Far-right UKIP overtake labour because of 'protest votes'
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[b]Don't even start.[/b][/QUOTE]
You don't get it do you, as far as I can tell, BNP IS going to act like Norsefire. They're racist, homophobic, violent, and worst of all... they're gaining power.
Read this. This is their own words, and it even scares me. These are, and I mean LITERALLY similar policies that the Nazis made. They state that they want to bring mass media under STATE CONTROL. They want to have voluntary deportions, but they don't say what they're going to do with the ones that stay.
[url]http://web.archive.org/web/20020203190553/www.bnp.org.uk/faq.html[/url]
I don't think people understand that the BNP is a fascist party and call themselves that.
[QUOTE=thisispain;15473012]That's not a valid point. Nick Griffin was allowed to speak[/QUOTE]
It's kinda hard to speak when you're being mobbed and pelted with eggs.
[QUOTE=thisispain;15473012]it would be absolutely hypocritical if everyone else would have to keep shut.[/QUOTE]
How would this have been the case if he wasn't egged? It would have played out like any other press conference.
[QUOTE=Wayword;15467842]For any canadians who don't know what's going on.
The conservatives (tories) are like the PC's here, except more left.
Labour is like the liberals here.
These are basically the two parties. They're both in favour of being apart of the EU as far as I'm aware.
All the guys that left the conservatives and don't like the EU made the UKIP. They're all about freedom to the people and separating from the EU.
Now imagine the BNP like the party in 1984. Except 100 times more racist.
The liberal democrats used to be the third biggest party in england, they're basically like the NDP.
SNC is the Scottish national party, in favour of scottish Independence from the UK.
Green party is self explanatory.[/QUOTE]
Excellent! So they have just as much hope for prosperous aberration as we do.
State-owned mass media? Jesus christ...
I like how UKIP wants to seperate from the EU yet don't explain how we're going to get all the stuff we import.
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[QUOTE=sam.clarke;15470091]Richard Branson doesn't have a qualification to his name :)[/QUOTE]
Richard Branson started when it was physically possible to get by without a qualification.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;15469502]Again, what a brilliant comment. Silly me to actually have an opinion on something, and saying it on a forum. Weird place to say it, I know. UK is also the only place in the world with immigrants.
I'm really looking forward to the day I turn 18 when I magically get smarter because I can vote.[/QUOTE]
Australia and America exist because of immigration.
UKIP arn't really far-right. They just want Britain to remain separate from Europe. The BNP not only want us separate from everyone, but they want to march anyone who is not white out of the country at gunpoint. Then once that is achieved, they will start on anyone who is not, in their eyes, what a British person should be.
if you hate paki's but dont want to look like too much of a cunt vote ukip
[QUOTE=NoDachi;15480845]if you hate paki's but dont want to look like too much of a cunt vote ukip[/QUOTE]
listen to hWAIT A FUCKING MINUTE WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY
[QUOTE=NoDachi;15480845]if you hate paki's but dont want to look like too much of a cunt vote ukip[/QUOTE]
tbh, if it's a choice between UKIP and the lunatics, I'd rather people vote for UKIP.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;15480845]if you hate paki's but dont want to look like too much of a cunt vote ukip[/QUOTE]
this.
Maybe you should read what ukip actually want to do. It's really not that bad. Build more prisons, build more nuclear power stations, banish id cards, introduce flat tax and sort out our exam based schooling system.
They also pride themselves for not being anything to do with the bnp.
[QUOTE=markg06;15480294]I like how UKIP wants to seperate from the EU yet don't explain how we're going to get all the stuff we import.
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How do you think we did it before joining the Union in 1976?
[QUOTE=sp00ks;15469310]I agree. The people from the middle east and eastern european countries should just have chosen a better place of birth, it's totally their own fault.[/QUOTE]
OH shut the fuck up and listen to his argument, instead of just spouting some stupid passive-aggressive, sarcastic one liner.
What I'm saying is, that I think it's stupid to say the you should care more about people from your own country than people from other countries.
Why not? You've grown up with these people and shared the same culture with them. Naturally, you're going to care more about people you relate to :/
You've grown up with several million people? Big family.
I don't relate a lot of people from my own country, they're idiots.
Fair enough.
I agree with the frozen immigration policy's though, just until the storm clears.
Right wing is rising :)
[QUOTE=Stene;15483237]Right wing is rising :)[/QUOTE]
Britain has always been right winged anyway, aren't Labour more right than left? Same with Conservatives.
[b][url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/the_collapsing_global_left_1.html] The Collapsing Global Left[/url][/b]
[quote]By Bruce Walker
Conservatives can take heart from the crushing blow that taxes and spenders received in the California election. Six propositions were on the ballot in May. All six passed the California Legislature easily. Republicans in the legislature generally opposed them. The five supported by the Left were defeated by huge landslides. Four of those five were defeated in every single county in California (the fifth barely carried the San Francisco area.) The proposition to limit legislative salaries while the state ran a deficit, however, carried every county in California and won 75% of the vote across the state.
Was this a victory for conservatives? It was in this sense: It was a crushing defeat of the Left. Other elections in May brought more gloomy news for the Left and enemies of the West. India held elections in mid-May. Polls showed that the Left might well win control of the Indian Government. Instead, the ruling Congress Party won a sweeping victory, which is very good news for the United States. At the same time, the Kuwaiti people were casting votes for their parliament. The big story was that four women were elected to the parliament, two of whom were educated in America – and they were elected by an overwhelmingly male electorate. The lesser story was that non-religious political parties – political parties that look more like what a party in Holland or Canada would look like – finally gained a majority in the Kuwaiti Parliament. Western pluralism is taking root in the most Islamic parts of the world. It is taking place because of America.
