• Duterte compares himself to Hitler, wants to 'slaughter 3 million drug addicts'
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I tend not to pay much attention to the Alex Jones crowd. I simply know a slippery slope when I see one.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51130581]There is a 0% possibility of death camps forming as a result of Donald Trump being president.[/QUOTE] sometimes the belief that something is impossible is also the belief that makes something possible.
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[QUOTE=Paramud;51130589]No one argued that Trump [b]will[/b] become a genocidal dictator, just that the assumption that it can't happen here is exactly what most people thought when they vote people like this into office.[/QUOTE] 1920's-40's Germany and 2010's Phillipines arent exactly the same as 2010's America. The whole argument is stupid.
[QUOTE=Paramud;51130589]No one argued that Trump [b]will[/b] become a genocidal dictator[/QUOTE] No that's actually all you guys are doing by comparing trump to hitler
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51130581]There is a 0% possibility of death camps forming as a result of Donald Trump being president.[/QUOTE] Well he does want to deport over 10 million undocumented immigrants on account of them "being rapists and drug dealers" which tbh is just a few steps away from Duterte's "I would kill them myself" I mean the guy doesn't care about the constitution anyway since he wants to block entry for Muslims which is already unconstitutional.
[QUOTE=Sally;51130596]No that's actually all you guys are doing by comparing trump to hitler[/QUOTE] You're the only one saying that, and have been this entire time.
[QUOTE=Sally;51130469]My country isn't going down the path of genocide.[/QUOTE] Hitler never downright advocated the extermination of Jews when he was running for office. I highly doubt America is going for genocide, but we are slowly heading towards really awful racial/religious oppression. The current political spectrum and public attitude draws unfortunate similarities to Germany in the 30s.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;51130597]Well he does want to deport over 10 million undocumented immigrants on account of them "being rapists and drug dealers" which tbh is just a few steps away from Duterte's "I would kill them myself" I mean the guy doesn't care about the constitution anyway since he wants to block entry for Muslims which is already unconstitutional.[/QUOTE] Do you think the President has unlimited power or anything? That literally cant happen, none of the other branches would allow it. Nevermind the near religious devotion to the constitution. Thats just stupid, Presidents arent all powerful.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51130581]There is a 0% possibility of death camps forming as a result of Donald Trump being president.[/QUOTE] the entire point im trying to make is that [b][i]it did not start as "we will make death camps"[/i][/b] it started as "the jews are cowards who made us surrender," then it was "the jews are impure and we need to preserve the german race by not mixing with them" (the 20s and 30s were the heyday of eugenics, remember) then it was "the jews are trying to tear down the new archchancellor just as we've started to recover from the depression" then it was "the jews are parasites, we need food more than they do" and then there was the secret wannsee conference in 1940, where hitler and 14 (i think?) top officials laid out the plans for the death camps. and at that point, most germans were capable of ignoring the camps, pretending they didn't exist, because at that point germany was a police state and asking about where all the jews went would bring the gestapo knocking [b]hitler was not elected on the promise to build death camps for the jews -- and in 1935, [i]no one saw them coming[/i][/b]
[QUOTE=archangel125;51130598]You're the only one saying that, and have been this entire time.[/QUOTE] Ok then, what do you mean by this. [QUOTE=archangel125;51130463]Duterte's a reactionary demagogue cut from the same cloth as Donald Trump. Take a good look, and you'll get a glimpse of the future that awaits America if he is elected.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sally;51130596]No that's actually all you guys are doing by comparing trump to hitler[/QUOTE] It really isn't. It's about the person's thoughts regarding the candidate, not the candidate's character. I'd be saying the exact same thing about Hillary. Though to be honest I doubt there'd be as much resistance from you if we were talking about her.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51130595]1920's/30's Germany and 2010's Phillipines arent exactly the same as 2010's America.[/QUOTE] The US in the relatively recent past has straddled the line pretty closely. I mean only 75 years ago FDR passed an executive order that rounded up everyone of Japanese descent and put them on trains into the middle of the desert after stripping them of their rights and property. While the internment of Japanese-Americans isn't exactly a genocide it does show that the president can and has in the past systematically violated the rights of American citizens based on nothing but ethnicity.
[QUOTE=Luni;51130606]the entire point im trying to make is that [b][i]it did not start as "we will make death camps"[/i][/b] it started as "the jews are cowards who made us surrender," to "the jews are trying to tear down the new archchancellor just as we've started to recover from the depression", to "the jews are parasites, we need food more than they do" and then the secret wannsee conference in 1940, where hitler and 14 (i think?) top officials laid out the plans for the death camps. and at that point, most germans were capable of ignoring the camps, pretending they didn't exist, because at that point germany was a police state and asking about where all the jews went would bring the gestapo knocking [b]hitler was not elected on the promise to build death camps for the jews -- [i]and in 1933 no one but the people he was oppressing (and peace activists, and the catholics, and the white rose, and...) saw it coming[/i][/b][/QUOTE] Yes. Im also still telling you that death camps arent going to happen. Theres so much cancerous infighting and near-permanent distrust with anything the government does that even being competent enough to organize it would be a Water-Into-Wine-level miracle.
[QUOTE=Sally;51130607]Ok then, what do you mean by this.[/QUOTE] I mean that Trump is a man who offers no real solutions, ignores the views of experts more knowledgeable, intelligent and educated than he, and plays on the natural xenophobia and fears of Americans to blame minorities for the country's problems - He wishes to make the government an enforcer of moral ideologies rather than the representative of a diverse people. He's your classical 'strongman', just like every fascist or dictator who ever rose to power. Just like Duterte.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;51130609]The US in relatively recent past has straddled the line pretty closely. I mean only 75 years ago FDR passed an executive order that rounded up everyone of Japanese descent and put them on trains into the middle of the desert after stripping them of their rights and property. While the internment of Japanese-Americans isn't exactly a genocide it does show that the president can and has in the past systematically violated the riots of American citizens based on nothing but ethnicity.[/QUOTE] Not to mention the government is [i]still[/i] sequestering Native American land.
