Democratic National Convention & Protests Super(delegate)thread - Goodbye, Bernie
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[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;50774047]Watching this only pushes me further away from the Democrats. It's absolutely disgusting that they proclaim themselves as the democratic and "for the people" party, while having fixed the nomination a year ago.
[editline]25th July 2016[/editline]
I honestly don't know if I can bring myself to vote Hillary in order to vote against Trump anymore[/QUOTE]
I hope you go out to vote, regardless of your ultimate decision. We need higher voter turnout in our country.
Steelworkers that will be replaced by machines.
[QUOTE=Firgof Umbra;50774043]More folks posting about the signs and threats of getting kicked-out/barred to the delegates.
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What's the source on everything after "Don't embarrass Texas"?
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50773989]
I don't know, but by definition it shouldn't be there if it does actually exist.[/QUOTE]
Brilliant. You don't know if there is wasteful spending, you are just going with whatever Trump says.
Maybe wasteful spending is EPA and DoE employees. Eh, who needs clean water and educated children. Lets terrorize the executive branch :goodjob:
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50773989]It's a defense organization, the strategic doctrines of several countries boil down to this: survive until the USA shows up. I don't think this is a smart policy, especially if we ditch NATO which I think we should. [B](in addition to relinquishing the title of "world police")[/B][/QUOTE]
This post does nothing to convince me that in the time before reading my own and hitting Submit Reply that you so much as even skimmed the wiki article on NATO.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50774002]Good thing I'm not voting for Trump then.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;50774013]He really isn't. To be honest it's just making my resolve in Trump even stronger seeing how aggressive people get by just saying "I kinda like Donald Trump and Think Hillary is not trustworthy".[/QUOTE]
Similarly to Cody, I'm not really trying to target you so much as use your posts as a springboard for further discussion. I don't think anything I've personally posted has been overly aggressive, but then again Trump supporters do tend to be pretty brittle. You didn't just say you liked Trump and think Hillary is untrustworthy, you trotted out Benghazi, the thing that 8 different investigations have cleared her of wrongdoing for.
I don't comfort myself knowing that I've converted someone to my political viewpoint, I'm content enough knowing that my logic is soundly backed up by fact.
Voting for Hillary because she isn't overtly racist. If you're anti-establishment that's all well and good but if you're willing to throw minorities under the bus for your cause you can piss right off.
"If you voted for Hillary, this is your victory."
*applause*
"And if you voted for Bernie Sanders, this is your victory too."
*boo*
Got it, fight the establishment now checked off
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[QUOTE=Jim Morrison;50774000]Superdelegates put her over the top. If they truly cared about electability then they had their chance.[/QUOTE]
Putting aside the morality of having the superdelegates overrule the will of the voters to nominate Sanders, how do you think the 2,204 pledged Clinton delegates at the convention would respond to that?
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50774002]Good thing I'm not voting for Trump then.[/QUOTE]
Bruh you can't say "I like some of Trumps policies" then when you name one and someone explains why it's inconclusive say "Well I'm not voting for him". Clearly that's a policy you probably shouldn't support then.
rofl that Trump clip
that was the lowest attempt at an attack ad I've seen, they spliced it right before there would be laughter or playing it off as a joke
Going through the roof means wife beating is that what they were trying to refer it to, in sense of marriage?
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50774091]rofl that Trump clip
that was the lowest attempt at an attack ad I've seen, they spliced it right before there would be laughter or playing it off as a joke[/QUOTE]
You must never have seen "You didn't build that"
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;50774013]He really isn't. To be honest it's just making my resolve in Trump even stronger seeing how aggressive people get by just saying "I kinda like Donald Trump and Think Hillary is not trustworthy".[/QUOTE]
I want you to understand why I hate you
I don't hate you because of what you believe, I hate you because of [I]why[/I] you believe it
and it's not just you or just trump supporters that I hate. I hate every fucking person who justifies their beliefs for the reasons you justify yours. Whether those beliefs are right or wrong. Because that kind of ignorance and credulity inevitably leads to disaster.
You, a desperate person who just wants a job, end up fucking yourself because you just accept whatever [I]feels[/I] right. You walk yourself right off the edge of a fucking cliff, and there's nothing I can say or do that will convince you to do otherwise. Even if you weren't, even if by chance you were actually right, eventually you will. Because that's what happens when you blind yourself and walk in whatever direction you feel like walking. Eventually you fall into a pit.
It's like watching children climbing into barrels of mercury, ignoring your warnings that it will fucking kill them because "this stuff looks really neat".
I really wish I was just some jaded sociopath who didn't give a fuck about anyone but myself. Then I wouldn't feel this horrible twisting feeling in my gut every time I look outside and watch a bunch of desperate, innocent, slack jawed idiots give their future and their family's futures away to some psychopathic con artist with a fancy outfit and a clever tongue.
I just can't take this shit anymore
Also with the governor speech I believe that refugees was invoked
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[QUOTE=smurfy;50774083]Putting aside the morality of having the superdelegates overrule the will of the voters to nominate Sanders, how do you think the 2,204 pledged Clinton delegates at the convention would respond to that?[/QUOTE]
They'd likely be upset? I would understand why, too. What I'm saying is you can't blame Sanders supporters if the Democrats lose. That's just preposterous, because the party had the opportunity to nominate someone who had a much better chance at defeating Donald Trump. You can call it immoral to the will of the voters but that opportunity was there.
