Duterte compares himself to Hitler, wants to 'slaughter 3 million drug addicts' - Polidicks

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51130622]Remember McCarthyism? Apparently nobody else does.[/QUOTE] You mean that thing that happened when everyone was scared to fucking shit the Reds will storm their homes and nuke the country into atomic hellfire because the US and Russia were measuring dicks with world ending bombs? The world is a different place, the cold war is over, the internet exists, etc. Hell, 9/11 is comparable to Pearl Harbor but we didnt start rounding up muslims and throwing them into camps after that. We put in useless "security measures" and racism went up a wee bit but there wasnt systematic extermination. [editline]30th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Paramud;51130646]Once again you ignore the fact that these things are incremental and not sudden[/QUOTE] The United States is not in a situation in which that could happen, even slowly, thats retarded. Everyone compares everything to Hitler enough as it is.

[QUOTE=Sally;51130647]Yeah you purposely left out the part about you comparing trump to duterte in an article to where dutere compares himself to hitler.[/QUOTE] Sure. Because Duterte, Trump, Hitler, and even freaking McCarthy all have one thing in common. They created, or seek to create, a witch hunt within their own country by labelling disliked or minority groups as enemies of the State. Do you understand the concept of a slippery slope? Would you like me to explain it to you, using small, monosyllabic words so you can wrap your head around it? I know you have difficulty with complex concepts.

[QUOTE=Monkah;51130628]no, there is not a president on earth who can convince the 2016 United States population to commit genocide. i'm seriously concerned about the mental health of some of the people in this thread. imagine drinking so much kool-aid that you think your political opponent literally wants to gas the mexicans/muslims/whatever[/QUOTE] You don't have to build death camps to be a fascist cunt. Also the US isn't a stranger to genocide

[QUOTE=Monkah;51130628]no, there is not a president on earth who can convince the 2016 United States population to commit genocide.[/quote] I'm not worried that trump will wake up one day and say "gas the muslims" I'm worried about the trend the US has taken towards xenophobia and ostracization based solely on religious grounds. These are things that historically have almost always led to either genocide or the restriction of freedoms. Its a valid fear. [quote] i'm seriously concerned about the mental health of some of the people in this thread. imagine drinking so much kool-aid that you think your political opponent literally wants to gas the mexicans/muslims/whatever[/QUOTE] Literally no one is saying that Trump "will gas x minority". Trump being president however shows that a leader can still be elected in the US based on negative rhetoric against minorities and general xenophobia.

[QUOTE=Luni;51130638]like there wasn't distrust and infighting in the weimar republic before hitler came to power? ill grant you that theres a slim chance of hitler-level death camps, but even so: the kind of country trump wants to mold america into, a nation of fear and hatred with the possibility of some kind of paranoid apartheid for muslims, is unacceptable and it'll start little by little, until you're in 2024 looking back on 3 years of trump's neo-brownshirts beating up muslims in alleyways, and wondering how the hell we got here[/QUOTE] No, it wont. Last i checked the United States wasnt crippled as a result of a world war recently. [editline]30th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=thelurker1234;51130656]You don't have to build death camps to be a fascist cunt. Also the US isn't a stranger to genocide[/QUOTE] Genocide that happened hundreds of years ago and almost everyone alive today who isnt a literal neo-nazi thinks was terrible.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51130648]You mean that thing that happened when everyone was scared to fucking shit the Reds will storm their homes and nuke the country into atomic hellfire because the US and Russia were measuring dicks with world ending bombs? The world is a different place, the cold war is over, the internet exists, etc. Hell, 9/11 is comparable to Pearl Harbor but we didnt start rounding up muslims and throwing them into camps after that. We put in useless "security measures" and racism went up a wee bit but there wasnt systematic extermination. [editline]30th September 2016[/editline] The United States is not in a situation in which that could happen, even slowly, thats retarded. Everyone compares everything to Hitler enough as it is.[/QUOTE] Terror is still the atmosphere of our time as it was then Don't ignore that our world currently fear mongers just as hard as the McCarthyites

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51130648]The United States is not in a situation in which that could happen, even slowly, thats retarded.[/QUOTE] Keep bashing your head against that wall, you're not gonna get anywhere by saying the same thing over and over.

