• Man Gets 18 weeks prison for trolling facebook memorial pages.
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Post control to the extreme, perhaps? While I can see him being punished, such as niced size fine, but not jail time, he'll just be another waste of resources in an already strained system. [QUOTE=R3mix;25724336]Don't agree at all. So much for " Freedom of Speech. " And for those of you who are going to take initiative and rate me dumb, let me just hearken upon you for one minute here. Facebook allows you to block and ignore users for a reason. At the bottom of their website it says it is a [b]PRIVATE[/b] network. (European Convention on Human Rights - look it up)[/QUOTE] Freedom of speech doesn't apply to the internet or harassment, broski.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;25724531]Post control to the extreme, perhaps? While I can see him being punished, such as niced size fine, but not jail time, he'll just be another waste of resources in an already strained system. Freedom of speech doesn't apply to the internet or harassment, broski.[/QUOTE] Doesn't apply to the internet? What are you on?
Trolling on facebook? JAIL! Shit like this: [img]http://laist.com/attachments/la_zach/westboro_oscar_protest.jpg[/img] No penalty. Great job!
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;25724531]Freedom of speech doesn't apply to the internet or harassment, broski.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but.. - Who created the internet? - Who created your OS System? - Who created Human Rights? - Who signed off on Human Rights? - The internet has NO actual laws directed to itself ( to my knowledge on USA and UK Laws), therefore it must apply to modern world laws made by your country. - Freedom of Speech DOES Apply to EVERYONE and EVERYWHERE, please read up on your HUMAN RIGHTS. - Read the post above yours about Civil Suit matters concerning Harassment.
[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;25724581]Trolling on fecebook? JAIL! Shit like this: [img_thumb]http://laist.com/attachments/la_zach/westboro_oscar_protest.jpg[/img_thumb] No penalty. Great job, America![/QUOTE] It's funny how these die-hard Christians say God hates America, Fags, etc...That's pretty much blasphemy right there, God doesn't hate anybody. Those people are freaking stupid.
[QUOTE=R3mix;25724336]Don't agree at all. So much for " Freedom of Speech. " [/QUOTE] The "Freedom of Speech" bullshit you see in America is nothing but bullshit. To allow plain hate speech due to "freedom of speech" is just bullshit. So glad that almost no one else in the world follows America and what they do with "freedom of speech" like gospel.
[QUOTE=faze;25724446]Yep, he was saying he fucked their dead bodies. That is harassment my friends, not "freedom of speech."[/QUOTE] Apparently claiming you had sex with something is harassment now wow
[QUOTE=DogGunn;25724658]The "Freedom of Speech" bullshit you see in America is nothing but bullshit. To allow plain hate speech due to "freedom of speech" is just bullshit. So glad that almost no one else in the world follows America and what they do with "freedom of speech" like gospel.[/QUOTE] Defamation of Character =/= Freedom of Speech Again, Civil Court case matter. The more you know... :science:
But god can do anything, god said no anal, god said no meat on friday... blah blah blah wrath bah gawdm plagues etc etc :bahgawd:
[QUOTE=R3mix;25724583]I'm sorry, but.. - The internet has NO actual laws directed to itself ( to my knowledge on USA and UK Laws), therefore it must apply to modern world laws made by your country. [/QUOTE] Exactly, there are no real laws governing that which is said on the internet, and therefore is at the discretion of the site administrator. Who can limit as much speech as they want, ergo, free speech does not apply [as a whole] to the internet. Until we really could reach an international consensus on internet freedoms, laws, and control, it's still a frontier governed by anarchy.
[QUOTE=longears34;25724677]Apparently claiming you had sex with something is harassment now wow[/QUOTE] So you don't agree that posting shit like that on memorial pages, where the family of the deceased can see? How would you like if your mother died and some random person posted on there "I fucked her dead body." $10 bucks says you're full of it.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;25724690]Exactly, there are no real laws governing that which is said on the internet, and therefore is at the discretion of the site administrator. Who can limit as much speech as they want, ergo, free speech does not apply [as a whole] to the internet. Until we really could reach an international consensus on internet freedoms, laws, and control, it's still a frontier governed by anarchy.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.facebook.com/terms.php?ref=pf[/url] [url]http://www.facebook.com/privacy/explanation.php[/url] [url]http://www.facebook.com/principles.php[/url] They pretty much follow Modern US Laws. [b]Section 18. "# 10.) You will comply with all applicable laws when using or accessing Facebook." [/b] [b]Section 14. "Termination If you violate the letter or spirit of this Statement, or otherwise create risk or possible legal exposure for us, we can stop providing all or part of Facebook to you. We will notify you by email or at the next time you attempt to access your account. You may also delete your account or disable your application at any time. In all such cases, this Statement shall terminate, but the following provisions will still apply: 2.2, 2.4, 3-5, 8.2, 9.1-9.3, 9.9, 9.10, 9.13, 9.15, 9.18, 10.3, 11.2, 11.5, 11.6, 11.9, 11.12, 11.13, and 14-18."[/b] [b]Section 5. "Protecting Other People's Rights We respect other people's rights, and expect you to do the same. 1. You will not post content or take any action on Facebook that infringes or violates someone else's rights or otherwise violates the law."[/b]
[QUOTE=R3mix;25724680]Defamation of Character =/= Freedom of Speech Again, Civil Court case matter. The more you know... :science:[/QUOTE] No, I'm not talking about defamation. I'm talking about criminal action - something American's wouldn't understand. It's wrong to allow anything to be said under "freedom of speech". Freedom of speech is generally an out of date practice. Freedom of political communication should be your right, not freedom of speech.
