Vancouver home ownership out of middle-class reach - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Captain Lawlrus;35131347]And my argument is that it's awfully coincidental that the students paying exorbitant rates also happen to make up the vast majority of university students in BC.[/QUOTE] And my argument is that instead of blaming it on money you should look at the effort put in by the students, I knew many people working at UBC and they put it down immediately to qualifications. Maybe instead of making baseless accusations (still waiting to see the evidence you have that those students were not just more qualified) you should work harder? There were plenty of local grade A canadian students in my classes throwing shit at each other during class and partying/gaming instead of doing homework - guess who didn't get in to their desired post secondary schools? Basically as someone's who has graduated and seen the results, I have this to say: all the immigrants in my classes who tried really hard? They got in. The immigrants who didn't? They didn't, rich or not. The local students who tried hard? They got into university too. I see no evidence for your reasoning, just irrational anger.

[QUOTE=McCarthy;35131370]Exactly. It's simple economics, Which if elspins Chinese as he implied he will be taking at said University will understand. If you can make 4x the money off 1x the work, why the hell wouldn't you? [b]On top of tuition fee's, where are these said International students living? On campus rez giving them more money as a good chunk of domestic students will live within commuting range.[/b][/QUOTE] actually in my city they built a new housing sector north of the university and a large majority of those houses are being occupied by rich international students. Most of them are Arabs

[QUOTE=McCarthy;35131370]Exactly. It's simple economics, Which if elspins Chinese as he implied he will be taking at said University will understand. If you can make 4x the money off 1x the work, why the hell wouldn't you? On top of tuition fee's, where are these said International students living? On campus rez giving them more money as a good chunk of domestic students will live within commuting range.[/QUOTE] Well it's clear why you didn't get in :v:. This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read, and on top of that I already said I'm a white middle class student.

[QUOTE=Elspin;35131412] There were plenty of local grade A canadian students in my classes throwing shit at each other during class and partying [/QUOTE] Are you fucking kidding me? You expect me to believe that People were PARTYING in a university class? Get a grip bud. [editline]13th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Elspin;35131426]Well it's clear why you didn't get in :v:. This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read, and on top of that I already said I'm a white middle class student.[/QUOTE] Didn't get in? I'm 17 there pal. I can't physically apply until next year. On top of that theres not much doubt i can choose my university at will.

[QUOTE=McCarthy;35131436]Are you fucking kidding me? You expect me to believe that People were PARTYING in a university class? Get a grip bud. [editline]13th March 2012[/editline] Didn't get in? I'm 17 there pal. I can't physically apply until next year. On top of that theres not much doubt i can choose my university at will.[/QUOTE] I honestly can't tell if that first part is sarcasm or not.

[QUOTE=Elspin;35131412]And my argument is that instead of blaming it on money you should look at the effort put in by the students, I knew many people working at UBC and they put it down immediately to qualifications. Maybe instead of making baseless accusations (still waiting to see the evidence you have that those students were not just more qualified) you should work harder? There were plenty of local grade A canadian students in my classes throwing shit at each other during class and partying/gaming instead of doing homework - guess who didn't get in to their desired post secondary schools? Basically as someone's who has graduated and seen the results, I have this to say: all the immigrants in my classes who tried really hard? They got in. The immigrants who didn't? They didn't, rich or not. The local students who tried hard? They got into university too. I see no evidence for your reasoning, just irrational anger.[/QUOTE] You're implying that it's difficult to get into a university here. It really, really isn't. Basically you need decent grades (C grades, maybe some Bs thrown in there), take a grade 11 second language course, and that's just about all the requirements. As long as you can pay they don't give a fuck also, about people throwing shit etc. in your university class? i have yet to see that in my 3 years at uni. People know that they're paying for these courses (even if their parents are) and they don't fuck around. They might watch some TV shows on their laptop or browse facebook or something but i've never seen or heard anyone throwing things or getting in loud conversations even

[QUOTE=McCarthy;35131436]Are you fucking kidding me? You expect me to believe that People were PARTYING in a university class? Get a grip bud.[/QUOTE] Maybe instead of getting angry and nonsensical you should read the post [QUOTE=Elspin;35131412]There were plenty of local grade A canadian students in my classes throwing shit at each other during class and partying/gaming instead of doing homework - [b]guess who didn't get in to their desired post secondary schools?[/b][/QUOTE] The point, which I can tell you're sorely missing, is that the people who didn't try hard or just goofed off in high school didn't get in, it wasn't because the greedy fascist university admissions department hated their local guts.

