• Trump slowly catches up to Hillary, 5 pts behind this week, latest polls say trump ahead 1 point.
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[QUOTE=Cructo;50995022]The reason I want Trump to be elected and be a good president is because it will open South American people's eyes for a non-socialist government. In Brazil we have been getting fucked by corrupt left governments for years. I just don't want my country to have the same fate as Venezuela.[/QUOTE] Lmao the last thing South America needs is another US president who doesn't give a fuck about South America. You are aware that Venezuela is like it is at the moment as a direct result of the US government deciding to not do a damn thing to at least decry Maduro for what he is? Colombia is doing well because of their cooperation with the US, while Venezuela is doing terribly, and that's no coincidence.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50995081] I never did, thats a lie... i said military action, and that were her exact words in the video... perhaps you made a mistake, and should correct that.[/QUOTE] Can you find the exact words in the video where she mentions her private email account? The emails that [B]weren't even hacked by Russia. [/B]
[QUOTE=Paramud;50995098]What are international patent laws[/QUOTE] What are Donald trump. either way, i meant that as "playstation setting up shop and producing the local PS4's so that they don't have to import them and still get to grab the market"
[QUOTE=Big Bang;50994939]The only US presidents that have never won an election nor been a military general have been Hoover and Taft (Neither of which are held in high regard, mind you), both of which held cabinet positions at least, Trump doesn't even have that.[/QUOTE] Don't forget Gerald Ford, who was held in even [I]less[/I] high regard.
[QUOTE=Cructo;50995115]He said he wouldn't default on debt, just that he could negotiate if the US defaulted. But yes, here we are in an economic crisis but it has been getting better after the far-left president was removed from office a few months ago.[/QUOTE] The world doesn't need Trump. He's a brash arrogant businessman with the skin of a child in gradeschool. He'll cause problems and economic turmoil everywhere he goes.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;50995107]Can you find the exact words in the video where she mentions her private email account? The emails that [B]weren't even hacked by Russia. [/B][/QUOTE] The emails of the DNC contained emails Hillary mailed herself from her private email account, Also her campaign was also amongst the hacked groups, containing lots of mails that were from her, if you HAVE to be pedantic about it. Can you go back to the "you said she would declare war" part and how you made a mistake? also the part i was lying, it would be cool if you addressed that...
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50995111]What are Donald trump. either way, i meant that as "playstation setting up shop and producing the local PS4's so that they don't have to import them and still get to grab the market"[/QUOTE] I don't expect you to know much about the manufacturing industry, but as someone who has worked solely in it, let me tell you that a company establishing a completely separated division in a country, working entirely by itself, using supplies bought from entirely different vendors, to make the [b]exact same product[/b], is fucking insane. It's a logistic nightmare since you'd be doing the financial work of two companies just to keep business in a single country. You'd have entirely different teams making the products so there'd be a massive amount of inconsistency between the US product and the rest of the fucking world, and I guarantee you the US would not be up to par since the US division would be struggling just to get through the fucking paperwork. Do you have any idea how fucking [b]huge[/b] the amount of work it is to set up a single company? Just handling the materials for the product is fucking insane. Take the PS4 for example. You'd have to find separate vendors for the plastics, metals, glass, literally every single part of the product. That means finding the vendors (good luck since everything you could've gotten from overseas is gonna fucking bankrupt you,) running small sample batches to determine if a company can even meet your QA standards (good luck since US companies are fucking notorious for cutting corners,) negotiating prices, training employees to deal with shit since you can't just ship the work to people who already know what the fuck they're doing, and if you're talking about a huge established company you're looking at a complete fucking overhaul of virtually every step of the process that could take fucking years. Setting up these fucking import tariffs will either drive every mid- to small size into bankruptcy or the much more financially viable option of just shutting down their doors. Donald Trump's international business plan will kill American industry, just like he has killed every other business venture he has tried to run himself.