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[QUOTE=Paramud;51130646]Once again you ignore the fact that these things are incremental and not sudden[/QUOTE]if you can name any possible way we can go from being the world #1 superpower to gassing minorities in the timespan of four years i'll be incredibly impressed. like, that shit would take creativity. illuminati secret brainwave signals? brainwashing drug in the water supply? nuclear war with iran? it gets even harder to come up with something once we throw in the fact that it has to be caused by a successful businessman famous for real estate and television shows.

[QUOTE=archangel125;51130654]Do you unerstand the concept of a slippery slope? Would you like me to explain it to you, using small, monosyllabic words so you can wrap your head around it? I know you have difficulty with complex concepts.[/QUOTE] I am sorry I have to use 'small syllabic words' to communicate with you. I am sorry I am I have difficulty with complex concepts. I am sorry I cannot understand the concept of a slippery slope. I am sorry I am a trump supporter. I am sorry that you are losing braincells during this argument with me. I am sorry I can never understand the grand picture someone who has never set foot in my country has... for my country. I am just a mindless plebian, who am I to understand what the people of my country are, I have no real experience with them to establish that

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51130663] Genocide that happened hundreds of years ago and almost everyone alive today who isnt a literal neo-nazi thinks was terrible.[/QUOTE] Genocides don't necessarily mean mass murder. Until rather recently IIRC we were still stealing native american kids and raising them with white families to kill their culture.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51130672]The US wasn't even touched by WWII are you tripping? What fucked the US over was the great depression. Ironically WWII led to our economy becoming UNcrippled. It astounds me how people can spout such blatantly false or stupid things[/QUOTE] He's referring to the Treaty of Versailles that ruined the German economy and was the reason that Hitler rose to power. Generally speaking, before people will elect a fascist, the country has to be undergoing some crisis. Right now, that crisis in America is fear of terrorism that has pervaded the American cultural identity due to the mass media. In Duterte's case, it was the corruption of the government.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51130613]Yes. Im also still telling you that death camps arent going to happen. Theres so much cancerous infighting and near-permanent distrust with anything the government does that even being competent enough to organize it would be a Water-Into-Wine-level miracle.[/QUOTE] Private prisons already exist. Wouldn't take [I]too[/I] much retooling to broaden the application of the death penalty, and all of a sudden, heyo. [QUOTE=Monkah;51130628]no, there is not a president on earth who can convince the 2016 United States population to commit genocide. i'm seriously concerned about the mental health of some of the people in this thread. imagine drinking so much kool-aid that you think your political opponent literally wants to gas the mexicans/muslims/whatever[/QUOTE] Did the politicians supporting Brexit openly call for the increase in racially-motivated attacks and hate crimes that happened in its wake? Fascism in the axis nations didn't just happen overnight.. [QUOTE=Sally;51130632] That was formed against a nation state, not people. And yes to be ironic trump would be the one to reduce tensions between the us and Russia.[/QUOTE] Right, so nation-state, ok. Explain the blacklisting of American citizens for being suspected communists. [QUOTE=AaronM202;51130648]You mean that thing that happened when everyone was scared to fucking shit the Reds will storm their homes and nuke the country into atomic hellfire because the US and Russia were measuring dicks with world ending bombs? The world is a different place, the cold war is over, the internet exists, etc.[/QUOTE] And so does ISIS, Putin is a scary face, North Korea threatens to nuke the US and everyone else routinely (everyone laughs and deservedly so but still), you step into full-body scanners or optionally skip out on the scanners and get felt up by an underpaid TSA agent before you're allowed to get on a plane during peacetime, you're losing rights to the war on terror, the NSA can tap your everything, and an embarrasingly large enough percentage of your population [I]still[/I] believes the sitting President was born in Kenya. You are arguably [I]less free[/I] now than during the Cold War when everyone was scared shitless of the Reds; now everyone's scared shitless of this amorphous global group called (muslim) terrorism. And Trump's promising to deal with the problem. Does it [I]have[/I] to be [U]systematic[/U] extermination before you agree with me?

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51130672]The US wasn't even touched by WWII are you tripping? What fucked the US over was the great depression. Ironically WWII led to our economy becoming UNcrippled. It astounds me how people can spout such blatantly false or stupid things[/QUOTE] What?

