Terrorist attack in Kharkiv, Ukraine during peace march: 3 confirmed dead
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[url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31575384[/url]
BBC says 2 dead, 10 injured though this is relatively breaking, so it's possible the toll could rise.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47190609]And they're completely right to do so?
How hard it is to comprehend that there wouldn't be an Ukrainian crisis if the Russians didn't meddle with them?[/QUOTE]
Euromaidan disaster started without Russia's interference.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47190943]Euromaidan disaster started without Russia's interference.[/QUOTE]
Euromaidan disaster? You mean the snipers killing civilians?
I didn't say Russia did it, I said Yanukovich, the former Ukrainian president, did it.
[QUOTE=joshuadim;47190647]Typical Russian response, always being an apologist for your great tsar putin.[/QUOTE]
How typical of an American blaming all the baddies on Russia.
What is this, Cold War?
[editline]22nd February 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;47190956]Euromaidan disaster? You mean the snipers killing civilians?
I didn't say Russia did it, I said Yanukovich, the former Ukrainian president, did it.[/QUOTE]
Ukrainian crisis started because of Euromaidan, not because of Putin's meddling. All Putin did was use an opportunity to cleanly take Crimea away, nothing more.
[editline]22nd February 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;47190729]
in fact, when this all got started the DPR was a laughable force and literally controlled a single administration building, they were little more than a bunch of "sovereign citizen" style nutjobs with very little popular support - until the russian weapons started flowing.[/QUOTE]
So you're saying that Russia selling weapons to rebels is a bad thing? Why is suddenly gaining money such a bad excuse?
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47190958]Ukrainian crisis started because of Euromaidan, not because of Putin's meddling. All Putin did was use an opportunity to cleanly take Crimea away, nothing more.[/QUOTE]
The Euromaidan ended successfully, despite the hundreds of civilians casualties, with the removal of Yanukovich from presidency.
The Ukranian Crisis is something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM THE EUROMAIDAN which started when RUSSIA deployed their army in Crimea and pulled for a rebellion.
This all started because what the people wanted (an EU pact) was denounced by government in support of closer ties with Russia + anti-protest and anti-assembly laws that culminated in Yanukovich fleeing like a pussy to Russia where he won't have to answer to the crimes of horribly mismanaging his countries finances and the murder of 100+ Ukrainian nationals.
Russia's been pissed because it's puppet in Ukraine fled and no one in the Ukrainian government wants to be subservient to Russia any more.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47190958]
So you're saying that Russia selling weapons to rebels is a bad thing? Why is suddenly gaining money such a bad excuse?[/QUOTE]
because it is a bad thing? what gives russia the right to interfere with the internal affairs of ukraine? none of this would've happened if russia hadn't chosen to arm radical nationalist nutjobs and straight up invade eastern ukraine.
the inter-ethnic conflict between ukrainians and ethnic russians was a domestic matter that would've probably been working towards a solution right now weren't it for the russian intervention.
[url]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=32b_1424621934[/url]
Another video from the attack.
[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;47190633]Oh yes, because Maidan was made by Putin, and not some guys opposing Yanukovich....
But seriously - it's stupid to claim everything on one entity, without even trying to investigate. Why not AlQuaeda, or ISIS?
[editline]22nd February 2015[/editline]
They are known to cause problems to even current government, as they are being forced to obey it. So I wouldn't deny this.[/QUOTE]
Oh hey, a brainwashed russian, I'm so surprised
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47190958]All Putin did was use an opportunity to cleanly take Crimea away, nothing more.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry to into Godwin mode, but this statement is like defending Hitler with the statement of "all Hitler did was to was use an opportunity to take Poland, nothing more". You say it so casually, and as if there was nothing wrong with it. Well, news flash: you don't just walk into another country and take their territory - even if you think you are justified. That's not how the world works any more.
And the "nothing more" bit is wrong anyway - as there are plenty of other illegal acts that Russia has committed. At the very least, it has been 99.99% proven that they are supplying the rebels with weapons and vehicles - and also probably providing soldiers as well.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47190958]
So you're saying that Russia selling weapons to rebels is a bad thing? Why is suddenly gaining money such a bad excuse?[/QUOTE]
You think they pay anything?
[QUOTE=gudman;47191370]You think they pay anything?[/QUOTE]
Not to mention they get paid to be there, some of them are still on their Russian Army contracts as well.
[QUOTE=MattSif;47191949]Not to mention they get paid to be there, some of them are still on their Russian Army contracts as well.[/QUOTE]
Nah. Those that [i]were[/i] are on unending leave.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47190958]All Putin did was use an opportunity to cleanly take Crimea away, nothing more.
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Bro u dont just take part of some1s country away when theyre having a bad day, thats super not cool.
Face punch bans are stupid.... really anoying let people comment fuck off
Targetting this people is sad fuck those people responsible for
For this post ill get like 10+dumb ratting
ANd i dont care fuck you too people7
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[QUOTE=jr;47192191]Face punch bans are stupid.... really anoying let people comment fuck off
Targetting this people is sad fuck those people responsible for
For this post ill get like 10+dumb ratting
ANd i dont care fuck you too people7[/QUOTE]
I keep reading this like a poem
russian posters are my favorite posters
[QUOTE=download;47190589]Targeting a peaceful protest is the lowest of the low.[/QUOTE]
russia has plenty of time practicing on the lgbt rallys. Seriously attacking a peaceful rally is the worst thing you can do, these arent trained soldiers.
[editline]22nd February 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=joshuadim;47190647]Typical Russian response, always being an apologist for your great tsar putin.[/QUOTE]
not all russian posters are apologists, look at me
though considering im a gay criminal im not the model russian
[QUOTE=Cornish;47193090]
though considering im a gay criminal im not the model russian[/QUOTE]
And you won't have kids to beat when you're drunk, not Russian at all.
[QUOTE=gudman;47193142]And you won't have kids to beat when you're drunk, not Russian at all.[/QUOTE]
Next we'll find out he doesn't like buckwheat.
[QUOTE=gudman;47191370]You think they pay anything?[/QUOTE]
Paying with region destabilization is good enough for Russia, in that regard.
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