• Pink stripe on NC illegal immigrant licenses eyed
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[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;39681263]Sure thing. I'm a rightful citizen(by relation of my mother) of the United Kingdom as well as the United States, but thanks to some issues with my mother's greencard after her card expired a few years ago, I cannot willingly travel to the United Kingdom(nor can she) to meet family, without raising issues. We tried to get it re-newed but doing so would take time, as well as require a hefty(somewhat bullshit) fee. About $400, as well as something like $85 for registration. Please note my mother does pay taxes, and through out her forty or so years since moving here, she's held several different jobs and worked her legally. The present immigration laws are absolute horse-shit for the most part, and do cause some great issues with families that do come here to live legally. All though I'm not entirely against acknowledging your legality of residence, it's still bullshit people get cunted out for simply wanting to come here. Our country was created by immigrants, innovated by immigrants, and molded together by immigrants. I don't care if your Pueblo, Al-Asha, Fuji, or any of that. I want these people to have good lives, and be productive within the United States. If you can do that, feel free to come here.[/QUOTE] Well said. Couldn't have put it better myself. Honestly I believe that immigrants should be considered here legally as long as they're willing to follow the law, work an honest day's work, pay their taxes and make an earnest effort to learn English and fit into the culture of their neighborhood. If they do that? I'm quite happy to call them a citizen. The only immigrants I take issue with are the ones that come over here just to shoot people in the dick over white powder and pharmaceutical leaves. Those immigrants can get bent, but the vast majority that just want a better life? Come right in!
I don't even get how people can think that more restrictive immigration measures are what America needs when they obviously aren't working. simple trial and error shit right here dudes
[QUOTE=Patriarch;39680981]As we all know, the America we know and love today was founded by [I]legal[/I] immigrants.[/QUOTE] Actually, it really was. The Founding Fathers were all legal citizens (in fact, only 9 were born outside of the colonies,) and the immigrants that originally colonized the east coast weren't illegal immigrants because the natives had no immigration laws. There were no legal nor illegal immigrants to them, just immigrants. The roots of America are in immigration, true, but it was not, in any way, founded by illegal immigrants.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39681032]I agree, most illegal immigrants that come to America bust their ass at shitty jobs that no one else would take.[/QUOTE] Jesus christ man, it's like you were born yesterday, fell out of your mother's vagina and landed on Glenn Beck's cock.
I see in the first page of this thread people arguing against the whole British colonists slaughtering and kicking native Americans from their land being illegal xyz. then i laugh as the same thing is being said. i just love the concept of people going on huge stampedes about how terrible illegal immigration is, when their own country was founded on people running on to their pile of land, kicking and pushing the natives out, and claiming themselves rightful owners. basically migrating illegally and dipping their balls in to the warm, fertile land. then again if Americans immigration system didn't encourage people to migrate illegally then things like this would be much less of a problem. but alas, my dreams are but dreams and until they come true i will continue helping people cross the border to France from Britain illegally
[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;39682717]I see in the first page of this thread people arguing against the whole British colonists slaughtering and kicking native Americans from their land being illegal xyz. then i laugh as the same thing is being said. i just love the concept of people going on huge stampedes about how terrible illegal immigration is, when their own country was founded on people running on to their pile of land, kicking and pushing the natives out, and claiming themselves rightful owners. basically migrating illegally and dipping their balls in to the warm, fertile land. then again if Americans immigration system didn't encourage people to migrate illegally then things like this would be much less of a problem. but alas, my dreams are but dreams[/QUOTE] For prudence's sake you might wish to avoid posting self-incriminating evidence on an internet forum. Do not make the assumption that nobody is watching.
I'm afraid of people like UziXxX having politcal power in the US. I honestly can't see any reason to be so hard on illegal immigrants other than pure ignorance.