[QUOTE=archangel125;51130680]He's referring to the Treaty of Versailles that ruined the German economy and was the reason that Hitler rose to power. Generally speaking, before people will elect a fascist, the country has to be undergoing some crisis. Right now, that crisis in America is fear of terrorism that has pervaded the American cultural identity due to the mass media.[/QUOTE] Ahh I didn't see what he was quoting. [editline]29th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=AaronM202;51130684]What?[/QUOTE] I misread what you quoted, pardon me.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51130613] Im also still telling you that death camps arent going to happen. Theres so much cancerous infighting and near-permanent distrust with anything the government does that even being competent enough to organize it would be a Water-Into-Wine-level miracle.[/QUOTE] And a year ago I'd say "The US population isn't retarded enough to actually let a retarded temperamental child to be the Republican candidate"

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51130683]Right, so nation-state, ok. Explain the blacklisting of American citizens for being suspected communists.[/QUOTE] Without a clear enemy like the Soviets there would be no McCarthyism

Last thing anyone should do is to compare themselves to mass-murdering dictators of the past That's like shooting yourself in the foot [I]through the kneecap[/I]

[QUOTE=EcksDee;51130597]I mean the guy doesn't care about the constitution anyway since he wants to block entry for Muslims which is already unconstitutional.[/QUOTE] not only is it constitutional, and not only does the US has no obligation to accept [I]any[/I] immigrants whatsoever, but there's even fairly recent legal precedent from barring certain countries/regions from entering the country.

Wow this thread derailed to Trump in just 3 posts. Good job FP!

[QUOTE=Sally;51130691]Without a clear enemy like Soviets there would be no McCarthyism[/QUOTE] Muslims, Mexicans, LGBT, take your pick. Trump's shown contempt for all three.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51130663] Genocide that happened hundreds of years ago and almost everyone alive today who isnt a literal neo-nazi thinks was terrible.[/QUOTE] "hundreds of years ago." How about the Guatemalan civil war and genocide of the 80s? What about the indonesian killings of the 60s? Two recent, US approved and assisted genocides to stop THEM SCARY COMMIES. You don't have to do it directly.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51130700]Muslims, Mexicans, LGBT, take your pick. Trump's shown contempt for all three.[/QUOTE] Ok, out of those 3, only one has a clear nation state. So Trump will rise to McCarthyism based on mexico.

[QUOTE=Sally;51130691]Without a clear enemy like Soviets there would be no McCarthyism[/QUOTE] It wasn't so much a country that was the enemy as an ideology. Communism, socialism. The idea was feared with an almost religious fervour, like some infectious disease that could destroy the American way of life. It still lingers today among a lot of people, especially in the south. Why do you think there was so much opposition to Obamacare as it was originally pitched? Why do you think you Americans have shitty public education, why so many States have shitty infrastructure? Why your social security is absolute garbage in most of the country? This time, the enemy is Islam. Gay Marriage. Liberalism. Take your pick.

[QUOTE=Monkah;51130677]if you can name any possible way we can go from being the world #1 superpower to gassing minorities in the timespan of four years i'll be incredibly impressed. like, that shit would take creativity. illuminati secret brainwave signals? brainwashing drug in the water supply? nuclear war with iran? it gets even harder to come up with something once we throw in the fact that it has to be caused by a successful businessman famous for real estate and television shows.[/QUOTE] Again [QUOTE=Paramud;51130608]It's about the person's thoughts regarding the candidate, not the candidate's character.[/QUOTE] I personally doubt Trump will gain the presidency. I doubt that if he does, he will be competent enough to do any real damage. But I will not under any circumstances discount the possibility that [b]any[/b] politician is seeking complete control.

[QUOTE=Monkah;51130697]not only is it constitutional, and not only does the US has no obligation to accept [I]any[/I] immigrants whatsoever, but there's even fairly recent legal precedent from barring certain countries/regions from entering the country.[/QUOTE] Barring people from certain countries is quite a different situation to barring people of certain religions. Especially considering how huge a fraction of the global population follows each of the major religions.

[QUOTE=Monkah;51130697]not only is it constitutional, and not only does the US has no obligation to accept [I]any[/I] immigrants whatsoever, but there's even fairly recent legal precedent from barring certain countries/regions from entering the country.[/QUOTE] Well yeah obviously there's nothing that obligates you to accept anyone, however there is sorta kinda the first amendment and the equal protection clause in the fourteenth amendment. It is blatantly unconstitutional to ban a certain religion from entry to your country. [editline]30th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Sally;51130702]Ok, out of those 3, only one has a clear nation state. So Trump will rise to McCarthyism based on mexico.[/QUOTE] Well he is already McCarthyistic if that's a word towards Mexicans and Muslims...

