• Man With Down Syndrome Goes To Movies; Choked To Death By Guards
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such is life in fascist america
This inherent "hate" against disabled kids really needs to fucking stop.
[QUOTE=nehkz;41956667]This inherent "hate" against disabled kids really needs to fucking stop.[/QUOTE] it really won't stop, people are often intolerant of the unusual.
[QUOTE]Now, Saylor has filed a petition on change.org calling for a new investigation and better law enforcement training, which has garnered more than 207,000 signatures. She has also asked the Maryland attorney general and governor to reopen the case.[/QUOTE] This might be hard since currently Frederick is desperate for cops.
~Being a dumbass~
[QUOTE=locojaws;41955521]well it said he started attacking the officers but still, i don't know how that made them have to strangle him like that[/QUOTE] If you're a security officer of any sort and your first reaction to attacks is strangulation you're not doing a really good job though. [editline]25th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=NorthKorea;41956608]such is life in fascist america[/QUOTE] How the hell is that even close to fascism It's just a violent fuck doing violent shit
another source: [url]http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-27/local/38068610_1_robert-ethan-saylor-autopsy-report-three-deputies[/url] this seems to imply that he was getting violent [quote]"The autopsy report says that Saylor, who was 5-foot-6 and 294 pounds, had a “medical history of Down’s syndrome with ‘anger issues’ (especially when confronted or touched).” When one of the deputies asked Saylor to leave, he started yelling and cursing, the report says. As the three deputies tried to restrain him and lead him from the theater, the four fell “on a slightly inclined ramp at the side of the theater” and, during the struggle, the deputies placed three sets of handcuffs on Saylor, it says. “At some point while restrained and prone, he stopped struggling and was noticed to be unresponsive by the deputies,” the report says. “At some point they rolled him over and could not find a pulse, took the handcuffs off and started chest compressions.”[/quote] It's not unheard of for very fat people to have trouble breathing while handcuffed, the fact that he was prone rather than sitting up compounded the issue, and if he had DS he probably also had other defects that compounded the issue even more. It wasn't homicide, it wasn't even manslaughter. It's very clearly an accidental death.
[QUOTE=butre;41957434]another source: [url]http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-27/local/38068610_1_robert-ethan-saylor-autopsy-report-three-deputies[/url] this seems to imply that he was getting violent It's not unheard of for very fat people to have trouble breathing while handcuffed, the fact that he was prone rather than sitting up compounded the issue, and if he had DS he probably also had other defects that compounded the issue even more. It wasn't homicide, it wasn't even manslaughter. It's very clearly an accidental death.[/QUOTE] I'm happy that it wasn't murder, just bad luck that would be terrible if it was a terrible man being a terrible human. Terrible.
[QUOTE=butre;41957434]another source: [url]http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-27/local/38068610_1_robert-ethan-saylor-autopsy-report-three-deputies[/url] this seems to imply that he was getting violent It's not unheard of for very fat people to have trouble breathing while handcuffed, the fact that he was prone rather than sitting up compounded the issue, and if he had DS he probably also had other defects that compounded the issue even more. It wasn't homicide, it wasn't even manslaughter. It's very clearly an accidental death.[/QUOTE] And there it is, I hope that we all learned a lesson about the media and its want to lie to you, luckily, however, that will make other media outlets want to tell you the truth, capitalizing on different controversies (or maybe they're the same???)
[quote]The case went to a grand jury, which declined to indict the three sheriff's officers involved in the [B][U]Jan. 12[/U][/B] incident, according to the Washington Post.[/quote] [editline]24th August 2013[/editline] l8 as fuck
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41956515]Strange that Abc news would release an article about it now. Its also strange that the grand jury decided not to prosecute the officers involved in the death.[/QUOTE] It's not strange the grand jury declined to indict. In the US the general mainstream population(ie white people) see cops as the last line of defense against being overrun by criminals(ie minorities). So the cops get a blank check as far as brutality goes. In this case people refer to them as security guards, which might have been what they were doing at the time but make no mistake, these are cops and the grand jury saw them as such. All the cops need is some excuse, like "I thought he was reaching for a gun" or "He resisted arrest" or "He attempted to assault an officer" and the jury will say "He was asking for it". The fact that this victim was 300lbs also gives the jury the chance to decide he died of other physical issues. By the way, the family should be ashamed of themselves that he was in such poor shape. 5'6" and 300lbs?!?! What the hell?
