Ferguson, MO: Governor signs Executive Order calling to active service "organized militia"
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[QUOTE=Timebomb575;45727836]source?[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://twitchy.com/2014/08/14/had-my-heart-racing-fireworks-not-gunshots-heard-in-ferguson-thursday-night/[/URL]
[URL]https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/501212106793172993[/URL]
Everyone lost their shit about it being gunfire, then figured out some douche was just lighting off fireworks. That prompted a whole round of tear gas and such.
Side note: How do you do that thing where you paste a tweet into a thread as an image?
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45727889][URL]http://twitchy.com/2014/08/14/had-my-heart-racing-fireworks-not-gunshots-heard-in-ferguson-thursday-night/[/URL]
[URL]https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/501212106793172993[/URL]
Everyone lost their shit about it being gunfire, then figured out some douche was just lighting off fireworks. That prompted a whole round of tear gas and such.
Side note: How do you do that thing where you paste a tweet into a thread as an image?[/QUOTE]
Better to assume it was gunfire than let it go, wouldn't it?
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45727889][URL]http://twitchy.com/2014/08/14/had-my-heart-racing-fireworks-not-gunshots-heard-in-ferguson-thursday-night/[/URL]
[URL]https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/501212106793172993[/URL]
Everyone lost their shit about it being gunfire, then figured out some douche was just lighting off fireworks. That prompted a whole round of tear gas and such.
Side note: How do you do that thing where you paste a tweet into a thread as an image?[/QUOTE]
Im sorry man, Im gonna take CNNs word and the Governers word before completely unverified twitter posts from random people
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shit the original twitter poster doesnt even correct himself, he still believes that it was gunfire at the end there
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;45727941]Im sorry man, Im gonna take CNNs word and the Governers word before completely unverified twitter posts from random people
[editline]18th August 2014[/editline]
shit the original twitter poster doesnt even correct himself, he still believes that it was gunfire at the end there[/QUOTE]
That twitter feed is owned by a journalist from MSNBC.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45727835]It's very simple: The police don't want press on the scene because they know that what they're doing is not okay.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;45728014]That twitter feed is owned by a journalist from MSNBC.[/QUOTE]
And like I said, the journalist still doesnt fully believe that it was fireworks even after those people try to correct him
MSNBC is also reporting that there was gunfire last night so again unverified twitter users are still a shit source
[editline]18th August 2014[/editline]
Ill definitely believe it when media outlets start reporting that it was fireworks, but when outlets that generally have shown support for the protestors (MSNBC) are still reporting it as gunfire, Im gonna stick with that.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45727835]It's very simple: The police don't want press on the scene because they know that what they're doing is not okay.[/QUOTE]
Jumping to conclusions
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45727601]Where did the protesters escalate? And don't say looting, because the protesters are not the people breaking in to liquor stores. Did the protesters start shooting tear gas at cops? Or, [I]gasp[/I], throwing a rock at somebody wearing enough body armor to stop a rifle slug?
Can the false equivalence. The two sides are not equal, and they are not equally culpable. You can make that argument when the protesters start shooting back.[/QUOTE]
Did I equate both sides? No. The police might be more liable. The protesters might be too. But the point is, both sides have taken action to escalate the situation. National Guard action may be an overreaction but there is at least a kernel of a valid reason for both sides taking the actions that they have.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;45728014]That twitter feed is owned by a journalist from MSNBC.[/QUOTE]
Same channel that told me I should be panicking because Ebola is in the United States.
Besides that, journalists are human too. They're capable of being stupid and refusing the facts.
It's funny when everyone was complaining about how the police are too militaristic. Well it doesn't get any more militaristic than the fuckin military. Unfortunately they aren't going to do anything but watch the destruction of property, too.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45726366]Great, National Guard, a further escalation. This is really how we treat protests in this country in 2014?
What happens if the National Guard can't put down the protests? Drone strikes?[/QUOTE]
...See. I already point it out but you always fucking use slippery slope and hyperbole.
Are you like, one of those guys who exaggerates just how big the fish is by a mile?