[QUOTE=Pandamox;35131464]You're implying that it's difficult to get into a university here. It really, really isn't. Basically you need decent grades (C grades, maybe some Bs thrown in there), take a grade 11 second language course, and that's just about all the requirements. As long as you can pay they don't give a fuck[/QUOTE] UBC for a fact doesn't take those grades. Many other schools don't either.

[QUOTE=Pandamox;35131464]You're implying that it's difficult to get into a university here. It really, really isn't. Basically you need decent grades (C grades, maybe some Bs thrown in there), take a grade 11 second language course, and that's just about all the requirements. As long as you can pay they don't give a fuck[/QUOTE] It depends on the university. If there's more applicants than they want to accept, they pick the top students depending on a lot of things such as awards won, grades, etc.

[QUOTE=Pandamox;35131464]You're implying that it's difficult to get into a university here. It really, really isn't. Basically you need decent grades (C grades, maybe some Bs thrown in there), take a grade 11 second language course, and that's just about all the requirements. As long as you can pay they don't give a fuck also, about people throwing shit etc. in you university class? i have yet to see that in my 3 years at uni. People know that they're paying for these courses (even if their parents are) and they don't fuck around. They might watch some TV shows on their laptop or browse facebook or something but i've never seen or heard anyone throwing things or getting in loud conversations even[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, have you even CONSIDERED applying to a Canadian UNIVERSITY?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;35131475]UBC for a fact doesn't take those grades. Many other schools don't either.[/QUOTE] I definitely have a few friends who scratched by their classes with high 60s in their classes and low 70s and they're currently attending UBC, U of A and UVIC [editline]14th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=McCarthy;35131488]I'm sorry, have you even CONSIDERED applying to a Canadian UNIVERSITY?[/QUOTE] uh what i went to uvic and am currently going to UNBC

Vancouver Home ownership V2 University admission discussion edition

[Quote] [url]https://you.ubc.ca/ubc/vancouver/china.ezc[/url] [url]https://you.ubc.ca/ubc/vancouver/bcyt.ezc[/url][/quote] Above are the requirements for Chinese students and British Columbian students for admittance to UBC, respectively. Take for example Commerce. A Canadian student requires the following: [code]English 12 or English 12 First Peoples Principles of Mathematics 12 or Pre-Calculus 12 Two other approved Grade 12 courses English 11 plus a language 11 Mathematics 11 An approved Science 11 course An approved Social Studies course[/code] The SINGLE required course for a Chinese International is: [code]Three years of math (pre-calculus level) at Upper Middle School [/code]

[QUOTE=Pandamox;35131492]I definitely have a few friends who scratched by their classes with high 60s in their classes and low 70s and they're currently attending UBC, U of A and UVIC [editline]14th March 2012[/editline] uh what i went to uvic and am currently going to UNBC[/QUOTE] Must have been slow years because I know a bunch of people from my high school class scratching by with their 60's and 70's who were promptly turned down from UVIC, UBC, University of Calgary. They had to go to SFU and other local "lesser" schools it's anecdotal for anecdotal.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;35131522]Must have been slow years because I know a bunch of people from my high school class scratching by with their 60's and 70's who were promptly turned down from UVIC, UBC, University of Calgary. They had to go to SFU and other local "lesser" schools it's anecdotal for anecdotal.[/QUOTE] Yup.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;35131522]Must have been slow years because I know a bunch of people from my high school class scratching by with their 60's and 70's who were promptly turned down from UVIC, UBC, University of Calgary. They had to go to SFU and other local "lesser" schools it's anecdotal for anecdotal.[/QUOTE] That is entirely possible. It's just from my experiences with my friends going to universities in BC and Alberta, i haven't heard of a single one of them being turned down from their university of choice regardless if their grades were average or below. At a university like McGill or something then they would have most definitely been turned down but i guess the year I graduated the ones in BC must have been a little desperate for students

Unis around here don't take low grades. Straight B's and higher are the only way to get in.

