Man Gets 18 weeks prison for trolling facebook memorial pages. - Polidicks

To Capitulazyguy: Yeah and princess diani fucking poured money into mine clearing in africa and other charities. All this baldy fucker done was die and sell her death to some fucking womans weekly cunting rags.

[QUOTE=d3450;25724356]Possibly the stupidest reason to go to jail :colbert:[/QUOTE] Ahahaha, it's funny because stupidest isn't a word.

[QUOTE=GunFox;25725062]Wow, jail time is way over the line. Any kind of legal action is over the line.[/QUOTE] Then what would be your preferred method of having something like this stopped from happening again in the future? There has to be some form of retribution - what would you recommend?

[QUOTE=DogGunn;25724912]Thanks for pointing it out, but obviously in this case, it is the law... in the UK. It doesn't matter what Facebook says, there are laws governing the use of the internet in almost every country, including the one which this guy has had sanctions enforced on him.[/QUOTE] So in the UK You're saying... people who harass others are taken to prison rather than placed under law suit in a civil court case matter? [QUOTE=DogGunn;25725099]Then what would be your preferred method of having something like this stopped from happening again in the future? There has to be some form of retribution - what would you recommend?[/QUOTE] Civil Law Suit.

[QUOTE=R3mix;25725107]So in the UK You're saying... people who harass others are taken to prison rather than placed under law suit in a civil court case matter?[/QUOTE] No one ever commended the judicial system...anywhere.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;25725099]Then what would be your preferred method of having something like this stopped from happening again in the future? There has to be some form of retribution - what would you recommend?[/QUOTE] This is a civil suit. [QUOTE=R3mix;25725107]Civil Law Suit.[/QUOTE] As apparently this fine gentleman has already pointed out.

[QUOTE=faze;25725116]No one ever commended the judicial system...anywhere.[/QUOTE] What?

[QUOTE=R3mix;25725107]So in the UK You're saying... people who harass others are taken to prison rather than placed under law suit in a civil court case matter?[/QUOTE] Yes. There'd be no way to apply a civil law suit (slander) as there has been no economic loss as a result of the baseless claims. Allowing hateful crap like this shouldn't be done under the banner of "freedom of speech". [QUOTE=R3mix;25725107]Civil Law Suit.[/QUOTE] I'll guess that you misread the part where it said: "Any kind of legal action is over the line"? [editline]30th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=GunFox;25725130]This is a civil suit.[/QUOTE] Not in the UK, and it's not really an answer to the question.

Why the fuck was he jailed for 18 weeks?

And the beginning of the age of arrests for what you say on the web begins..

[QUOTE=starpluck;25725247]Why the fuck was he jailed for 18 weeks?[/QUOTE] [quote]He was jailed for 18 weeks for sending "malicious communications".[/quote] It's probably only a tiny percentage of the maximum punishment for the crime.

Time and time again people have proven that the Internet indeed is, serious business.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;25725149]Yes. There'd be no way to apply a civil law suit (slander) as there has been no economic loss as a result of the baseless claims.[/quote] UK civil law, like US civil law, allows for general damages. Emotional trauma falls under that category. If they haven't suffered sufficient emotional trauma to win a civil case, then they should definitely NEVER win a legal case. [quote]Allowing hateful crap like this shouldn't be done under the banner of "freedom of speech".[/quote] Yes. Yes it should. The alternative is for the government to determine what is "hateful" and what isn't. Which would defeat the entire point. This is a civil case. [quote]Not in the UK, and it's not really an answer to the question.[/QUOTE] Yes it is an answer to the question. A civil suit would indeed be incentive to stop his course of action.

[QUOTE=GunFox;25725315] Yes. Yes it should. The alternative is for the government to determine what is "hateful" and what isn't. Which would defeat the entire point. This is a civil case.[/QUOTE] Right, but it's not the government's place to be stating its opinion.

Arrested for trolling? Really?

Just wait till you get arrested for talking about political disapproval of candidates. The US already uses ECHELON (if you don't know, google it) to find and arrest people who make comments about wanting to punch out the pres. and things of that nature. With obama asking for more power over the internet, who knows what's gonna come next.