I think it should be a patch (much easier to remember and notice) and should perhaps contain a friendly design like a star (pink is a very alienating colour)
[QUOTE=Iago;39682739]I'm afraid of people like UziXxX having politcal power in the US. I honestly can't see any reason to be so hard on illegal immigrants other than pure ignorance.[/QUOTE] They already do, sadly. [editline]22nd February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;39682833]I think it should be an armband (much easier to remember and notice) and should perhaps contain a friendly design like a star (pink is a very alienating colour)[/QUOTE] That's exactly the reference I was going to make before UziXxX's brainwashed drivel made me lose a little faith in humanity.
[QUOTE=archangel125;39682835]They already do, sadly. [editline]22nd February 2013[/editline] That's exactly the reference I was going to make before UziXxX's brainwashed drivel made me lose a little faith in humanity.[/QUOTE] and people like uzixx scarcely listen to arguments or reason from an opposing side it's god damn depressing
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39681228]British rule was actually relatively benign. Little to no interference in their affairs, and they had their own assemblies with which to pass laws (the stupid one getting chucked out).[/QUOTE] Please stop doing this in every thread that has to do with colonial America. You made a MD thread a while back and got your ass handed to you, so now you just make this shit up in SH where you don't need evidence.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;39683238]Please stop doing this in every thread that has to do with colonial America. You made a MD thread a while back and got your ass handed to you, so now you just make this shit up in SH where you don't need evidence.[/QUOTE] you have the link to the thread?
[QUOTE=Iago;39682739]I'm afraid of people like UziXxX having politcal power in the US. I honestly can't see any reason to be so hard on illegal immigrants other than pure ignorance.[/QUOTE] Giving illegal aliens a drivers license with a pink stripe isn't being hard on them. What is so harsh about that? How is that being harsh?
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;39681023]You mean the people who crossed the atlantic ocean and tricked, murdered and stole from the natives? [I]legal[/I][/QUOTE] There were no laws in America back then, because America as a nation didn't even exist back then. It's silly to point to the past like that. The world has changed, we've now built a huge nation here that can't function if any immigrants are allowed to come and go as they please
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39681421]I don't blame people for trying to escape from the shit hole that is Mexico.[/QUOTE] that "shithole" is home to a lot of good people who are working hard to fix the problems your shithole of a country made for them god you are the stereotypical arrogant american, i dont blame sobotnik for resenting you
[QUOTE=Irkalla;39680957]He said nothing wrong about legal immigrants. Argue the issue or fuck off.[/QUOTE] the entire concept of legal and illegal immigrants is in itself fascist, racist, and downright cruel. it's basless dickwaving "oo-err you can't come into MY secret pillow fort because you're black/asian/mexican!!! go find some other kid's back yard to play in you smelly foreigner!" and then if you try to escape to america to evade war or murder, you're treated like you're some sort of satan-worshipping babyeater who wants to destroy america single-handedly with their dracula laser beam eyes.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39683539]Giving illegal aliens a drivers license with a pink stripe isn't being hard on them. What is so harsh about that? How is that being harsh?[/QUOTE] because you are singling them out with no other purpose but to persecute them. [editline]23rd February 2013[/editline] you don't need to know the driver's resident status to know whether they are legally allowed to drive or not.
[QUOTE=thisispain;39683551]that "shithole" is home to a lot of good people[/QUOTE] Where did I say that everyone in Mexico was a bad person? [QUOTE=thisispain;39683551]who are working hard[/QUOTE] Where did I say they weren't trying to fix their problems? [QUOTE=thisispain;39683551]to fix the problems your shithole of a country made for them[/QUOTE] What problems has America made for Mexico? As far as I know, the drug cartels operate on both sides of the fence, but originate from Mexico. [QUOTE=thisispain;39683551]god you are the stereotypical arrogant american,[/QUOTE] I'm not a "stereotypical arrogant american", you just failed to read everything in the thread and jumped to conclusions. [QUOTE=thisispain;39683551]i dont blame sobotnik for resenting you[/QUOTE] Implying I really care what he thinks.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39683600] What problems has America made for Mexico?[/QUOTE] north american free trade agreement is one of the big things off the top of my head
oh and don't forget about cubans. they try to escape a country that america has a gun to the head of, and then they're treated like they're less than human all because they want a chance at a better life. it's sickening.