June brought even more terrible news for the Left. England held regional elections. The Labour Party government of Prime Minister Gordon Brown is bland, staid Leftism. An example of its almost casual Leftism was the decision of the Home Secretary Jacqui Smith to include conservative talk show host Michael Savage on a list of the twenty-two undesirables too hateful to enter the United Kingdom. The minister responsible for that Orwellian action is out of the cabinet now (though more because her husband charged his personal porn purchases as a government expense.)
The Labour Party, in many ways, is the oldest Leftist party in the world. It is certainly one of the most significant. Under the sunny smile and glib words of Tony Blair, Labour did pretty well. But not now. The government of Great Britain is in free fall. The Labour Party has the confidence of practically no one.
Polls for the last several years have shown that if the general election were held today, the Labour Party would be swept from power. It is even conceivable that Labour, after the next election, will be only the third largest party in the House of Commons. The mere fact that Brown has not called a general election, when practically no one believes in his ability to govern, is a disgrace to the parliamentary system.
Another disgrace – a big one – popped up a few weeks before the June 5, 2009 elections. Members of Parliament were caught in the same sort of personal abuse of the government parliamentary administration that the United States House of Representatives was caught doing twenty years ago in the House Banking Scandal. Labour Party members sinned, but so did Conservative MPs and others. How would the British people react?
The results were breathtaking in their scope. The Conservative Party, which already controlled most of the local councils in England, gained control of seven more local councils. Tories won 30 of the 34 councils up for election. The number of Conservative Party local council members in England, which already was greater than Labour, increased dramatically. Most democracies and Britain is no exception. Although Labour was the big loser, the next largest party, the Liberal Party, lost seats too. The voters of England, who in 2008 local elections had already given Conservatives a big victory, gave Conservatives in 2009 an even more sweeping victory.
A couple of days later, results of the election members to the European Parliament were reported. The Conservative Party won more seats than any other party, and other conservative parties like the Independence Party and British National Party scored dramatic gains. The results were a clear restatement by the British people that the Right, not the Left, should be governing them.
What happened in Britain happened across Europe. Angela Merkel in the September 2009 election appeared certain to be able to form a Right-Center government with its Free Democrat Party, and end the Right-Left coalition government she heads now. Every poll for several years has shown that result. State elections in Hesse earlier this year showed that. Now, the European Parliament elections show that too. The Social Democrats, the primary party of the German Left, received an historically low 21% of the vote.
Across the width and breadth of Europe, the more conservative political parties were drubbing the parties of the Left. It means in a few months, every major nation in Europe will have a political party of the Right in power. Europe is not having a Reagan Revolution or even a Thatcher Revolution. But Europe is giving the Left an F- on its electoral report card,
Does the smashing victory of the Conservative Party, and these other victories mean that the democratic world is suddenly embracing our conservative principles? No: not at all. But does it mean that voters, almost everywhere they can vote, are rejecting the message of the Left? Yes. Real conservatism is not winning elections yet; but the Left is clearly losing.
American voters are bombarded by their media with the message that conservatism is dead, because a Democrat got 52 perecent of the presidential vote. Meanwhile, the collapse of the Left proceeds apace elsewhere in the world.[/quote]
I enjoyed a headline in one newspaper today that said;
[b]Eggstemist![/b]
(and the best part is, they were brown eggs!)
[QUOTE=Vasili;15484304]Britain has always been right winged anyway, aren't Labour more right than left? Same with Conservatives.[/QUOTE]
No. We're quite left wing relative to the world.
Hell some republican americans see us as die hard socialists.
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;15468087]UKIP aren't really far right. You do have to ask yourselves this though. When will we stop bending over backwards to please non-british nationals and look after the people who have been contributing to this country for generations? British workers DO need jobs, British citizens DO need the NHS. There are only so many immigrants we can allow in, there has to be a point where we say no more. We can't afford to keep paying their benefits and to house them, they're not paying taxes if they're not working so the money we give them is lost because they aren't repaying anything to the country, just think how draining that is on our economy and it's not exactly a good time for us to be throwing billions on pounds down the drain.[/QUOTE]
exactly.
there also has to be a point where we finally stand up, grow some balls and tell the ones that are already here to go back to where they came from and stop fucking up our country
[QUOTE=Wolf_Marine;15484959][b][url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/the_collapsing_global_left_1.html] The Collapsing Global Left[/url][/b][/QUOTE]
That's a really biased source.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;15485434]No. We're quite left wing relative to the world.
Hell some republican americans see us as die hard socialists.[/QUOTE]
But I think compared to inland Europe we're considered pretty centeral.
[QUOTE=Wolf_Marine;15484959][b][url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/the_collapsing_global_left_1.html] The Collapsing Global Left[/url][/b][/QUOTE]
American thinker is doing an article on Global politics.
nice job k, fyi, The Conservative party of the UK is a lot more left than the Republicans, k thanks
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[QUOTE=JLea;15483136]Why not? You've grown up with these people and shared the same culture with them. Naturally, you're going to care more about people you relate to :/[/QUOTE]
That's not fair in anyway, seeing as English culture would not at all be the same if it didn't traverse the entire globe, and the entire globe didn't traverse Britain.
We did not invent Tea sir.
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The artwork is bad, but you get the idea.
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Fun fact: the constituencies where the BNP won EP seats actually voted for them LESS than last time.
I don't get the idea.
I think it's something about Scot's and Welsh etc. being portrayed as immigrants or something :s?
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