[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;50773881]Again, how in hell do you force them to do that[/QUOTE]
You pull it out of foreign aid funding
[QUOTE=phygon;50774121]You pull it out of foreign aid funding[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't be nearly enough to cover the construction or even yearly maintenance costs.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50774066]What's the source on everything after "Don't embarrass Texas"?[/QUOTE]
It's off Trent Champ's Facebook timeline. [url]https://www.facebook.com/trent.champ[/url]
He's at the DNC convention right now.
In the end, it's not Trumps campaign that will win people over, it will be Hillary's campaign and the actions of the DNC that can cause him to win.
[QUOTE=phygon;50774121]You pull it out of foreign aid funding[/QUOTE]
And last time I checked, Mexico is quite dependent on American aid funding, especially for human rights organisations, because most European countries withdrew their support because one exceptionally dumb broad who is somehow seen as an inspiration to Clinton kicked the continent's borders wide open without even taking any risks into account last year.
Would also increase immigration, as would any attempt that would compromise economic stability/welfare programs in Mexico.
With immigration from Mexico currently on a decline I'd say this is a misguided move. I'm all for border security but it needs to be realistic.
[QUOTE=Jordax;50774061]I'd rather have that Merkel 2.0 stays as far away from the White House as humanely possible.
Seriously, one Merkel is already disastrous enough for the West, let alone two at the same time. If Trump has to be the POTUS for at least four year to prevent that, so be it. Don't make the same mistakes like Germany did.[/QUOTE]
how is hillary anything like merkel
[QUOTE=Raidyr;50774125]Wouldn't be nearly enough to cover the construction or even yearly maintenance costs.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, he can always steal the remittances of hard working Latinos
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;50774139]how is hillary anything like merkel[/QUOTE]
She's opening the door for illegal immigrants to have the same rights as american people. She's opening up for more immigration. Rings a bell yet?
Think of the chilrin
Is the woman behind, her own mom?
[QUOTE=Firgof Umbra;50774132]It's off Trent Champ's Facebook timeline. [url]https://www.facebook.com/trent.champ[/url]
He's at the DNC convention right now.[/QUOTE]
Link doesn't take me anywhere, nor does he has any say at what happens at the DNC.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;50774020]identify with what lmao[/QUOTE]I don't know.
[QUOTE]i already said if you solely supported sanders and now trump because you just hate the establishment, then okay[/QUOTE][QUOTE]but identify what? what policies intertwine with each other? how are they similar in what ways in manner of policies?[/QUOTE][I]I don't know.[/I] I'm not even arguing for why a Bernie supporter could switch to Trump, I'm just saying it's possible and apparently you're so offended because your posting quality is taking a nose dive:[QUOTE]geez m8, r u ok, ur having trouble too :>[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FezianEmperor;50774025]I think Hillary would at least keep the status quo for 4 more years, Trump is a wild card and that scares us in Europe. We who rely on NATO to back us up in case of further instabilities in our region.[/QUOTE][B]Good.[/B] You deserve to be fearful because relying on another country to protect your sovereignty is fucking stupid. Oh, and I'm saying that as some kooky, wacky practicing Germanic heathen who hugs himself every night stinking of fish and potatoes like a good Scandinavian.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;50774067]Brilliant. You don't know if there is wasteful spending, you are just going with whatever Trump says.
Maybe wasteful spending is EPA and DoE employees. Eh, who needs clean water and educated children. Lets terrorize the executive branch :goodjob:[/QUOTE]You asked me what positions Trump has that I might possibly support, I answered, being immature isn't going to turn me into a mentally retarded "progressive."
[QUOTE]This post does nothing to convince me that in the time before reading my own and hitting Submit Reply that you so much as even skimmed the wiki article on NATO.[/QUOTE]I truly don't care. I heavily lean toward isolationism and this haughty, sanctimonious bullshit isn't going to change that.
[QUOTE]Similarly to Cody, I'm not really trying to target you so much as use your posts as a springboard for further discussion.[/QUOTE]Really now. Well I'm not seeing a discussion, all that you've done is insult people for either voting for Trump or [I]merely saying it's possible to have good reasons for supporting Trump.[/I]
[QUOTE]I don't comfort myself knowing that I've converted someone to my political viewpoint, I'm content enough knowing that my logic is soundly backed up by fact.[/QUOTE]Then what the fuck are you doing here? Shitposting?
[QUOTE=Raidyr;50774084]Bruh you can't say "I like some of Trumps policies" then when you name one and someone explains why it's inconclusive say "Well I'm not voting for him". Clearly that's a policy you probably shouldn't support then.[/QUOTE]I can. I like his policy, but I don't think he can effectively do it so I'm not going to vote for him. Did you even think about this before you posted it?
[B]"Do we want a responsible leader?"[/B]
Not this election :vs:
[QUOTE=FezianEmperor;50774150]Is the woman behind, her own mom?[/QUOTE]
Sister. Sadly I got a chuckle out of that chat when someone asked "Is that a dude standing behind her?"
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