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51130706]Barring people from certain countries is quite a different situation to barring people of certain religions. Especially considering how huge a fraction of the global population follows each of the major religions.[/QUOTE] He isn't explicitly banning them by religion. [QUOTE]“It will be lifted, this ban, when and as a nation we’re in a position to properly and perfectly screen these people coming into our country.”[/QUOTE] - Donald Trump, June 13th [QUOTE]“We must suspend immigration from regions linked with terrorism until a proven vetting method is in place.”[/QUOTE] - Donald Trump, June 25th He's also made this clear by stating that he was fine with Scotland and U.K. Muslims entering the country. It's a region ban, which is, as I said earlier, legally precedented and fully legal. Look, I get that some of you guys are [I]reaaaallly[/I] trying to scare off the Trump supporters on this site, but you're going to have to be ever-so slightly more witty than indirectly comparing them to Hitler supporters (and thus, literal Nazis). Nobody here is Hitler. Nobody is going to be gassing anybody. Nobody is going to be thrown into internment camps, or enslaved, or god knows whatever else. I refuse to believe that so many people actually believe that any of the above is a possibility in what's most likely the most accepting and pacifistic nations in one of the most accepting and pacifistic time periods in human history.

[QUOTE=Monkah;51130722]He isn't explicitly banning them by religion. - Donald Trump, June 13th - Donald Trump, June 25th He's also made this clear by stating that he was fine with Scotland and U.K. Muslims entering the country. It's a region ban, which is, as I said earlier, legally precedented and fully legal. Look, I get that some of you guys are [I]reaaaallly[/I] trying to scare off the Trump supporters on this site, but you're going to have to be ever-so slightly more witty than indirectly comparing them to Hitler supporters (and thus, literal Nazis). Nobody here is Hitler. Nobody is going to be gassing anybody. Nobody is going to be thrown into internment camps, or enslaved, or god knows whatever else. I refuse to believe that so many people actually believe that any of the above is a possibility in what's most likely the most accepting and pacifistic nations in one of the most accepting and pacifistic time periods in human history.[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/20/donald-trump-says-hed-absolutely-require-muslims-to-register/]New York Times[/url] [quote]Donald J. Trump, who earlier in the week said he was open to requiring Muslims in the United States to register in a database, said on Thursday night that he “would certainly implement that — absolutely.” Mr. Trump was asked about the issue by an NBC News reporter and pressed on whether all Muslims in the country would be forced to register. “They have to be,” he said. “They have to be.’’ When asked how a system of registering Muslims would be carried out — whether, for instance, mosques would be where people could register — Mr. Trump said: “Different places. You sign up at different places. But it’s all about management. Our country has no management.’’ Asked later, as he signed autographs, how such a database would be different from Jews having to register in Nazi Germany, Mr. Trump repeatedly said, “You tell me,” until he stopped responding to the question.[/quote] Whatever's next for you, Monkah? More profile message shitposting?

[QUOTE=Monkah;51130722]Look, I get that some of you guys are [I]reaaaallly[/I] trying to scare off the Trump supporters on this site, but you're going to have to be ever-so slightly more witty than comparing them to Hitler supporters (and thus, literal Nazis).[/QUOTE] lmao what I don't even live in the US and I don't plan on emigrating anytime soon, especially since as a whole you guys seem to have lost your fucking minds lately, but if you think this is intended to "scare off" anyone from posting I think you may be the one with the problem. Duterte ran on much the same kind of populist rhetoric that Trump has been using, and his supporters were willing to ignore and look past his failings because they liked the message he was promising. He was accused of being a womanizer, and his response was "That is true. That is very true." He then followed up by saying that if he was elected his adultery wouldn't cost the country much because he keeps his mistresses in cheap boarding houses and takes them to cheap hotels for sex. The cultural norms may be a bit different over there, but if Trump said that tomorrow the rationalizations from Trump supporters would be on Twitter within minutes. That Duterte is comparing himself to Hitler in promising to kill millions of drug addicts should be concerning enough by itself, but even the mild resemblance to Trump's campaign adds to how alarming it is. That may be off topic, but it's not insane.