• Democratic National Convention & Protests Super(delegate)thread - Goodbye, Bernie
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[QUOTE=srobins;50781353]I don't disagree with you, I'm just saying the fact that Hillary is 100% irrelevant to her ability to be president (ironically enough), but it still plays a pretty huge role in her campaign. Everything I saw from tonight was all about women and breaking glass ceilings and showing that women are this and women are that.. It's pretty clear the Clinton campaign know how to milk Hillary's vagina.[/QUOTE] Can you blame women for being excited about such a thing? I can't really relate being a man, but the idea of the other half of the world's population finally having some representation at the highest level of the political system is a pretty exciting thing for a lot of women. Regardless of who it is, the first female president will serve as a role model for girls who may potentially be inspired to go into politics. It takes away some of the stigma of politics being a career only for men.
[QUOTE=elfbarf;50781429]Can you blame women for being excited about such a thing? I can't really relate being a man, but the idea of the other half of the world's population finally having some representation at the highest level of the political system is a pretty exciting thing for a lot of women. Regardless of who it is, the first female president will serve as a role model for girls who may potentially be inspired to go into politics. It takes away some of the stigma of politics being a career only for men.[/QUOTE] It's been a long time since politics was "only for men", I don't think the country needs to scrape the bottom of the barrel by electing someone like Clinton just so the world's most cynical little girls can have some cliche moment of realization that they too can be president. Ignoring all of Hillary's faults just to elect a woman president is extremely greedy and irresponsible imo.
CSPAN caller: [quote]Yeah well I was listening to Bill Clinton tell his story tonight, and my mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets. I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken nuggets out of her hand.[/quote] The lady cut him off and went to the next caller.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50781459]CSPAN caller: The lady cut him off and went to the next caller.[/QUOTE] I think this is a reference to a real story from last night about a Bernie supporter assaulting his mother for getting the wrong chicken nuggets and then getting arrested. That actually happened.
wait [I]what[/I] I thought it was somebody memeposting over the phone. Link to that?
[QUOTE=srobins;50781449]It's been a long time since politics was "only for men", I don't think the country needs to scrape the bottom of the barrel by electing someone like Clinton just so the world's most cynical little girls can have some cliche moment of realization that they too can be president. Ignoring all of Hillary's faults just to elect a woman president is extremely greedy and irresponsible imo.[/QUOTE] Sure, adults realize that, but children don't. Children don't know much about politics and the most visible politicians in the US are still mostly men. Never has a young girl been able to look at a list of presidents to see anyone who looks like her. It may not mean much to you or me, but I can at least see how it would be inspiring to someone else and why women want it to happen.
[QUOTE=elfbarf;50781490]Sure, adults realize that, but children don't. Children don't know much about politics and the most visible politicians in the US are still mostly men. Never has a young girl been able to look at a list of presidents to see anyone who looks like her. It may not mean much to you or me, but I can at least see how it would be inspiring to someone else.[/QUOTE] No, I mean, I get it. I totally get that it's inspiring. I just feel like that should be more of a bonus than a deciding factor, you know? The one thing I can say as a man (as this is sort of a universal thing), I'm disappointed that someone as undeserving as Hillary Clinton will go down in history as the first woman president. It seems extremely unjust that she will be given that honor throughout history.
[QUOTE=srobins;50781472]I think this is a reference to a real story from last night about a Bernie supporter assaulting his mother for getting the wrong chicken nuggets and then getting arrested. That actually happened.[/QUOTE] That was someone from /pol/ shitposting on r/s4p.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;50781408]democrats or pretty much any left-wing parties sees black on black crime as economic and social issue they dont see it as an individual issue and being only one reason why its so high, but rather a multi-issue problem with tons of different context example: Why are there crime in the ghettos? It's usually drug or gang related Why are so many people in gangs? Not enough parental figures and lack of community outreach What can we do to improve that? Use welfare to support families in low-income areas so they work less or at least spend time around their children and use government funds to support community centers etc. and by taking care of their essential survival needs like rent, food, and among others, they feel less inclined into believing they have to commit crimes or sell drugs to buy basic essentials. its not always a -> b, its always more complex than that but thats the gist of it and the left generally believes that authority officials should be held to a higher standard & have misdeeds acknowledged they see it as a pragmatic thing, you dont want a group already having misgivings about cops believe they're killing black folks, and nobody is giving a damn about you or them[/QUOTE] That's exactly what causes these problems. American black culture is being destroyed by the welfare state. It rewards or at the very least allows single mothers to raise their kids, which is part of the reason so many black kids are fatherless. These kids grow up poor, without a father, and these men learn from their mothers how to live as MEN. Every single one of my black friends either doesn't have a dad or barely knows them at best. It's destroying them, and the dependence on welfare only continues this. What you thinking is helping and upholding the black community is really keeping them down.
