US National Guard troops deployed at Mexico border - Polidicks

[QUOTE=italics560;24184936]not to be rude, ignorant, or an asshole. But being poor and shit doesn't give you a pass to illegally come into the US and mooch off it because you want "a better life". Get your passports and do it leagaly. Because if you get caught your ass gets deported, and nobody gives a shit if you just want a better life for your family. Its the same fucking thing as if you lived in a large mansion some ghetto ass couple decides to start living in your backyard. EDIT: why the fuck do I always put the fucking apostrophe in want? wan't=wrong-----want=right[/QUOTE] You realize that it can take YEARS to get into the US

[QUOTE=DrBreen;24224630]You realize that it can take YEARS to get into the US[/QUOTE] Then wait, don't come in illegally.

[QUOTE=Ragy;24224776]Then wait, don't come in illegally.[/QUOTE] you act as if this problem can be fixed by telling illegals to "pfft deal w/ it" maybe we should fix our broken immigration system that takes years upon years to get in and we won't have so many illegals not bothering with it.

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;24224833]you act as if this problem can be fixed by telling illegals to "pfft deal w/ it" maybe we should fix our broken immigration system that takes years upon years to get in and we won't have so many illegals not bothering with it.[/QUOTE] Sure, lets all break the laws we don't agree with. If they want to live here, deal with it and come in legally.

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;24224833]you act as if this problem can be fixed by telling illegals to "pfft deal w/ it"[/QUOTE] This is how most conservatives act because they're incapable of putting themselves in another person's shoes. It's easy for a white suburban kid to just say, "deal with it. too bad, they're criminals." [editline]09:37PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Ragy;24224854]Sure, lets all break the laws we don't agree with. If they want to live here, deal with it and come in legally.[/QUOTE] My point proven.

[QUOTE=Ragy;24224854]Sure, lets all break the laws we don't agree with. If they want to live here, deal with it and come in legally.[/QUOTE] how about we tell them to do that once our system doesn't involve jumping through an insane amount of hoops and maybe they will deal with it.

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;24224885]how about we tell them to do that once our system doesn't involve jumping through an insane amount of hoops and maybe they will deal with it.[/QUOTE] How about they stop breaking our laws if they want to live here so bad. Illegals are deported like they should be. No use here if they can't come in legally, because they can't respect our laws. [editline]01:46AM[/editline] [QUOTE=JDK721v2;24224857]This is how most conservatives act because they're incapable of putting themselves in another person's shoes. It's easy for a white suburban kid to just say, "deal with it. too bad, they're criminals."[/QUOTE] What is your problem with calling everyone a white suburban kid who doesn't agree with you? It's quite childish and immature really. :colbert:

[QUOTE=Ragy;24224948]What is your problem with calling everyone a white suburban kid who doesn't agree with you? It's quite childish and immature really. :colbert:[/QUOTE] I haven't even used those words for a pretty long time, so you're obviously talking out of your ass as usual.

[QUOTE=JDK721v2;24225446]I haven't even used those words for a pretty long time, so you're obviously talking out of your ass as usual.[/QUOTE] Yet you just did. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Ragy;24224948]How about they stop breaking our laws if they want to live here so bad. Illegals are deported like they should be. No use here if they can't come in legally, because they can't respect our laws. [editline]01:46AM[/editline] What is your problem with calling everyone a white suburban kid who doesn't agree with you? It's quite childish and immature really. :colbert:[/QUOTE] obviously there's something wrong with our immigration system if so many are not willing to go through it. sometimes laws need to be reformed, you know.

[QUOTE=Ragy;24225632]Yet you just did. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] Besides that incident you dumb fuck. Seriously, how hard is it to realize that obviously I meant besides this time. [editline]10:56PM[/editline] [QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;24226230]obviously there's something wrong with our immigration system if so many are not willing to go through it. sometimes laws need to be reformed, you know.[/QUOTE] There couldn't possibly be anything wrong with law. It's obviously the immigrants' (AKA criminals') faults for wanting a better life and not wanting to wait ten years to gain citizenship. :downs:

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;24226230]obviously there's something wrong with our immigration system if so many are not willing to go through it. sometimes laws need to be reformed, you know.[/QUOTE] Out immigration system is fine. Everything in the process is done to ensure your safety to who is coming into our country. There has to be a limit too. Obviously people are still crossing, because they don't want to go through legally. Put more guns on the border and shoot once crossed after warnings. Problem solved. Harsh, but it works. [editline]03:13AM[/editline] [QUOTE=JDK721v2;24226323]Besides that incident you dumb fuck. Seriously, how hard is it to realize that obviously I meant besides this time.[/QUOTE] Childish and immature again. Do you ever do anything, but throw insults?

[QUOTE=Ragy;24226670]Out immigration system is fine.[/QUOTE] I laughed. This is probably one of the dumbest statements that I've ever heard.