[QUOTE=Paramud;50995205]I don't expect you to know much about the manufacturing industry, but as someone who has worked solely in it, let me tell you that a company establishing a completely separated division in a country, working entirely by itself, using supplies bought from entirely different vendors, to make the [b]exact same product[/b], is fucking insane. It's a logistic nightmare since you'd be doing the financial work of two companies just to keep business in a single country. You'd have entirely different teams making the products so there'd be a massive amount of inconsistency between the US product and the rest of the fucking world, and I guarantee you the US would not be up to par since the US division would be struggling just to get through the fucking paperwork. Do you have any idea how fucking [b]huge[/b] the amount of work it is to set up a single company? Just handling the materials for the product is fucking insane. Take the PS4 for example. You'd have to find separate vendors for the plastics, metals, glass, literally every single part of the product. That means finding the vendors (good luck since everything you could've gotten from overseas is gonna fucking bankrupt you,) running small sample batches to determine if a company can even meet your QA standards (good luck since US companies are fucking notorious for cutting corners,) negotiating prices, training employees to deal with shit since you can't just ship the work to people who already know what the fuck they're doing, and if you're talking about a huge established company you're looking at a complete fucking overhaul of virtually every step of the process that could take fucking years. Setting up these fucking import tariffs will either drive every mid- to small size into bankruptcy or the much more financially viable option of just shutting down their doors. Donald Trump's international business plan will kill American industry, just like he has killed every other business venture he has tried to run himself.[/QUOTE] The USA does it and used to do it with guns and some consumer electronics, so i know its possible, also that's at least partially how it used to be done with regional lockouts in video game consoles, they would ship the hardware and assemble it locally and install the software. Again, im not saying this is smart, just that this is what i believe trump means with what he said.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50995234]The USA does it and used to do it with guns and some consumer electronics, so i know its possible, also that's at least partially how it used to be done with regional lockouts in video game consoles, they would ship the hardware and assemble it locally and install the software. Again, im not saying this is smart, just that this is what i believe trump means with what he said.[/QUOTE] again, it won't be easy, simple cheap, or effective to do this. it'll cost american consumers 100%'s more than the normal cost and the quality just won't be there.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50995026]hillary does not have a clear direction in her plans, so im worried as to why she would want to become president in the first place... most people want to be president to fix 1 or a few issues they hold dear to their heart, and the rest kind of comes with the package once they are holding office.[/QUOTE] Hillary has no economic plan because you refuse to believe it exists. [url]https://www.thebalance.com/hillary-clinton-2016-economic-plan-3305767[/url]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50995250]again, it won't be easy, simple cheap, or effective to do this. it'll cost american consumers 100%'s more than the normal cost and the quality just won't be there.[/QUOTE] Yea, at the very least the first few years will be ROUGH on quality... i dont think it could be pulled off successfully without anything but a miracle but who knows.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50995399]Yea, at the very least the first few years will be ROUGH on quality... i dont think it could be pulled off successfully without anything but a miracle but who knows.[/QUOTE] Well if you're willing to stake the entire manufacturing industry of one of if not the most powerful country on "who knows" then I'm glad you're not voting.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50995170]The emails of the DNC contained emails Hillary mailed herself from her private email account Also her campaign was also amongst the hacked groups, containing lots of mails that were from her, if you HAVE to be pedantic about it. [/QUOTE] Where are these emails? I don't remember any of the DNC leaks having emails sent from Clinton to the DNC. The campaign hack didn't involve emails at all but rather an analytics program. I mean you are still a liar because you said Clinton was considering military options because of her private emails, which she never said at any point during her speech. [editline]3rd September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Blizzerd;50994733] She threatened military action to Russia over "suspected" (although probable) Russian involvement in hacking her [B]private email[/B] account. [/QUOTE] Exact quote. You aren't talking about private emails sent from Clinton caught in other hacks, you specifically said "hacking per private email account". You are a liar.