[QUOTE=Paramud;51130608]It really isn't. It's about the person's thoughts regarding the candidate, not the candidate's character. I'd be saying the exact same thing about Hillary. Though to be honest I doubt there'd be as much resistance from you if we were talking about her.[/QUOTE] You cock, when I say I don't see my country going down the path of genocide, I refer to both avenues Hillary or Trump. But apparently you see the US going down the path of genocide from trump or Hillary. ok [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming, Calling someone a cock is not ok here." - UncleJimmema))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51130602] That literally cant happen, none of the other branches would allow it. Nevermind the near religious devotion to the constitution. Thats just stupid, Presidents arent all powerful.[/QUOTE] The president can get away with a lot if he has popular support.
Hitler and the Nazis aren't seen the same way in South East Asia. [t]http://www.vosizneias.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/highres_00000402939176.jpg[/t] My girlfriend is Thai and once explained it to me that "They're just stupid. They dont know history so they don't know what it means. They just look at a shirt with a swastika on it and think it looks cool"
[QUOTE=Sally;51130513]So all muslims, terrorists and Mexicans and the lgbt will be rounded up and murdered.[/QUOTE] even if he tried to get that passed he'd never get it through congress I doubt he would try it but it wouldn't surprise me if he did tbh. Obviously not as wild as THAT of course
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51130602]Do you think the President has unlimited power or anything? That literally cant happen, none of the other branches would allow it. Nevermind the near religious devotion to the constitution. Thats just stupid, Presidents arent all powerful.[/QUOTE] Remember McCarthyism? Apparently nobody else does.
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[QUOTE=Kyle902;51130609]The US in relatively recent past has straddled the line pretty closely. I mean only 75 years ago FDR passed an executive order that rounded up everyone of Japanese descent and put them on trains into the middle of the desert after stripping them of their rights and property. While the internment of Japanese-Americans isn't exactly a genocide it does show that the president can and has in the past systematically violated the riots of American citizens based on nothing but ethnicity.[/QUOTE] Almost a century ago, yeah. A lot of things were different everywhere a century ago, and that specific scenario was an extraordinary one at that.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;51130619]The president can get away with a lot if he has popular support.[/QUOTE] no, there is not a president on earth who can convince the 2016 United States population to commit genocide. i'm seriously concerned about the mental health of some of the people in this thread. imagine drinking so much kool-aid that you think your political opponent literally wants to gas the mexicans/muslims/whatever
[QUOTE=archangel125;51130615]I mean that Trump is a man who offers no real solutions, ignores the views of experts more knowledgeable, intelligent and educated than he, and plays on the natural xenophobia and fears of Americans to blame minorities for the country's problems - He wishes to make the government an enforcer of moral ideologies rather than the representative of a diverse people. Just like Duterte.[/QUOTE] You sure do like to cut the purdue swiss [editline]30th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51130622]Remember McCarthyism? Apparently nobody else does.[/QUOTE] That was formed against a nation state, not people. And yes to be ironic trump would be the one to reduce tensions between the us and Russia.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51130613]Yes. Im also still telling you that death camps arent going to happen. Theres so much cancerous infighting and near-permanent distrust with anything the government does that even being competent enough to organize it would be a Water-Into-Wine-level miracle.[/QUOTE] like there wasn't distrust and infighting in the weimar republic before hitler came to power? ill grant you that theres a slim chance of hitler-level death camps, but even so, my point is simply that you can't say "oh [insert atrocity here] will never happen, we'd never stand for that" because the road leading to those atrocities is walked one step at a time, and the kind of country trump wants to mold america into, a nation of fear and hatred with the possibility of some kind of paranoid apartheid for muslims, is unacceptable the communists didn't start the russian revolution with the stated goal of creating the chekas that skinned people alive in basements, slowly lowered them into furnaces, or froze them in blocks of ice; they just wanted to fight back against the tsar's oppression the germans didn't support hitler's rise to power with the stated goal of slaughtering 11 million jews, gypsies, gays, poles and catholics; they just wanted a stable economy and a strong, proud nation and it'll start little by little, until you're in 2024 looking back on 3 years of trump's neo-brownshirts beating up muslims in alleyways, and wondering how the hell we got here
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51130627]Almost a century ago, yeah. A lot of things were different everywhere a century ago, and that specific scenario was an extraordinary one at that.[/QUOTE] Nearly a century ago isn't that long at all. My grandfather passed away less then a year ago. He was 6 years old when the government took their property and forced them into a bunch of fucking horse stables before shipping them into the middle of the desert without medical care. It can and it will happen if people don't actively try to prevent the factors that lead up to it.
[QUOTE=Sally;51130632]You sure do like to cut the purdue swiss[/QUOTE] And you sure love to shitpost. Got a point to make, or have you not thought of one yet?
[QUOTE=Monkah;51130628]no, there is not a president on earth who can convince the 2016 United States population to commit genocide. i'm seriously concerned about the mental health of some of the people in this thread. imagine drinking so much kool-aid that you think your political opponent literally wants to gas the mexicans/muslims/whatever[/QUOTE] Once again you ignore the fact that these things are incremental and not sudden
[QUOTE=archangel125;51130640]And you sure love to shitpost. Got a point to make, or have you not thought of one yet?[/QUOTE] Yeah you purposely left out the part about you comparing trump to duterte in an article to where dutere compares himself to hitler. But yes, lets see me to be a shitposter, like you a conspiracy theorist.
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