Democratic National Convention & Protests Super(delegate)thread - Goodbye, Bernie
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[QUOTE=Laferio;50779692]Man this election looks pretty tough.
Can't believe I'm tossing my hat in for trump but oh well I guess.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=hexpunK;50779687]To be perfectly fair; the DNC being awful and trying their hardest to rig everything in her favour only actually reflects badly on her if, and only if, she can be proven to be complicit in the whole thing. Organising, helping or otherwise endorsing the behaviour.
It's not something to be held against her otherwise, rather the people involved. As is the case with any attempts at rigging something.
I mean, they didn't do a super great job considering how close Sanders actually got in the end.[/QUOTE]
How could she not be aware of the rigging? You honestly think that they would just rig the elections in hope that she would run, or do so without her knowledge or consent? How delusional are you dood?
I am not for Trump as well. It just seems so unmoral to vote Clinton into office IMO.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50779631]Dood, the common man can't do anything about Hillary being blatantly guilty and the FBI refusing to press charges. Joe Shmo can't take her to court unless she criminally wronged him; Her crimes are against the US government, and despite her having done wrong and the Investigation proven she did wrong, they decided not to press charges, for whatever reason~.
And honestly yea, if someone is under criminal investigation, especially for crimes of treason and crimes against the US Govt., they they shouldn't be able to run for political office of any sort. It's pretty ridiculous that one would think it's ok for people who are being criminally investigated to run for office. Redoing the election at this point isn't a bad idea since this has been one of the worst elections in US history, if not the worst.[/QUOTE]
Hilary was SO GUILTY that the FBI didn't recommend people pressing charges.
There was no crime here, the fact that you continue to say so even after the FBI cleared her of criminal charges shows that you don't actually care about what was said, just the potential for her to be taken out of the race.
[QUOTE]they decided not to press charges, for whatever reason~.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Hilary Clinton has the influence to control the entire FBI. :downs:
[QUOTE=Raidyr;50779704]I'd say recognizing that climate change is occurring and raising the minimum wage is a lot more in peoples best interest than not those things.[/QUOTE]
Not if you don't believe in climate change and not raising minimum wage? You gotta accept the fact that a lot of Americans are fucking stupid dood.
I heard there's a conspiracy that trump is a hilary plant.
But what if... hilary, is a trump plant?
[QUOTE=Laferio;50779692]Man this election looks pretty tough.
Can't believe I'm tossing my hat in for trump but oh well I guess.[/QUOTE]
Why?
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50779707]How could she not be aware of the rigging? You honestly think that they would just rig the elections in hope that she would run, or do so without her knowledge or consent? How delusional are you dood?[/QUOTE]
On the one hand I personally find it unlikely to think that her campaign wasn't aware. As the establishment choice I'd imagine she would be kept in the loop regarding these things, especially from DWS herself.
On the other hand, it's interesting that no paper trail has been established so far from the DNC hacks, which I think is interesting.
[QUOTE=Streecer;50779713]Hilary was SO GUILTY that the FBI didn't recommend people pressing charges.
There was no crime here, the fact that you continue to say so even after the FBI cleared her of criminal charges shows that you don't actually care about what was said, just the potential for her to be taken out of the race.
Yes, Hilary Clinton has the influence to control the entire FBI. :downs:[/QUOTE]
Even if it wasn't declared a crime, do you not see an issue with mishandling classified information? Especially since the info she mishandled was above the Top Secret level?
[QUOTE=Laferio;50779692]Man this election looks pretty tough.
Can't believe I'm tossing my hat in for trump but oh well I guess.[/QUOTE]
for trump? good heavens why of all people?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50779731]for trump? good heavens why of all people?[/QUOTE]
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Am I the only one getting annoyed at everyone speaking giving a history and culture lesson?
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50779715]Not if you don't believe in climate change and not raising minimum wage? You gotta accept the fact that a lot of Americans are fucking stupid dood.[/QUOTE]
That's not what you said though, you said neither candidate is in peoples best interest. Recognizing and adapting to climate change is objectively in peoples best interest whether they believe it or not.
[QUOTE=Streecer;50779713]Hilary was SO GUILTY that the FBI didn't recommend people pressing charges.
There was no crime here, the fact that you continue to say so even after the FBI cleared her of criminal charges shows that you don't actually care about what was said, just the potential for her to be taken out of the race.[/quote]
Dood, the Director of the FBI said that there was evidence of mishandling classified information and that he thought she was negligent and careless, but didn't press charges. He even said that if a member of the FBI did the same thing, that person would be in handcuffs. But naw, she's not guilty.
[QUOTE=Streecer;50779713]
Yes, Hilary Clinton has the influence to control the entire FBI. :downs:[/QUOTE]
Yea lol, the way the FBI decides if criminal charges are filed is they get EVERY FBI member to vote and if it isn't unanimous, they can't press charges. Thats how it works.