The debates can't come soon enough.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;50994880]Just look back to 2008 with McCain and you'll see two reasonable candidates with some different ideas on how to use the government. At the time, yeah, everyone was attacking each other, but both candidates had reasonable policy positions and both had respect for each other. McCain even defended Obama when some Tea Partier called him an Arab Muslim. Trump's gone far past policy disagreements. He's gone far past a mutual respect for his political opponent. His "policies" are unbelievably poorly-thought-out and his political message is harassment and name-calling of his opponents. There's no world where this is "politics as normal," it's gone from a rational, levelheaded debate between two experienced and intelligent yet ideologically opposed candidates to almost [I]nothing but[/I] personal attacks (on both sides of the aisle). It's shot flinging. It's embarrassing politics. It's basically reality TV with politics as a background.[/QUOTE] I feel like that's Trump's plan though, in reality TV the most entertaining wins, not the most qualified, therefore if Trump can be more entertaining than Hillary (and, as a far lefty, he already is) then he stands a chance at winning.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;50995614]Where are these emails? I don't remember any of the DNC leaks having emails sent from Clinton to the DNC. The campaign hack didn't involve emails at all but rather an analytics program. I mean you are still a liar because you said Clinton was considering military options because of her private emails, which she never said at any point during her speech. [editline]3rd September 2016[/editline] Exact quote. You aren't talking about private emails sent from Clinton caught in other hacks, you specifically said "hacking per private email account". You are a liar.[/QUOTE] Those emails are freely available for download, several are from Clinton personally, although im not aware just how many there are. just google it tbh, you have called me a liar time and time again and no matter how much i prove and provide sources like the corruption in the dnc being proven, hillaries pay to play being a thing all those things i have carefully and extensively put effort in pointing out how wrong and dogmatic your thinking is and yet you just ignore it all. again you point out something that is just not true, there were massive amounts of emails in the dnc hack... those emails were the reason debbie got into a lot of trouble since they were from her conspiring with the clinton campaign and sending clinton personal advice in how to beat bernie... I dont believe you are this ignorant, you are just trying to wear me out using shotgun argument tactics and you have succeeded. im done with this and will no longer spend time providing sources for you like i did in all my previous posts, i simply have better things to do.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50996037]Those emails are freely available for download, several are from Clinton personally, although im not aware just how many there are. just google it tbh, you have called me a liar time and time again and no matter how much i prove and provide sources like the corruption in the dnc being proven, hillaries pay to play being a thing all those things i have carefully and extensively put effort in pointing out how wrong and dogmatic your thinking is and yet you just ignore it all. again you point out something that is just not true, there were massive amounts of emails in the dnc hack... those emails were the reason debbie got into a lot of trouble since they were from her conspiring with the clinton campaign and sending clinton personal advice in how to beat bernie... I dont believe you are this ignorant, you are just trying to wear me out using shotgun argument tactics and you have succeeded. im done with this and will no longer spend time providing sources for you like i did in all my previous posts, i simply have better things to do.[/QUOTE] Burden of proof is on you to show specifically the emails that were from Clinton to the DNC, because I'm interested in seeing emails from her to the DNC as well.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50994412]'being presidential' is what people say you arent when they dont agree with your brand of politics. Trump for example has a LOT in common with churchill."[/QUOTE] Ok. I'm going to stop you right there. Comparing Churchill and Trump is like comparing St. John Paul II to Joseph Kony. They have nothing of note in common, and would likely despise each other if they would have met. Churchill was a politician, who had been in the political wilderness before he was appointed Prime Minister. Churchill's charisma contributed to the sense of unity felt among the people in Great Britain during the war. Although he did frequently target people he disliked with his sharp wit, he did not insult the people whose support he needed. Donald Trump is an uninspiring business owner and reality tv stooge who struggled to remain relevant in the same tv time block as Judge Judy, before he ran for president. Trump's charisma has been divisive in regards to national unity by insulting everyone who is not a part of the lowest common denominator of voters and dividing Americans against each other with his hateful and inflammatory insults. Winston Churchill has more in common with Bernie Sanders, than he does with Donald Trump. Although I want to believe that you think you're doing the right thing by voting for Trump, part of me knows better and that no one will see their mistakes until this election has long since passed us by. And will all have to answer our grandchildren (assuming the world survives that long) when they ask us why the world is in ruin.
Lol Trump = Churchill. I think Blizzerd has been following this dude too much. [URL="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/08/20/jerry-falwell-jr-trump-is-churchill-clinton-is-neville-chamberlain/"]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/08/20/jerry-falwell-jr-trump-is-churchill-clinton-is-neville-chamberlain/[/URL]
Perhaps Blizzerd read 'The Churchill Factor' by Boris Johnson. Not only does it commit a historian's and history lover's worst nightmare - sucking the metaphorical cock of the person the book is about - but it also made everything Churchill did seem... racial, 'for the empire' and anti-foreign - at-least, that's the spin I thought Johnson put on him. I couldn't finish reading it. I could see then why Blizzerd would equate Churchill with Trump.
Churchill used to build walls in his spare time as a way of relaxing [img]http://i.imgur.com/YzuBcFF.jpg[/img]
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