Woman facing civil rights lawsuit for seeking fellow christian roommate
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[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;25643158]Okay, I mock religion and what not regularly, but come on, why the fuck does a woman who OWNS a house need to be sued just for the criteria of room mate she's placed?[/QUOTE]
It's a law put in place to stop larger businesses, and smaller lessors (as they do make up a considerable amount of housing opportunities) from discriminating based on "ethnicity, religion, or handicap".
It definitely still happens where the lessee is discriminated based on those criteria, you just can't put it down in writing.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;25643251]So if I put up an ad for a roommate but forbid pets, does that infringe on animal rights?[/QUOTE]
are you serious
Hey maybe I don't want some religious goof ball living in my house, so would I get sued if I put "NON RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ONLY" in my ad?
municipal law always finds a way to butt into everyone's lives
There is a reason and a precedent for this law you know...
The law serves to disallow these people with good money from getting turned down because of their race or religion and I could easily see the use due to the strong hatred of Muslims I see now.
To put it in context this shit went on until about the 1970s for my family (the 1920s is about when my both grandparents came over):
Back when my grandparents first came to the united states (My Chinese grandfather and Costa Rican grandmother on opposite sides of the family) both had a lot of trouble finding residence because there were many signs that would say "No Spics, No Negros, No China-men, Pets ok" or something along those grounds. The only reason I'm here right now is because the Chinese community is very strong and tight in San Francisco (although finding a place outside Chinatown was hell even up into the 70s), and because my great-grandmother didn't look Latina and could pass as a European. Hell, in my house we found the old deed came with a letter attatched that said "Do not sell to Chinese, Spics, Negros, or Catholics" on it (fat lot of good it did by the way).
I find the law to be rather dumb. There are certain characteristics you want your roommate to have so you are compatible. I can imagine that there would be some compatibility issues with strong Christian and strong Atheists. Even when it comes to sexuality, I think there are some perfectly justifiable reasons to want a certain sexuality. In one case a homophobe will not at all want a homosexual because they know the arrangement simply wouldn't work out. Or maybe a gay guy doesn't want to live with another gay guy because he's only had issues going down that path before. I think it'd be perfectly acceptable for them to request for their roommate to not be gay if they wanted to. I'm not putting any emphasis on whether the person is right in their preferences, but I am saying that certain types of people aren't going to be compatible together.
[QUOTE=doomkiwi;25649056]There is a reason and a precedent for this law you know...
The law serves to disallow these people with good money from getting turned down because of their race or religion and I could easily see the use due to the strong hatred of Muslims I see now.
To put it in context this shit went on until about the 1970s for my family (the 1920s is about when my both grandparents came over):
Back when my grandparents first came to the united states (My Chinese grandfather and Costa Rican grandmother on opposite sides of the family) both had a lot of trouble finding residence because there were many signs that would say "No Spics, No Negros, No China-men, Pets ok" or something along those grounds. The only reason I'm here right now is because the Chinese community is very strong and tight in San Francisco (although finding a place outside Chinatown was hell even up into the 70s), and because my great-grandmother didn't look Latina and could pass as a European. Hell, in my house we found the old deed came with a letter attatched that said "Do not sell to Chinese, Spics, Negros, or Catholics" on it (fat lot of good it did by the way).[/QUOTE]
That's understandable, but I don't see how it would really apply to roommates, as in you and someone else are both pitching in to pay rent.
[QUOTE=FunkyHippo;25648803]Hey maybe I don't want some religious goof ball living in my house, so would I get sued if I put "NON RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ONLY" in my ad?[/QUOTE]
According to this, yes.
[QUOTE=Bird;25642073]Why want a christian roommate?[/QUOTE]
Well I have this theory- but you got to promise not to laugh. I know it sounds crazy, but stay with me here: my research has brought me to the conclusion that there may be individuals out there if could possibly somehow get along better with people who share similar views.
[QUOTE=thisispain;25643000]there's more to this than the article makes it appear to be[/QUOTE]
That's what it seems like, I doubt that a small organization would go to such lengths to sue for such a trivial matter, (and stir up the constitutionality of preferring who can be your roommate or not); of course, history hold evidence for the contrary. But I can see this going to federal supreme court pretty damn fast.
Oh for fuck's sake :doh:
Either there is more to this or someone is just LOOKING for an excuse to get butthurt.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;25642433]Why did she have to specify "Christian" if she was posting it at a christian church?[/QUOTE]
Many (especially larger) churches do outreach where they try to bring in outsiders who aren't Christian into the church. Weddings, funerals, and probably a few other events are often held at churches as well.
[quote=Faux News]"It's a violation to make, print or publish a discriminatory statement... There are no exemptions to that."[/quote]
God damn it Fox quit giving me mixed messages
[QUOTE=bravehat;25641965]Wait, so they are suing her for a personal opinion?
This is almost as bad as squatters rights in england.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
Some people simply shouldn't be paired with some people to begin with. I don't think it would go over too well if one half of the housing was a chapel and the other half an endless metal concert with people sleeping around frequently.
It's not illegal to be racist and if even if it was, this isn't nearly as bad.
I mean it actually makes more sense because you might end up getting paired up with a FP member who has nothing better to do than endlessly mock your religion.
[QUOTE=Jenkem;25657567]Agreed.
Some people simply shouldn't be paired with some people to begin with. I don't think it would go over too well if one half of the housing was a chapel and the other half an endless metal concert with people sleeping around frequently.[/QUOTE]
Then agree to a short term contract, and if an issue arises, kick out the rentee and find another? All this law does is prevent persons to be discriminated against up front.
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;25666420]It's not illegal to be racist and if even if it was, this isn't nearly as bad.
*hurr*[/QUOTE]
Again, if an issue arises, kick out the rentee. This makes things slightly easier for minorities to have equal access to housing, even if a good portion of lessors will discriminate anyway.
I want room mates who aren't absolute morons but that's never going to happen.
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So basically, if I didn't want g guy living in my home who has a history of meth lab explosions, it's a civil rights violation?
rate me boxes/
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;25666420]It's not illegal to be racist and if even if it was, this isn't nearly as bad.[/QUOTE]
It isn't illegal to think racist things.
However, it is very illegal to do racist things.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;25642013]Meh, I don't know. I can see the purpose of the law. It's to protect the ability of minorities and such to find a home. If the majority of the population hated blacks, it would be pretty difficult for them to find a place to live.
On the other hand I can understand the counter argument.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I agree. I can see why the law exists, but perhaps there needs to be a stipulation which excludes homeowners looking for a simple roommate.
Maintain the law for people renting properties and things, but if it is just a person renting part of the home in which they reside, then allow them to choose.
Yeah, you should be forced to live with people you don't choose
[QUOTE=that1dude24;25667017]Then agree to a short term contract, and if an issue arises, kick out the rentee and find another? All this law does is prevent persons to be discriminated against up front.
Again, if an issue arises, kick out the rentee. This makes things slightly easier for minorities to have equal access to housing, even if a good portion of lessors will discriminate anyway.[/QUOTE]
If you're going to kick out every rentee that's not Christian then you might as well up and say that you only want a Christian as a roommate. I mean, if they're really that sensitive about it, then they're still going to discrimiate against them regardless.
People who complain about this crap are just people who don't seem to realize how good they have it and because they have the luxury, they complain about every damn thing even if it's not affecting them or anyone else in the least.
i don't get it
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