Well, shit, I was planning to move to Vancouver as educated but moneyless european and begin a new life there. I guess I will have to find a bit cheaper place.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;35131637]Well, shit, I was planning to move to Vancouver as educated but moneyless european and begin a new life there. I guess I will have to find a bit cheaper place.[/QUOTE] We have one of the highest cost of living in the world, and the traffic sucks. Move to Calgary if you don't mind the cold or east somewhere.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;35131637]Well, shit, I was planning to move to Vancouver as educated but moneyless european and begin a new life there. I guess I will have to find a bit cheaper place.[/QUOTE] Victoria is a bit cheaper if you really mind the cold.

Living in Vancouver is EASY! All you need is to find this guy; I was minding my own one day, worrying about my bills when a sly man with a goatee knocked at my door and said he would take away my worries if I just sign a piece of paper. Since then I haven't had a single problem.....

[QUOTE=McCarthy;35131678]We have one of the highest cost of living in the world, and the traffic sucks. Move to Calgary if you don't mind the cold or east somewhere.[/QUOTE] Go to Windsor if you want a really low cost of living. Decent city right on the border. Not the total shit hole the rest of the country makes it out to be.

Hell even in Montreal with 120K per year it's hard to find a good house to live in.

We should all move to China to show them how it feels.

As an ethic Chinese, Canadian Citizen (immigrated in 1997), I feel that I could provide more insight into this "Chinese Investment" and "Chinese Preference" of UBC and Vancouver in general. For the Chinese, going to any university outside of China is very prestigious. I personally know several people who have come to Canada for that exact reason. As far as the general stereotype of smart Chinese dominating everywhere, you have to take into consideration, that in the Canadian immigration policy, you need a post-secondary education of some kind (for most people) to become a Canadian Citizen. These people are smarter and better educated than the average Chinese person in China. If you think about it, it makes sense for these people's children to be as smart and will try to become as educated as their parents. The reason why there is so much Chinese investment in Canada in general, is that the wealthy and educated "upper class" in China is afraid of their county's political-economical situation. The Soviet Union showed practically no signs of collapse until their last 4-6 years; the Chinese fear the same, that the collapse of the Chinese government, or the Chinese economy, (or both), could be very unpredictable, and their fortunes would be in jeopardy. To secure their earnings, these wealthy Chinese emigrate to the west to provide a better education and standard of living for their children, and to invest in a market where the government has faced economic collapse (Great Depression) before, and has more predictable ways of dealing with the problems. To be brief, the Chinese admire the west in their political, education, and economic systems. Now, I'm not totally sure if these are good reasons for the rapid increase of Asian immigrants into Canada, but hopefully it has informed you a bit more about the Chinese mentality when they invest (both with $$ and their children) in Canada. Oh, on the note of universities, any FPers going to UofT by any chance?

I was hoping to move to Canada after i finished my Paramedic studies and work as one over there, but that's looking more and more unlikely due to i probably couldn't afford it.:(

[QUOTE=Source;35132584]I was hoping to move to Canada after i finished my Paramedic studies and work as one over there, but that's looking more and more unlikely due to i probably couldn't afford it.:([/QUOTE] where do you live know Metal Gravy Soild

[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;35134534]where do you live know Metal Gravy Soild[/QUOTE] UK, kinda had enough of this country though ( like many others )

[QUOTE=Source;35136204]UK, kinda had enough of this country though ( like many others )[/QUOTE] This is strictly about the housing market in Vancouver. Any Canadian (or at least British Columbian) knows owning property in Vancouver is ludicrously expensive; the prices are miles above the provincial averages. Just stay out of Vancouver if you want to buy your own home and it's much better.

Big deal, home ownership in the ENTIRE UK is out of reach too!