[QUOTE=JDK721v2;24226710]I laughed. This is probably one of the dumbest statements that I've ever heard.[/QUOTE] Good job ignoring the rest of my post. [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/emoot/ughh.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=Ragy;24226750]Good job ignoring the rest of my post. [IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/emoot/ughh.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] you mean the part where you said we should shoot people coming over the border? pretty psychotic bro.

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;24226807]you mean the part where you said we should shoot people coming over the border? pretty psychotic bro.[/QUOTE] What you call psychotic I call a way to fix a overdue problem.

[QUOTE=Ragy;24226832]What you call psychotic I call a way to fix a overdue problem.[/QUOTE] i didn't know shooting and killing people was a viable solution to any problem.

[QUOTE=Ragy;24226832]What you call psychotic I call a way to fix a overdue problem.[/QUOTE] So you want to just shoot people crossing the border? Talk about a disproportionate response. Are you some sort of sociopath when it comes to anyone with a darker skin tone?

[QUOTE=Ragy;24226832]What you call psychotic I call a way to fix a overdue problem.[/QUOTE] I want secure borders and all, but that's extreme even for me.

[QUOTE=Ragy;24226670]Problem solved. Harsh, but it works.[/QUOTE] The morgues down by the border are already full to the brim with people who didn't make it over due to the desert [i]without[/i] the help of gun toting rednecks. Also: Shooting people who walk wouldn't solve anything. You'd just kill the people who actually want to come over to work and live a better life, the drug smugglers and criminals would simply find other ways to get in, as they already have.

[QUOTE=JDK721v2;24224857]This is how most conservatives act because they're incapable of putting themselves in another person's shoes. It's easy for a white suburban kid to just say, "deal with it. too bad, they're criminals." [editline]09:37PM[/editline] My point proven.[/QUOTE] I'm certain there's more than a few liberals out there who don't want illegals coming in at the rate they are. Yes yes, they want a better life for themselves and their children, great. I would like a better life myself, but I don't go breaking laws to get it. That said I don't consider these people (the legitimate ones anyway) to be "criminals" per se. I understand why they're doing it, but I do not condone it. There are rules and procedures to follow, just as there are rules and procedures in place for me to acquire the better life that I strive for. Circumventing those procedures just causes problems.

[QUOTE=massn7;24227041]I'm certain there's more than a few liberals out there who don't want illegals coming in at the rate they are. Yes yes, they want a better life for themselves and their children, great. I would like a better life myself, but I don't go breaking laws to get it. That said I don't consider these people (the legitimate ones anyway) to be "criminals" per se. I understand why they're doing it, but I do not condone it. There are rules and procedures to follow, just as there are rules and procedures in place for me to acquire the better life that I strive for. Circumventing those procedures just causes problems.[/QUOTE] that's all well and good but our immigration system is fucking terrible and it's a pain in the ass to go through which is why so many people do it illegally, we need to fix our way of immigration first.

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;24227074]that's all well and good but our immigration system is fucking terrible and it's a pain in the ass to go through which is why so many people do it illegally, we need to fix our way of immigration first.[/QUOTE] When you're bleeding, do you wonder what drugs you should take for it, or do you bandage it up first to stop the flow? You bandage it up.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;24227092]When you're bleeding, do you wonder what drugs you should take for it, or do you bandage it up first to stop the flow? You bandage it up.[/QUOTE] immigration isn't something you just "bandage up".

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;24227140]immigration isn't something you just "bandage up".[/QUOTE] You can stop the flow at the border.

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;24227140]immigration isn't something you just "bandage up".[/QUOTE] Immigration reform is quite a daunting undertaking, wouldn't you say? Organizational restructuring, procedural changes, so on and so forth. It wouldn't happen overnight, so we need a temporary solution, the "bandage." Then we can work towards the overall reform.

[QUOTE=JDK721v2;24226889]So you want to just shoot people crossing the border? Talk about a disproportionate response. Are you some sort of sociopath when it comes to anyone with a darker skin tone?[/QUOTE] Why do you bring up skin tone when it has nothing to do with the problem? :colbert:

Just fix our immigration process and innocent illegals can get in legally. Flow chart is correct by the way. I'm a polish-mexican born offshore u.s. citizen and were trying to get my aunt and her family a green card pass to just visit us...we visit them every year. Waiting 4 years and counting. We do own a business down there for kicks. (cyber cafe) Fuck our legal process. Do I really deserve being here more then them? Just because I'm white and my mom marries an american were automatically better?

[QUOTE=Ragy;24227290]Why do you bring up skin tone when it has nothing to do with the problem? :colbert:[/QUOTE] Race is JDK's primary line of defense.

[QUOTE=italics560;24219155]late 19th and early 20th century!?!?!?!?! Dude, we exterminated the Indians, had some of the most racist police forces in the entire damn world, and so many other things I can't even think of right now![/QUOTE] Yeah people were racist back then I know that. What I meant is, in those days America was still the home of the free. Irish went there to escape British oppression, Protestants from all over Europe went there to escape Catholic oppression, Jews went there to escape oppression from just about everyone. And now Mexicans want to go there to escape the oppression of living in a country being torn apart by drug wars.