GOP Media Strategist Says Republicans Would Choose Killing Obamacare Over Killing Osama Bin Laden
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[QUOTE=yawmwen;33637561]Is there an example of a true libertarian society out there?[/QUOTE]
That depends, what actually draws the line between "true libertarianism" and anarchy? One could argue that Somalia is pretty libertarian - no government intrusion into the lives of citizens, the market is free, all law enforcement is handled privately on the local level, [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeer]the justice system is based on an objectivist way of thinking[/url], and every man truly is an island.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33637961]That depends, what actually draws the line between "true libertarianism" and anarchy? One could argue that Somalia is pretty libertarian - no government intrusion into the lives of citizens, the market is free, all law enforcement is handled privately on the local level, [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeer]the justice system is based on an objectivist way of thinking[/url], and every man truly is an island.[/QUOTE]
However, there is also an issue of resources and infrastructure. Could a society like Somalia's work in a place like the United States with a lot of resources? Probably not, but that isn't the point anyways. Even Somalia is not devoid of compassion.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;33638032]However, there is also an issue of resources and infrastructure. Could a society like Somalia's work in a place like the United States with a lot of resources? Probably not, but that isn't the point anyways. [b]Even Somalia is not devoid of compassion.[/b][/QUOTE]
within families, probably, but it isn't called the most violent place in the world for nothing
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33638061]within families, probably, but it isn't called the most violent place in the world for nothing[/QUOTE]
Violence is often done out of compassion and love. People have so little access to food(and I would say that has to do more with their natural environment than any government system) that they are forced to rob, kill, pirate, loot, and all that shit in order to properly take care of the people they love. So in the sense of compassion I would say Somalia is in some ways an example of the lengths people will go to take care of their family.
Anyways, if I keep talking about it my argument will probably either completely come apart or go into deep philosophical ramblings(I'm in a philosophical mood anyways). My point simply is that libertarians aren't some heartless people who want a world without compassion, they simply have a different view of what compassion is, and the state's role in society. I'm not saying they are right, only that I understand their viewpoint and can understand why they hold that viewpoint, and that is what I want other people to take a minute(preferably more) and think about.
[QUOTE=Ridge;33636077]Half right.
[editline]8th December 2011[/editline]
I mean that the GOP needs to get reformed, like the original Republicans replaced the whigs, except on a grander scale.
Are you suggesting more or fewer parties?[/QUOTE]
Didn't know Rick Wilson represented every republican on the planet.
As I republican, I'd rather have Ol' Sammy Bin Lammy double tapped instead of a bloody Healthcare bill.
I'm not really a Political man. Why are the Republicans like this?
[QUOTE=Tomthetechy;33654619]I'm not really a Political man. Why are the Republicans like this?[/QUOTE]
From what I can gather, at least half of what Republicans do come from a deep-seated desire to vehemently spite the Democrats wherever they can. And vice versa.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;33636975]Why wouldn't they? One is a man halfway across the earth who had evaded US soldiers for years. The other is something they perceive as a fundamental evil out to destroy their lives, on their own soil.
This is mostly liberal circle jerking. Try looking through the eyes of your opposition, for a moment. You might actually gain some insight into why they think and do the things they do.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, I thought I had brain damage for a second.
[editline]10th December 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=yawmwen;33637147]Not the politicians necessarily, but the people do. Many Republicans are just as impoverished as Democrats, they just have a different philosophy on what is best for them, and society as a whole. Either you want to try and label all republicans and conservatives as completely heartless beings lacking compassion -in which case I would point to most of my family as an example of the opposite-, or your argument that they don't have the best interests of the country at heart falls apart.
Again, would you kill a mass murderer who could kill thousands? Or would you stop a program you think will destroy the entire country and damn the 300 million people living in it? This is a philosophical question and can't be answered yes or no in any objective fashion, but I do ask that you try and understand why someone would pick the latter versus the former.[/QUOTE]
The main question is why do they think that decant healthcare which every other developed country has will ruin their country?
You can argue self reliance all you like, but healthcare is one thing that should definitely be available to everyone.
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