[QUOTE=R3mix;25724734][url]http://www.facebook.com/terms.php?ref=pf[/url] [url]http://www.facebook.com/privacy/explanation.php[/url] They pretty much follow Modern US Laws.[/QUOTE] Modern US laws? Try modern laws of western society.
[QUOTE=faze;25724695]So you don't agree that posting shit like that on memorial pages, where the family of the deceased can see? How would you like if your mother died and some random person posted on there "I fucked her dead body." $10 bucks says you're full of it.[/QUOTE] Well for one I wouldn't give a shit because it's the internet and I'm aware it's full of trolls and asses, second I don't really take internet insults very seriously and it's unlikely that they even fucked her dead body by the way I fucked your great great grandparents dead bodies you gonna get the cops at my door now? are you offended?
[QUOTE=longears34;25724787]Well for one I wouldn't give a shit because it's the internet and I'm aware it's full of trolls and asses, second I don't really take internet insults very seriously and it's unlikely that they even fucked her dead body[/quote] That'd only be relevant if you were the only person on the internet, but you're not.
[QUOTE=longears34;25724787]Well for one I wouldn't give a shit because it's the internet and I'm aware it's full of trolls and asses, second I don't really take internet insults very seriously and it's unlikely that they even fucked her dead body by the way I fucked your great great grandparents dead bodies[/QUOTE] You just don't get it. Stop posting.
[QUOTE=longears34;25724787]Well for one I wouldn't give a shit because it's the internet and I'm aware it's full of trolls and asses, second I don't really take internet insults very seriously and it's unlikely that they even fucked her dead body [/QUOTE] Not sure if you're aware, and by the looks of it, you're not: There are normal people on the internet who are offended by people shitting on their family when they are grieving.
[QUOTE=Doriol;25724830]Not sure if you're aware, and by the looks of it, you're not: There are normal people on the internet who are offended by people shitting on their family when they are grieving.[/QUOTE] Exactly. Some people don't go online and expect trolls, especially when grieving for the loss of a loved one. This guy apparently has no concern for anyone but himself. (Talking about longears34, not the guy that was jailed.)
[QUOTE=DogGunn;25724744]No, I'm not talking about defamation. I'm talking about criminal action - something American's wouldn't understand. It's wrong to allow anything to be said under "freedom of speech". Freedom of speech is generally an out of date practice. Freedom of political communication should be your right, not freedom of speech.[/QUOTE] Your opinion =/= Law Also, read my post above this one of yours concerning Facebook law. [QUOTE=faze;25724747]Modern US laws? Try modern laws of western society.[/QUOTE] Pretty much for the most part.
[QUOTE=R3mix;25724860]Your opinion =/= Law Also, read my post above this one of yours concerning Facebook law.[/QUOTE] Thanks for pointing it out, but obviously in this case, it is the law... in the UK. It doesn't matter what Facebook says, there are laws governing the use of the internet in almost every country, including the one which this guy has had sanctions enforced on him.
[QUOTE=Doriol;25724830]Not sure if you're aware, and by the looks of it, you're not: There are normal people on the internet who are offended by people shitting on their family when they are grieving.[/QUOTE] I'm offended by random people I don't know in any way shape or form insulting me while I'm grieving because that makes me special!!!!
[QUOTE=longears34;25724938]I'm offended by random people I don't know in any way shape or form insulting me while I'm grieving because that makes me special!!!![/QUOTE] Get out of your mother's basement.
[QUOTE=longears34;25724938]I'm offended by random people I don't know in any way shape or form insulting me while I'm grieving because that makes me special!!!![/QUOTE] You don't fucking get it. He was doing this obsessively. Fuck, why am I trying to reason with a 12 year old?
[QUOTE=longears34;25724938]I'm offended by random people I don't know in any way shape or form insulting me while I'm grieving because that makes me special!!!![/QUOTE] It's funny because you're special.
I'm glad hes getting jail time. Theres always freedom of speech, but harassing bereaved families and friends is just going too far.
[QUOTE=bravehat;25724218]I don't see why people cared about Jade Goody anyway. Sure her family and friends yeah, but she had a better fucking turn out for her funeral than princess fucking Di. Seriously, look it's fucking ridiculous that some asshat who went on big cunting brother gets as much fucking publicity as she did. [img_thumb]http://www1.pictures.fp.zimbio.com/Jade+Goody+Funeral+Procession+07W0PGr0Lcsl.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Before she carked it Diana was getting VERY unpopular. People thought she was going mad. On the day she died there was an article in the Mail that went "now we know why Prince Charles talks to plants... he gets more sense out of them than the fruit he married". When Jade Goody died she got a lot of sympathy because her death was drawn out, so we knew she was going to die beforehand.
Wow, jail time is way over the line. Any kind of legal action is over the line.
[QUOTE=faze;25724970]You don't fucking get it. He was doing this obsessively. [/QUOTE] where does it say this, also irrelevant
[QUOTE=GunFox;25725062]Wow, jail time is way over the line. Any kind of legal action is over the line.[/QUOTE] Meh, I dunno. Doesn't say how long and how much he was doing this exactly. But again, harassment is harassment... [editline]29th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=longears34;25725067]where does it say this, also irrelevant[/QUOTE] If he was throw in jail, it's kind of implied. Again, you don't get it.
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