• Democratic National Convention & Protests Super(delegate)thread - Goodbye, Bernie
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[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;50773928]Well it's not like the RNC didn't attack Hillary[/QUOTE] Ah right the Benghazi and movie stuff. Now that you think about it. You're right. I was just surprised to just a see a attack ad while the Benghazi stuff was more a topic at the RNC.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;50773936]he endorsed her [B]AFTER[/B] he helped push the democratic platform to its most progressive yet in history and knowing that trump presidency is very real & destroy the future of progressivism in the this country that is not fucking betrayal, thats being pragmatic & practical in the face of a possibility of his ideological opposite dismantling universal healthcare, stopping lgbt, and etc.[/QUOTE] Not to mention that again, even forgetting the whole platform compromise aspect even happened, he was a lot closer to Clinton's views than Trumps. If you think he "betrayed everything" by endorsing her, wait until you find out how close their voting records aligned.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;50773938]Signal jammers are illegal. Also if you use one and it blocks a 911 call, you're also liable for any injuries.[/QUOTE] It's the DNC so is that really relevant?
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;50773912]I'm glad social media exists for people to post this blatant manipulation Now how long until they put a signal jammer at the convention?[/QUOTE] Thank god the Trump campaign didn't do something manipulative like lie to Vilerat's mother to try and win people by a false emotional appeal.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;50773938]Signal jammers are illegal. Also if you use one and it blocks a 911 call, you're also liable for any injuries.[/QUOTE] They'll try to find some way to censor social media posts
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;50773938]Signal jammers are illegal. Also if you use one and it blocks a 911 call, you're also liable for any injuries.[/QUOTE] It wouldn't surprise me if that didn't stop them.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;50773908]You're ignoring the fact that by endorsing and still declaring that Hillary must be voted that he has, in my eyes, betrayed everything he has spoken up against in months before. At this point while he still says these things at the DNC, what's not to say he was even being truthful the whole time?[/QUOTE] Because he's not incompetent. He, unlike a lot of his supporters apparently, understands that dividing the party is the fastest way to get somebody that holds the exact opposite of his ideals into office. I don't understand how people can praise him as much as they have and the second he does something THAT HE SAID HE WOULD DO FROM THE BEGINNING, everybody screams betrayal. Feel free to vote Trump if you truly believe that he will lead this country into a better future. I'm going to suck it up and help hold on to the small victories that Bernie did manage to secure.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50773954]Thank god the Trump campaign didn't do something manipulative like lie to Vilerat's mother to try and win people by a false emotional appeal.[/QUOTE] That's incomparable to the DNC quieting people who don't play along with the script [editline].[/editline] One of their major points is that they are the democratic party, while doing exactly the opposite
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;50773938]Signal jammers are illegal. Also if you use one and it blocks a 911 call, you're also liable for any injuries.[/QUOTE] Oh well, the DNC has never done anything illegal before
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50773760]... [I]They're the two major candidates in the election, who the fuck else do I compare them to?[/I][/QUOTE] That was my problem too after Sanders lost California last June. With Hillary and Trump left and no other option, what could I choose? I already knew Hillary was corrupt, and I wasn't a fan of Trump, but I was curious (and again, I didn't want to waste my vote). So I saw RIPBILLYMAYS posting about Trump in an SH thread and talked to him about it. Sometimes you just gotta pick with what's left after your good hand busts, then just go with it. Some folks go for Hillary because they don't like Trump. I'm going for Trump because I don't like Hillary.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;50773966]That's incomparable to the DNC quieting people who don't play along with the script [editline].[/editline] One of their major points is that they are the democratic party, while doing exactly the opposite[/QUOTE] You're right, lying to a mother about her dead son for political gain is worse.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;50773900]lmao what i was saying how its stupid it is to be a sanders supporter because of his policies rather than sole anti-establishment reason to being a trump supporter because you like his policies too[/QUOTE]Yes, I know. Just because you're having difficulty doesn't mean everyone else is, I'm fully capable of remembering our conversation. (or scrolling up) [QUOTE]you come out and say there are things that bernie & trump has in common[/QUOTE]I said somebody could identify with both. [QUOTE]i asked how since everything sanders has proposed is outright denied and contested by the RNC platform and their speeches[/QUOTE]No, you listed policies of Bernie Sanders and asked if Trump supported them. I never claimed that. [QUOTE]then you post that lolwut[/QUOTE]Because you have trouble reading and comprehending the simple concept of empathy. I'm not even making a case for why anyone should support Trump or not vote for Hillary, I'm just pointing out to you that it's possible to value the opinions of both Trump and Bernie for a variety of reasons. Your panties are so tightly bound right now over nothing, I don't know why. [QUOTE=Raidyr;50773922]I'll give you second amendment but what wasteful spending needs to be cut in the executive branch..[/QUOTE]I don't know, but by definition it shouldn't be there if it does actually exist. [QUOTE] Quoted: Someone who doesn't know how NATO works. [/QUOTE]It's a defense organization, the strategic doctrines of several countries boil down to this: survive until the USA shows up. I don't think this is a smart policy, especially if we ditch NATO which I think we should. [B](in addition to relinquishing the title of "world police")[/B]
[QUOTE=plunger435;50773984]You're right, lying to a mother about her dead son for political gain is worse.[/QUOTE] I think fixing an election is worse
This guy is a good speaker and considering that the only thing the Democrats can agree on as a whole is "fuck Trump" this is going very well
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;50773974]That was my problem too after Sanders lost California last June. With Hillary and Trump left and no other option, what could I choose? I already knew Hillary was corrupt, and I wasn't a fan of Trump, but I was curious (and again, I didn't want to waste my vote). So I saw RIPBILLYMAYS posting about Trump in an SH thread and talked to him about it. Sometimes you just gotta pick with what's left after your good hand busts, then just go with it. Some folks go for Hillary because they don't like Trump. I'm going for Trump because I don't like Hillary.[/QUOTE] Your knowledge of Trump comes from RIPBILLYMAYS? Do your own fucking research. Jesus. I hated Hillary and I've now spent hours and hours researching her topics and reading op-eds on both sides of the aisle and now I think she'd be a capable and moderately progressive president even though I still dislike her character. Neither of you understand policy and both of you treat the presidential election like a goddamn reality TV show. No wonder.