This is bordering on fascism. Should have been a civil case.

[QUOTE=faze;25725336]Right, but it's not the government's place to be stating its opinion.[/QUOTE] isn't that what I said?

[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;25725352]Just wait till you get arrested for talking about political disapproval of candidates. The US already uses ECHELON (if you don't know, google it) to find and arrest people who make comments about wanting to punch out the pres. and things of that nature. With obama asking for more power of the internet, who knows what's gonna come next.[/QUOTE] More power from the internet? They're trying to censor it for fuck sakes... [editline]29th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=GunFox;25725366]isn't that what I said?[/QUOTE] Right, just clarifying for certain folk.

[QUOTE=CheeserCrice;25724246]didn't realise it was huge :([/QUOTE] not [B]that[/B] huge

[QUOTE=faze;25725368]More power from the internet? They're trying to censor it for fuck sakes... [/QUOTE] As well as establish a system for universal internet shutdown in the event of national catastrophe. Or civil war, whatever is more convenient for them I guess.

[QUOTE=GunFox;25725315]UK civil law, like US civil law, allows for general damages. Emotional trauma falls under that category. [/QUOTE] To get any sort of damages, you have to prove a wrong. If it be negligence, libel, slander or any other civil wrong. There's no civil wrong for "emotional trauma". It only comes into play in determining the amount of damages to be awarded, otherwise, it has no purpose (of which general damages are only one type of damages). [QUOTE=GunFox;25725315]The alternative is for the government to determine what is "hateful" and what isn't. Which would defeat the entire point. This is a civil case.[/quote] You're getting a little confused. The government is part of the legislature, and the courts, who are in question in this decision, are the judiciary. They are completely separate, thanks to the separation of powers. Just because the government creates legislation which may criminally punish someone for hateful stuff, doesn't mean the government gets to decide what is hateful. Most likely a selection of their peers would. [QUOTE=GunFox;25725315]Yes it is an answer to the question. A civil suit would indeed be incentive to stop his course of action.[/QUOTE] I have no idea about the US, but I know a fair amount about Australia (and most likely the UK, due to very similar legal systems) - a civil case would most likely not be heard on an issue like this.

[QUOTE=Ultra Violence;25724341]And yet no one jails those cocks at Westboro when they troll around funerals of gay Marines? Our justice system is all kinds of fucked up.[/QUOTE] The only reason why our justice system is fucked up is because it's law over morals. Which angers me greatly because then you have a justice system where asshats can pull off shit like that.

That guy is a fucking asshole but to jail him? Stupid.

[QUOTE=DamagePoint;25725357]This is bordering on fascism. Should have been a civil case.[/QUOTE] Exactly my rationale.

It's actually pretty interesting seeing that the majority of the people who don't agree with the decision to enforce criminal sactions are American.

[QUOTE=faze;25724184]Finally, some justice. This needs to happen on Facepunch.[/QUOTE] if you think cyberbullying and trolling on a forum are grounds for imprisoning somebody then you need to get the hell off the internet because it's obvious you're too sensitive and emotionally vulnerable to handle a few big bad mean spiwited words boo fucking hoo get over it you wuss

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;25725600]if you think cyberbullying and trolling on a forum are grounds for imprisoning somebody then you need to get the hell off the internet because it's obvious you're too sensitive and emotionally vulnerable to handle a little bit of teasing. boo fucking hoo get over it you wuss[/QUOTE] Yeah, there's nothing like reading hateful letters after a family member / close friend / loved one has just passed away. What a wuss. What about trolling on Facebook?

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;25725600]if you think cyberbullying and trolling on a forum are grounds for imprisoning somebody then you need to get the hell off the internet because it's obvious you're too sensitive and emotionally vulnerable to handle a few big bad mean spiwited words boo fucking hoo get over it you wuss[/QUOTE] No, I just have a conscience.

This reminds me of the guy who posted pics of an FBI tracking device on his car he found on reddit - within hours the fbi were at his door asking for it back. Simply because he was from the middle east.