when "Russians" has done this decade's old problem with else Rich elites like Koch bros.

[QUOTE=ChadMcGoatMan;52373196]??????? Since when "Russians" has done this decade's old problem with else Rich elites like Koch bros.[/QUOTE] Well the fact that there's strong evidence they might've interfered with the election to get Donald Trump elected (if not Republicans in general) has made a lot of people (such as some in this thread) extremely distrusting of the American system. The Koch brothers are influencers of the Republican party which is the same party people blame on their distrust. Putin has been trying to deligitamize democracies for decades now, as it's apart of Russia's global strategy. Not a hard connection to make.

[QUOTE=Destroyox;52373219]Well the fact that there's strong evidence they might've interfered with the election to get Donald Trump elected (if not Republicans in general) has made a lot of people (such as some in this thread) extremely distrusting of the American system. The Koch brothers are influencers of the Republican party which is the same party people blame on their distrust. Not a hard connection to make.[/QUOTE] Ok, that you ironically sound conspiracy theorist and toxic Democratic partisan thinking that Trump really want you to do. But I could respect your beliefs since you point its strong sign it's possible that Russian government agents somehow screwing results to clearly and equally flaw candidate like Trump to beat her (again clearly and equally flaw candidate as herself) but please don't scapegoat everything to Russians (as referring to Russian people because not all them are blind followers of Putin) to ruining your life.

[QUOTE=ChadMcGoatMan;52373247]Ok, that you ironically sound conspiracy theorist and toxic Democratic Party partisan thinking. But I could respect your beliefs since you point its strong sign it's possible that Russian government agents somehow screwing results to clearly and equally flaw candidate like Trump to beat her (again clearly and equally flaw candidate) but please don't scapegoat everything to Russians (as referring to Russian people) to ruining your life.[/QUOTE] I'm not though? I'm commenting on how their tactic of deligitamzing democracy seems to be working if this thread is any indication. Perhaps I didn't make that clear but I was commenting more on the posts than the article itself. This whole "Putin wants democracies to not seem legitamate" isn't some conspiracy theory. He deligitamizes it in his own country.

[QUOTE=Destroyox;52373253]I'm not though? I'm commenting on how their tactic of [B]deligitamzing democracy[/B] seems to be working if this thread is any indication. Perhaps I didn't make that clear but I was commenting more on the posts than the article itself.[/QUOTE] The United States itself always delegitimizing democracy on second/third world nations (Including Russia too in the mid-1990s) for decades either for good/bad reasons. But screaming of possible first international election rigging on the United States (the Superpower internationally) for the first time is a sin, Well welcome to the club for your punishment.

[QUOTE=ChadMcGoatMan;52373264]But screaming of possible first election rigging in the United States (the Superpower internationally) for the first time is a sin, Well welcome to the club.[/QUOTE] What does this even mean?

[QUOTE=Destroyox;52373278]What does this even mean?[/QUOTE] That you do and other stereotypical Democratic/Republican members are doing now. Ignoring your nation's mixed diplomatic/espionage history since 1945. [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_interventions_of_the_United_States"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_interventions_of_the_United_States[/URL], [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_United_States_foreign_policy"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_United_States_foreign_policy[/URL] and [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change[/URL] And it's seemly finally catching America's butt. With the last thing, I'm trying to be neutral about this issue.