[QUOTE=smurfy;50773935]It was Democratic voters who chose to put an unlikeable candidate on their ticket, not the DNC[/QUOTE] Superdelegates put her over the top. If they truly cared about electability then they had their chance.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50773934]"cutting spending" is something every politician says theyll do and then they struggle to make good on the promise. most likely is that he will increase spending, especially with a belligerent and childish foreign policy in addition to building giant walls[/QUOTE]Good thing I'm not voting for Trump then.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;50773995]I think fixing an election is worse[/QUOTE] Are we watching the same video where some guy hands the worker a small bumper sticker with no fuss?
[QUOTE=Laferio;50773847]If you're having to come into threads telling people how stupid/pigeon/whatever for voting trump then don't even bother posting. You DIDN'T convince them otherwise, you WON'T convince them otherwise, and you're being a pretty sad person if you think adding dumb prefixes are gonna win you any kind of brownie points. Low and behold, Raidyr, master of facepunch debates. See how stupid that sounds?[/QUOTE] He really isn't. To be honest it's just making my resolve in Trump even stronger seeing how aggressive people get by just saying "I kinda like Donald Trump and Think Hillary is not trustworthy".
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50773989]Yes, I know. Just because you're having difficulty doesn't mean everyone else is, I'm fully capable of remembering our conversation. (or scrolling up) I said somebody could identify with both. No, you listed policies of Bernie Sanders and asked if Trump supported them. I never claimed that. Because you have trouble reading and comprehending the simple concept of empathy. I'm not even making a case for why anyone should support Trump or not vote for Hillary, I'm just pointing out to you that it's possible to value the opinions of both Trump and Bernie for a variety of reasons. Your panties are so tightly bound right now over nothing, I don't know why. [/QUOTE] identify with what lmao i already said if you solely supported sanders and now trump because you just hate the establishment, then okay but identify what? what policies intertwine with each other? how are they similar in what ways in manner of policies? geez m8, r u ok, ur having trouble too :>
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;50773974]That was my problem too after Sanders lost California last June. With Hillary and Trump left and no other option, what could I choose? I already knew Hillary was corrupt, and I wasn't a fan of Trump, but I was curious (and again, I didn't want to waste my vote). So I saw RIPBILLYMAYS posting about Trump in an SH thread and talked to him about it. Sometimes you just gotta pick with what's left after your good hand busts, then just go with it. Some folks go for Hillary because they don't like Trump. I'm going for Trump because I don't like Hillary.[/QUOTE] "I'm voting for Trump because unlike Hillary Clinton, he shits directly into my face."
I think Hillary would at least keep the status quo for 4 more years, Trump is a wild card and that scares us in Europe. We who rely on NATO to back us up in case of further instabilities in our region.
I'm gonna request we douse the flame war and focus on the shitstorm unfolding at the DNC
[QUOTE=FezianEmperor;50774025]I think Hillary would at least keep the status quo for 4 more years, Trump is a wild card and that scares us in Europe. We who rely on NATO to back us up in case of further instabilities in our region.[/QUOTE] You don't speak for the entire Europe.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;50774013]He really isn't. To be honest it's just making my resolve in Trump even stronger seeing how aggressive people get by just saying "I kinda like Donald Trump and Think Hillary is not trustworthy".[/QUOTE] It's a bit telling if there are pages of people asking you which policies you liked from Sanders and now Trump that you choose to ignore every time in favor of the blanket response of, "Trump jobs, Hillary bad." If you don't want people to question your beliefs why come into the DNC thread and so emphatically espouse them.
[QUOTE=FezianEmperor;50774025]I think Hillary would at least keep the status quo for 4 more years, Trump is a wild card and that scares us in Europe. We who rely on NATO to back us up in case of further instabilities in our region.[/QUOTE] There's an argument for being able to handle affairs on your own but I will save that for another time.
More folks posting about the signs and threats of getting kicked-out/barred to the delegates. [thumb]http://imgur.com/WWSwjN7.png[/thumb]
Watching this only pushes me further away from the Democrats. It's absolutely disgusting that they proclaim themselves as the democratic and "for the people" party, while having fixed the nomination a year ago. [editline]25th July 2016[/editline] I honestly don't know if I can bring myself to vote Hillary in order to vote against Trump anymore
[QUOTE=FezianEmperor;50774025]I think Hillary would at least keep the status quo for 4 more years, Trump is a wild card and that scares us in Europe. We who rely on NATO to back us up in case of further instabilities in our region.[/QUOTE] I'd rather have that Merkel 2.0 stays as far away from the White House as humanely possible. Seriously, one Merkel is already disastrous enough for the West, let alone two at the same time. If Trump has to be the POTUS for at least four year to prevent that, so be it. Don't make the same mistakes like Germany did.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;50774047]Watching this only pushes me further away from the Democrats. It's absolutely disgusting that they proclaim themselves as the democratic and "for the people" party, while having fixed the nomination a year ago. [editline]25th July 2016[/editline] I honestly don't know if I can bring myself to vote Hillary in order to vote against Trump anymore[/QUOTE] Then vote third party, probably the Green Party if they're in your state.
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