Sweden: Man falls down on subway tracks - gets robbed instead of helped. - Polidicks

Coolio Robbed Of His Jewelry After Failed Stage Dive [editline]16th September 2012[/editline] o h lol we're talking about immigrants now cool

[video=youtube;duwh4ZuKbsA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duwh4ZuKbsA[/video] Starts at about ~0:50

[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;37675301]Go and try to live on a surburb crowded by immigrants, illegals or not. Sounds like you never did. Go tell your girlfriend to always have teargas on her bag and never to wear anything like shorts or dresses unless she wants to be harassed by the same fucking idiots daily until she eventually gets raped (it's almost like rape became common there), experience the fear of living there when you're a white kid who's not really muscular and don't want any trouble. Then I'll let you give us lessons. It's not about their skin color or religion, it's about their behavior, which is fucking terrible. It's easy being all for immigration and cultural melting-pot when you're living in a rich suburb. The people who ends up being racist didn't just become like that because they hate their new neighbors' skin color.[/QUOTE] Uh. I've lived in one of Sweden's most immigrant-populated suburbs my entire life (well, I moved two weeks ago for university), I'm a white kid and I'm not muscular, but I haven't felt the fear you describe? I've never been robbed, I've never been assaulted. Not that I deny that there are issues in these areas (but they are rooted in social problems rather than differences in cultures), but honestly, you make it sound like you're guarenteed to be robbed or beaten if you're white. That's completely untrue, you are as likely to be robbed regardless of your skin colour. To me, it sounds like you're the white kid living in a rich suburb.

[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;37686462]Yes hello Although moving to Sumpan in a week.[/QUOTE] Sweet, wish I could move out of this shithole.

[QUOTE=Ond kaja;37686529]Uh. I've lived in one of Sweden's most immigrant-populated suburbs my entire life (well, I moved two weeks ago for university), I'm a white kid and I'm not muscular, but I haven't felt the fear you describe? I've never been robbed, I've never been assaulted. Not that I deny that there are issues in these areas (but they are rooted in social problems rather than differences in cultures), but honestly, you make it sound like you're guarenteed to be robbed or beaten if you're white. That's completely untrue, you are as likely to be robbed regardless of your skin colour. To me, it sounds like you're the white kid living in a rich suburb.[/QUOTE] I lived pretty much most of my life in a suburb of Marseille, I've been living only 3 years in a quiet rural area until I got in Bordeaux a few days ago for my studies. Simple and easy : if you're white and aren't one of their friend, you're guaranteed to be insulted every god damn time you take a walk outside, they don't give a shit about the law, most of them already had several problems with the police and always are let free. I couldn't care less about them being black or arab, hell, since I'm out of this city I met absolutely awesome dudes whose parents are immigrants. In France everyone has access to school, college and all the education you need to get a proper job for free if you can't afford it. Some take advantage of it and end up making a living, but most nowadays just don't give a shit, become bullies until they drop out of school. I had to experience that, and I'm only glad I haven't become one of those racists idiots who just want to get rid of every arab or black dude, I just think we should just send back those who claim they "want to fuck the shit out of france because Algeria or Morroco is so fucking much better" in their country of origin, or at the very least, be more strict and send them to jail. And yes, some white people who have always been French can be exactly like that aswell, once again, doesn't matter the skin color, fuck them and let them rot in jail. Because while we're being all "oh they're just kids we need to help them instead of teaching them the law", people are getting robbed, beatten or raped. I have sources that can prove my point stands on a national level, they're in French, but if you really want to take a look at them and google translation isn't doing a good job, I'll be glad to translate the keypoints : [url]http://www.uni.asso.fr/spip.php?article10146[/url] [url]http://www.lepoint.fr/politique/election-presidentielle-2012/vrai-faux/l-immigration-est-elle-un-facteur-d-echec-scolaire-25-05-2011-1335044_370.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Ond kaja;37686529](but they are rooted in social problems rather than differences in cultures)[/QUOTE] lol How do you explain the fact that Sweden has the highest incidence of reported rapes in Europe and one of the highest in the world? Are you saying just because these people are broke they go and rape Swedish women? That doesn't make sense. I think it is more about an underlying hate and disrespect against Swedes. Swedes are too open-minded for their own good and immigrants who are used to rougher society take advantage of that. In lack of a greater perspective they act in a selfish, greedy and sometimes hateful manner.