My window was small so I only saw the woman in the image. Was confused for a minute. But still this is terrible. And late apparently.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;41957692]It's not strange the grand jury declined to indict. In the US the general mainstream population(ie white people) see cops as the last line of defense against being overrun by criminals(ie minorities). So the cops get a blank check as far as brutality goes. In this case people refer to them as security guards, which might have been what they were doing at the time but make no mistake, these are cops and the grand jury saw them as such. All the cops need is some excuse, like "I thought he was reaching for a gun" or "He resisted arrest" or "He attempted to assault an officer" and the jury will say "He was asking for it". The fact that this victim was 300lbs also gives the jury the chance to decide he died of other physical issues. By the way, the family should be ashamed of themselves that he was in such poor shape. 5'6" and 300lbs?!?! What the hell?[/QUOTE] Or you know, maybe they didn't deserve to be indicted because they didn't purposefully kill him and it was just a freak accident, and they were just doing what they were supposed to do? This isn't an issue of police brutality, this is just an accident.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41957867]Or you know, maybe they didn't deserve to be indicted because they didn't purposefully kill him and it was just a freak accident, and they were just doing what they were supposed to do? This isn't an issue of police brutality, this is just an accident.[/QUOTE] police acting brutally isn't an issue of police brutality?
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;41957908]police acting brutally isn't an issue of police brutality?[/QUOTE] I don't think attempting to escort a down's syndrome kid out of a theater (for a good reason) and then having to restrain him while he fights back is "brutal", that's just...their job. Technically a cop's job is brutal by nature, but police brutality is usually used to describe unjust scenarios.
[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41958039]I don't think attempting to escort a down's syndrome kid out of a theater (for a good reason) and then having to restrain him while he fights back is "brutal", that's just...their job. Technically a cop's job is brutal by nature, but police brutality is usually used to describe unjust scenarios.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.change.org/petitions/justice-for-ethan-governor-martin-o-malley-we-need-an-independent-investigation-and-training-for-police?alert_id=rwTJzWGHBa_AGwnYFJwQp&utm_campaign=31925&utm_medium=email&utm_source=action_alert[/url] read that and tell me it doesn't sound both brutal and unjust
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[QUOTE=butre;41957434]another source: [url]http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-27/local/38068610_1_robert-ethan-saylor-autopsy-report-three-deputies[/url] this seems to imply that he was getting violent It's not unheard of for very fat people to have trouble breathing while handcuffed, the fact that he was prone rather than sitting up compounded the issue, and if he had DS he probably also had other defects that compounded the issue even more. It wasn't homicide, it wasn't even manslaughter. It's very clearly an accidental death.[/QUOTE] The issue is that all these cops were [b]off-duty[/b] and were moonlighting as security guards. This doesn't grant them the same special privileges because of this.
[QUOTE=Fangz;41958730]The issue is that all these cops were [b]off-duty[/b] and were moonlighting as security guards. This doesn't grant them the same special privileges because of this.[/QUOTE] off duty police officers can arrest people all they want.
[QUOTE=butre;41958760]off duty police officers can arrest people all they want.[/QUOTE] They have the power of a civilian arrest, but they can't use force off duty.
[QUOTE=Fangz;41958775]They have the power of a civilian arrest, but they can't use force off duty.[/QUOTE] they didn't use force
[QUOTE=butre;41958813]they didn't use force[/QUOTE] One deputy pulled Ethan from his seat and began struggling with him. Then two more off-duty deputies joined in, wrestling Ethan and trying to handcuff him. Then they "took him down," falling in a heap with Ethan at the bottom. Witnesses say they could hear him crying and calling for our mom. Then he stopped breathing and went into cardiac arrest. In just a few moments he was dead - eventually ruled a homicide by asphyxiation.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;41958847]One deputy pulled Ethan from his seat and began struggling with him. Then two more off-duty deputies joined in, wrestling Ethan and trying to handcuff him. Then they "took him down," falling in a heap with Ethan at the bottom. Witnesses say they could hear him crying and calling for our mom. Then he stopped breathing and went into cardiac arrest. In just a few moments he was dead - eventually ruled a homicide by asphyxiation.[/QUOTE] [quote]“At some point while restrained and prone, he stopped struggling and was noticed to be unresponsive by the deputies,” the report says. “At some point they rolled him over and could not find a pulse, took the handcuffs off and started chest compressions.”[/quote] they weren't strangling him
you said they didn't use force
[QUOTE=Fangz;41958775]They have the power of a civilian arrest, but they can't use force off duty.[/QUOTE] Force is necessary to get someone out of a place they aren't allowed to be in, if they were security guards then I don't see why they wouldn't be allowed to do anything they needed to fix issues?
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;41958872]you said they didn't use force[/QUOTE] restraining someone isn't using force.
[QUOTE=butre;41959196]restraining someone isn't using force.[/QUOTE] 1.strength or energy as an attribute of physical action or movement. Restraining someone is def. force
[QUOTE=EnlightenDead;41959215]1.strength or energy as an attribute of physical action or movement. Restraining someone is def. force[/QUOTE] I'm talking law, you're talking physics. surely even you are smart enough to know the difference.
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