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This is why, while I love comedian styled news reports. They piss me the fuck off at the same time because they don't even research it. They take it at cover value, and then run with it to rant.
Honestly, I'm pissed about the way the police handled this whole thing but the governor has made the right call getting the national guard involved. Those guys are much better trained and disciplined than the Ferguson PD, and I'm confident they can help restore order without escalating the violence as many are fearing.
What if this turns into Ukraine.
[QUOTE=Gentry;45726981]Don't the national guard get trained in dealing with civil disturbances?[/QUOTE]
They get trained.
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[url]http://m.ustream.tv/channel/feelinsofly[/url]
good stream hosted by creator of PANDA [url]http://pandaunite.org/[/url]
[editline]18th August 2014[/editline]
there was just a prayer circle with a really good speech, media ignored it (theres fox and CNN literally on that same street) and then they started filming again after it was over
F16s and F15s flying over to enforce the NFZ
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they're protesting in front of the ferguson police department
There are three issues here. The shooting itself, it's going to take time for the full report on that to come out. So everyone needs to chill and wait on that.
Second, the rioting/looting. That needs to stop now, as in immediately. If they need to bring in NG or militia to do then so be it.
Third, the question about militarizing the police. That is a larger issue that's going to take time to resolve. People need to keep that in the topic of discussion, but it's not a reason to riot.
When this is all over, if justice hasn't been served, THAT'S the time to riot and burn your town down, not now before you've been screwed over.
and this is who the national guard is being called on. apparently looters now are actually people from out of state and one was even arrested from austin, texas.
[url]http://m.ustream.tv/channel/feelinsofly[/url]
stream just went down heres another same place
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[QUOTE=Leon;45729053]one was even arrested from austin, texas.[/QUOTE]
I have to wonder whether this person was at Ferguson before or after the shooting, because the thought of someone crossing two states over just to take advantage of an awful situation depresses me.
[QUOTE=Namieo;45729139]I have to wonder whether this person was at Ferguson before or after the shooting, because the thought of someone crossing two states over just to take advantage of an awful situation depresses me.[/QUOTE]
It is extremely depressing, but not too surprising. When you think about it, a certain subset of the population makes their living through criminal activity. That is just what they do in life, and that person isn't going to balk at making a short road trip in pursuit of an easy score. Another subset is just freaking crazy and wants to get in on an opportunity to do childish anarchist shit like burn stores down.
I actually find it encouraging to hear that many of the looters are from out of town. It's less depressing than the LA riot phenomenon of poor people setting fire to their own neighborhood.
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F16s and F15s flying over to enforce the NFZ
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What are they trying to hide, a crashed UFO?
[QUOTE=Raidyr;45730546]What are they trying to hide, a crashed UFO?[/QUOTE]
It's pretty clear that Brown was infected with an alien parasite and despite the cop's attempt to save the planet, it was able to jump to new hosts and has infected the entire town at this point.
I don't know if it's just me or what... but I don't see anything incriminating in that picture. I also have no reason to believe "yayabeybey." From what I've read the curfew is from midnight to 5:00AM and that picture is most definitely nowhere close to midnight.
I don't know, but I'm just stressed out and wish this would stop. Apparently, among protestors, media and the like, there are rumored to be 2 infamous rival gangs there trying to stop looters.. if that doesn't say something about this getting out of hand (police violence, justice, everything going on period over there), then idk what does.
Also eygpt trying to give us advice?????? what even
Wasn't the National Guard supposed to be deployed? What ever happened to that?
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;45726337]We run by 'innocent until proven guilty' in America, not the other way around.
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Why is the unarmed teenager guilty until proven innocent then?
[QUOTE=zakedodead;45750442]Why is the unarmed teenager guilty until proven innocent then?[/QUOTE]
Brown isn't on trial. There's also a difference between saying that the cop shouldn't be assumed guilty and saying that Brown should be assumed guilty. They aren't equivalent.
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There's nothing about that photo that proves that they're making Molotov cocktails. Yayabeybay (ugh) could just be making shit up and you're giving him credit by reposting this picture.
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