[QUOTE=Hellsten;37687063] How do you explain the fact that Sweden has the highest incidence of reported rapes in Europe and one of the highest in the world? Are you saying just because these people are broke they go and rape Swedish women? That doesn't make sense. I think it is more about an underlying hate and disrespect against Swedes.[/quote]You can't compare rape statistics from different countries because the laws that define rape are different from country to country. A jurisdiction where one thing is defined as rape might be defined as sexual assault in another country. You can't really draw any conclusions from comparing apples and pears... But yes, poor people are more likely to be introduced to criminality, this is an undisuptable fact. Regardless of what culture, religion, skin colour, ethnicity you're looking at, you will find that the lower classes will always be more criminal than those who have good social standards. Immigrants often come from poor backrounds, and are then placed in poor areas, it's not really surprising why they are more likely to become criminal. And, why do you only focus on rape where Swedish women are victims, is it because you think that immigrants don't get raped, or is it because you don't feel any empathy with rape victims from other cultures. [quote] Swedes are too open-minded for their own good and immigrants who are used to rougher society take advantage of that. In lack of a greater perspective they act in a selfish, greedy and sometimes hateful manner.[/QUOTE] Okay, so what problems does close-mindedness solve? To me, it sounds like inciting hate and racism leads to more problems than it solves.

[QUOTE=Ond kaja;37687323]You can't compare rape statistics from different countries because the laws that define rape are different from country to country. A jurisdiction where one thing is defined as rape might be defined as sexual assault in another country. You can't really draw any conclusions from comparing apples and pears...[/QUOTE] What are you even talking about? The reason I mentioned the rape statistics is because they have drastically accelerated with the mass-immigration. [QUOTE=Ond kaja;37687323]And, why do you only focus on rape where Swedish women are victims, is it because you think that immigrants don't get raped, or is it because you don't feel any empathy with rape victims from other cultures.[/QUOTE] Because the majority of rape victims are Swedish women, and the majority of rapists are immigrants. Those are the hard facts.

[QUOTE=Hellsten;37687374]What are you even talking about? The reason I mentioned the rape statistics is because they have drastically accelerated with the mass-immigration.[/quote]Yeah, because an influx of poor people don't create social problems at all... [quote] Because the majority of rape victims are Swedish women, and the majority of rapists are immigrants. Those are the hard facts.[/QUOTE] The majority of women in Sweden are Swedish, and the majority of rapists come from poor backrounds, those are hard facts.

[QUOTE=Ond kaja;37687385]The majority of women in Sweden are Swedish, and the majority of rapists come from poor backrounds, those are hard facts.[/QUOTE] Why do you overlook something that is so obvious. These rapists target Swedish women because of hate. And would you rape somebody just because you grew up in poverty? [editline]16th September 2012[/editline] A man in a suit walks into a bank. -You're bankrupt, says the banker. -Oh well, time to rape somebody.

[QUOTE=Hellsten;37687422]Why do you overlook something that is so obvious. These rapists target Swedish women because of hate. And would you rape somebody just because you grew up in poverty?[/QUOTE] Apparently you haven't studied psychology. A human adapts to his environment, and if his environment is troubled, she will be more likely to be a troubles individual as well. Also, it is not unlikely that hate towards Swedes is also rooted in social problems. That aside, you didn't answer my question. You said Swedes are "too open-minded for their own good". I'm still wondering, what problems would close-mindedness solve? Would it decrease the amount of rape victims; would it solve the underlying problems that leads to criminality?

Obviously a smaller immigration and a tougher attitude against rape would decrease the amount of rape victims. An instant deportation of criminal immigrants would definitively make them respect us. [editline]16th September 2012[/editline] It should set an example and let others know that such behavior is not accepted here.

[QUOTE=Hellsten;37687554]Obviously a smaller immigration and a tougher attitude against rape would decrease the amount of rape victims. An instant deportation of criminal immigrants would definitively make them respect us. [editline]16th September 2012[/editline] It should set an example and let others know that such behavior is not accepted here.[/QUOTE] Even if they're already naturalized citizens or permanent residents?

[QUOTE=Hellsten;37687554]Obviously a smaller immigration and a tougher attitude against rape would decrease the amount of rape victims. An instant deportation of criminal immigrants would definitively make them respect us. [editline]16th September 2012[/editline] It should set an example and let others know that such behavior is not accepted here.[/QUOTE] That's not really close-mindedness, nor does rape happen because it is somehow "accepted" by open-minded people. Incitement is largely unaffected by tougher penalties (which I assume you mean having a "tougher attitude against rape". Again, social issues are the underlying factor that lead to criminality and in order to properly combat criminality you have to attack the causes, not the symtoms.

[QUOTE=Jack Trades;37662620]One piece of statistic for example is that 100%(!) of all rapes in Oslo during 2007, 2008, and 2009 were commuted by criminals with non-Western background. What kind of conclusion does that lead to?[/QUOTE] lol. that's because reporting and investigation rates are way higher when the suspect is of foreign descent. 80% of rape cases never reach the courts - guess what - which usually involve swedish males as perpetrators! :) [editline]16th September 2012[/editline] i find it mind boggling how the same way you guys are talking about arabs is the same way that americans have talked about latinos and blacks in this country for decades and yet somehow it's totally different for you and it suddenly becomes not racist but god forbid the second an american says the exact same thing about someone it's systematic racism nah, scandinavians could never be racist never!