Dood, I don't think you understand how corruption works and how far a bribe to the top brass can go.
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;50779744]Am I the only one getting annoyed at every speaking giving a history and culture lesson?[/QUOTE]
they did this at the RNC too, it gets old but I fund it hilarious that both the Republicans and Democrats claim greatness over many of the same things in their states lol
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;50779726]At this point it's more likely Bernie is a Hillary plant[/QUOTE]
The reality is they are all plants.
Mastermind Vermin Supreme reigns above all.
[QUOTE]why trump[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50779743]best memes and a [B]warm community[/B][/QUOTE]
this has to be a joke
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50779730]Even if it wasn't declared a crime, do you not see an issue with mishandling classified information? Especially since the info she handled was above the Top Secret level?[/QUOTE]
I do see an issue with it. A department wide issue that Clinton participated in.
However, to say that mishandling an email server is something that is so dastardly, so evil that your only choice is to vote for a bigoted, xenophobic, isolationist, dishonest, scam artist tangerine is hilarious.
I'd be all for her getting charged [i]after[/i] she wins the election, that way Trump doesn't win
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50779730]Even if it wasn't declared a crime, do you not see an issue with mishandling classified information? Especially since the info she mishandled [B]was above the Top Secret level?[/B][/QUOTE]
Uh, Top Secret is as high as clearance levels get, SCI and SAP are lateral.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50779743]best memes and a warm community[/QUOTE]
i'm not even sure if people are ironic anymore or not
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50779747]Dood, the Director of the FBI said that there was evidence of mishandling classified information and that he thought she was negligent and careless, but didn't press charges. He even said that if a member of the FBI did the same thing, that person would be in handcuffs. But naw, she's not guilty. [/QUOTE]
So you know nothing about the case, thanks for letting us know.
Here's a tip, there's a difference between a felony, and administrative sanctions, look it up or maybe even listen to the speech that the director gave on the report. Nowhere was this ever said.
Clinton is officially the Democratic nominee
[media]https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/758069086895177728[/media]
[QUOTE=Raidyr;50779729]Why?
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Is it better to vote for a career politician who has cheated, rigged the system, pandered, and flip flopped, or vote for an egotistical, bigoted, foolish, outsider with no political experience?
James Comey is a republican from the Reagan days.
He looked at Clintons "crimes" and gave her a pass.
A [B]fucking reagan conservative gave her a pass[/B]
no matter how much I want to believe she's guilty, she's probably not guilty.
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50779730]Even if it wasn't declared a crime, do you not see an issue with mishandling classified information? Especially since the info she mishandled was above the Top Secret level?[/QUOTE]
I've said as much before that it reflects poorly on her character and judgement. The only problem is that to me personally it ranks well below a lot of the things Trump has done or called for. If you consider her server a national security issue then I'd say I would much rather have a president who didn't keep documents stored correctly than the guy who is telling Russia that we won't honor our NATO obligations.
I'm also fairly confident it's a mistake that probably won't (can't?) be made again should she become president.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50779777]James Comey is a republican from the Reagan days.
He looked at Clintons "crimes" and gave her a pass.
A [B]fucking reagan conservative gave her a pass[/B]
no matter how much I want to believe she's guilty, she's probably not guilty.[/QUOTE]
guilty of what?
So delegates [i]have[/i] to adhere to the results from the primaries, right? Why are people talking about Sanders being placed in nomination? Not a rhetorical question, is there some scenario I don't know about where the results are still contested?
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;50779773]Is it better to vote for a career politician who has cheated, rigged the system, pandered, and flip flopped, or vote for an egotistical, bigoted, foolish, outsider with no political experience?[/QUOTE]
I guess the takeaway here is that I don't look at the candidates in terms like these, I look at what they promised and what they are likely to achieve given the current political climate and I'm forced to go with Clinton. Trump's policy is so bad that I'd be willing to hop the aisle and vote for a Kasich or maybe even a Johnson at this point.
[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;50779788]So delegates [i]have[/i] to adhere to the results from the primaries, right? Why are people talking about Sanders being placed in nomination? Not a rhetorical question, is there some scenario I don't know about where the results are still contested?[/QUOTE]
State primaries determine who the state nominates, so when they come up and say, "We nominate Sanders." they mean Sanders won the state primary.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50779777]James Comey is a republican from the Reagan days.
He looked at Clintons "crimes" and gave her a pass.
A [B]fucking reagan conservative gave her a pass[/B]
no matter how much I want to believe she's guilty, she's probably not guilty.[/QUOTE]
No but if we take her to court again we'll nail her this time!
[10 years later]
No but if we take her to court again we'll nail her this time!
This is quite literally going to be Benghazi 2, the sequel nobody with a fucking ounce of sense asked for and the legal system is already preparing judges for just so they can get it over with faster.
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