Immigrants that are willing to work, learn english (does not have to be perfect), pay taxes and be law abiding, should should be made legal citizens imo.
[QUOTE=green bandit;39683748]Immigrants that are willing to work, learn english (does not have to be perfect), pay taxes and be law abiding, should should be made legal citizens imo.[/QUOTE] Couldn't agree more, most have already proved themselves productive members of society.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39683600] What problems has America made for Mexico? As far as I know, the drug cartels operate on both sides of the fence, but originate from Mexico. [/QUOTE] I literally cannot even begin to comprehend the ignorance in this question.
If someone is here, and they will be driving, it's in our best interest to inform them of the rules of the road, test them on it, and license them, so they can get insurance and such. What point does it serve to have unlicensed drivers on the road? So then I have to ask, what point does it serve putting anything on their license regarding other aspects of their nondriving life? Sure you can mark their license "Illegal, lol" and what does that accomplish besides discouraging people from getting licenses(but they'll still drive).
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39683600] What problems has America made for Mexico? As far as I know, the drug cartels operate on both sides of the fence, but originate from Mexico. I'm not a "stereotypical arrogant american", you just failed to read everything in the thread and jumped to conclusions. [/QUOTE] Well you contradicted yourself right there buddy. You're ignorant of the causes of that(US Drug laws, the war on drugs, etc) and you call yourself not arrogant when you say things like it's all their fault. You're an ignorant and arrogant american, sorry, I guess we just missed part of that label.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39680919]These people are crossing the boarder from Mexico and other countries, and then bitch at people saying, "We want our American rights!". They can have their rights as soon as they become legal citizens.[/QUOTE] When did "all men are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights," become, "Americans are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights?"
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39680919] I support this. We should be able to tell who is here illegally and who isn't. These people claim to be "scared"? Good, they should be. In any other country if you don't have your papers, they drive you to the border, or just throw you in jail.[/quote] that's not fascist at all!! [quote] This entire illegal immigrant thing in the United States is getting out of hand. These people are crossing the boarder from Mexico and other countries, and then bitch at people saying, "We want our American rights!". They can have their rights as soon as they become legal citizens.[/quote] yep fuck the idea that all humans are created equal and deserve basic human rights! grrr no brownies in my secret club house! [quote]I wish the president or the government would do something about this. If people who aren't citizens aren't pleased with what is being given to them, they can kindly get the fuck out or become citizens. They are entitled to nothing.[/QUOTE] i am certain that obama himself can solve the entire problem. "they are entitled to nothing" no you insufferable pillock they're entitled to human rights and to be treated like fucking human beings since that's what they are. they aren't mindless cattle that have just stumbled over the border riddled with drugs, flies, and disease, they're actual living, thinking, feeling human beings. just like you or me. they are scared because they don't want to go back to a war and crime-torn country that is only spiralling more and more into a sinkhole.
UziXxX must be Glaber's younger brother or something
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;39684571]When did "all men are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights," become, "Americans are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights?"[/QUOTE] to be fair it isn't like our rights are inalienable to begin with. the 5th amendment makes it clear that human rights can be stripped by due process.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39683753]Couldn't agree more, most have already proved themselves productive members of society.[/QUOTE] How the fuck are they supposed to prove this when we currently immediately brand them as illegals and arrest/deport them? [editline]e[/editline] [QUOTE=King Tiger;39683238]Please stop doing this in every thread that has to do with colonial America. You made a MD thread a while back and got your ass handed to you, so now you just make this shit up in SH where you don't need evidence.[/QUOTE] Reminds me of the result of the first argument I participated in against Sobotnik: [QUOTE=Sobotnik;27843477]I've given up. I won't continue the thread. Even though the posters in this thread have showed evidence that their system is best I won't change my opinion because this is the internet.[/QUOTE] Classic.
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