[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;37661917]that's incredibly smart how come people never thought of it in the west[/QUOTE] We've been intending to build these for years, but for some reason it's never done.

I feel ashamed for having a blue shirt as my avatar.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;37655059] [QUOTE=Eric95;37654880]They can speak perfect swedish, they just choose not to.[/QUOTE] the nerve! we have these "coloreds" here in america.. always robbing us white folk and refusing to speak proper english.. i'm not being racist people i'm stating facts.. come to america and you'll see (this is what you sound like)[/QUOTE] Just to clarify, the reason I said that was so that you guys wouldn't think I was criticising their natural accents or not being very good at swedish.

Also, the guy confessed a couple of hours ago.

-snip- I'm late.

[QUOTE=BrickInHead;37687955]lol. that's because reporting and investigation rates are way higher when the suspect is of foreign descent. 80% of rape cases never reach the courts - guess what - which usually involve swedish males as perpetrators! :) [editline]16th September 2012[/editline] i find it mind boggling how the same way you guys are talking about arabs is the same way that americans have talked about latinos and blacks in this country for decades and yet somehow it's totally different for you and it suddenly becomes not racist but god forbid the second an american says the exact same thing about someone it's systematic racism nah, scandinavians could never be racist never![/QUOTE] A friend of mine told that a therapist she knows who deals with anorexic people and rape victims said that a majority of the raped women she dealt with have been raped by foreigners.

People immigrates to a better country just for a better life for their kids, but a very small group of immigrants fuck all that shit up and start doing shit and this lead to unemployment and poorness. I also blame the politicians for misbehaving and placing all immigrants in a town instead of spreading them out so they can socialize with Swedes. I guess its too late for all that. Immigrants just have to take all shit that comes at them because of a small group who fucked it up.

Turns out this robber is an illegal immigrant with no ID. In questioning he claims he is Nadar Khiari, 28 years old and native to Tunisia. Hopefully he gets deported, but it is more probable he won't. [editline]17th September 2012[/editline] A paperless immigrant, an asylum seeker. Supposed to be enriching Sweden, but destined to live here at the taxpayers expense. This foreign entrepreneur has helped drunk Swedes to get rid of possessions that he needs better. The far left should organize a torchlight procession in support of him. He is wholly innocent. He just did what he could to save Johnny's wallet from getting run over by the train, at least that he should be praised for.

[QUOTE=Hellsten;37698264]A paperless immigrant, an asylum seeker. Supposed to be enriching Sweden, but destined to live here at the taxpayers expense. This foreign entrepreneur has helped drunk Swedes to get rid of possessions that he needs better. The far left should organize a torchlight procession in support of him. He is wholly innocent. He just did what he could to save Johnny's wallet from getting run over by the train, at least that he should be praised for.[/QUOTE] What if he had been given asylum and been allowed to participate in integration programs? How long did he live in a society with insufficient integration of immigrants that gave many of them the kind of mentality he is displaying? [editline]17th September 2012[/editline] There is no doubt that what he did was despicable, but it's important to note the social causes that led to his lifestyle so that the problem can be overcome. Saying that he should be deported doesn't solve the root cause of the issue.

Still, after doing crimes he should not be rewarded with residence permit.

And he won't. If we are trying deporting kids and 80 year old grannies, then it'd be reasonable for him not being allowed to stay here.

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;37651358]I love how absolutely xenophobic pretty much all of europe is towards muslims It's disgusting[/QUOTE] You realize what you just said is actually stereotyping and discriminatory towards Europe...?

[QUOTE=ThePinkPanzer;37654522]A small minority hate you, so you stereotype all of them? This is how racial crimes happen.[/QUOTE] Racial crimes are group effort of putting the cream of the retarded front and center, and then other races "finest" inbreds deciding that "if one guy from a race is scum they all must be" then proceding to take a dump on collective human values.

Wow... What is our world coming to? :suicide:

[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;37697836]A friend of mine told that a therapist she knows who deals with anorexic people and rape victims said that a majority of the raped women she dealt with have been raped by foreigners.[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/ACT77/001/2010/en]sweden has a bad history of being extremely ineffective when it comes to trying rape properly[/url]; they've created a culture of impunity. but that's when it comes to swedish nationals. when it comes to trying immigrants, they're fucking great at it. this is why people who end up going to court and in therapy tend to be the people who were raped by foreigners. people who get raped by national report it substantially less because of aforementioned impunity.