[video=youtube;xHqITGYj0_I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHqITGYj0_I[/video]
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50781814][video=youtube;xHqITGYj0_I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHqITGYj0_I[/video][/QUOTE] "People who forgot to get guest passes like everyone else not allowed in, more at 10." Even the RND rightly did the same exact thing?
I am back Now let me sum up my feelings about today's events: [B][U] DNC DAY 2: Panders Without Sanders [/U][/B] Lots more music videos in this, like it was the BET Awards: DNC edition. Like I get they need time to prep speakers and equipment, but at least Trump and Company kept it on schedule with the hired band, not the trash band they got. Actually, maybe they changed it because the band was bad last night, IDK The Mothers of the Movement segment was honestly a lot better than I expected, lot calmer, and a idea to work WITH police and the community, not rioting for equal options. Though some people are still mad and will still say that "MOST COPS ARE GOOD FOR SHOOTING NOTHING ELSE" Why is this chick still talking, get me to the Bill Man, man. Bill Clinton! Awesome speech. One of the better speakers of the DNC, up there with Booker in terms of good stuff. Shame the rest were kinda meh-tier to god shut the fuck up-tier That acapella section was dumb. Actually, lets not even call it that, it was one of the weakest moments of the DNC so far. The rap section made me and my home boys cringe a bit. Lets throw a hit piece at the male electorate right in the middle of the unifying video. The Revolutionary war thing made me actually kinda mad. Strep calling Hillary the FIRST president with "grit" made me think that the speechwriters got into full 'TUMBLR WILL EAT THIS UP' mode. Like seriously, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, even H.W. Bush? Any of those ring a bell? The montage with the glass breaking thing made no sense. If anything, Trump can use that as ammo for scare-ads. "Hillary promises to unify the US, but how can we trust her, when she wants to break the traditions of progress and honesty" or something along those lines Sander supporters are rioting? We might have something interesting happen on Day 3. I mean they got pepper sprayed and were banging on the fence and shit ON NATIONAL TV. [B][U] AUDIO ISSUES! WE HAVE A BINGO! BINGO BINGO! [/U][/B] Overall, It was worse than I expected, but Bill Clinton helped to redeem it a bit.
Has there been less booing on day 2? Don't have time to watch the replay right now.
[QUOTE=CasualTR;50782059]Has there been less booing on day 2? Don't have time to watch the replay right now.[/QUOTE] There was, they supposedly kicked out the sanders delegates after the rollcall
A bunch of Sanders supporters keep trying to climb the fence now after burning a few US flags and comparing themselves to the actual hardcore 1968 DNC protests.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50782066]A bunch of Sanders supporters keep trying to climb the fence now after burning a few US flags and comparing themselves to the actual hardcore 1968 DNC protests.[/QUOTE] To be fair, it being revealed that a candidate basically bought and paid for the nomination is cause enough for some pretty hardcore protesting. [editline]27th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50781303]Same mentality that let Obama secure 96% of the black vote against Romney(?)[/QUOTE] I don't know if you're self-aware enough to realize what you just implied.
[QUOTE=archangel125;50782104]To be fair, it being revealed that a candidate basically bought and paid for the nomination is cause enough for some pretty hardcore protesting. [editline]27th July 2016[/editline] I don't know if you're self-aware enough to realize what you just implied.[/QUOTE] A few people got lightly pepper sprayed for jumping over the fence into the police line, it doesn't compare at all to the 1968 DNC protests where so much tear gas was used the entirety of Grant Park and the surrounding buildings became flooded with it. Not to mention the front running nominee wasn't robbed of the election by a conspiracy, but literally assassinated.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50782126]A few people got lightly pepper sprayed for jumping over the fence into the police line, it doesn't compare at all to the 1968 DNC protests where so much tear gas was used the entirety of Grant Park and the surrounding buildings became flooded with it.[/QUOTE] True! In which case I think it damn well should. [editline]27th July 2016[/editline] Government and the major political parties have become too damn cocky. As Mark Twain once wrote: [quote][I]For in a republic, who is "the Country"? Is it the Government which is for the moment in the saddle? Why, the Government is merely a servant--merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a patriot and who isn't. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them. Who, then, is "the Country"? Is it the newspaper? is it the pulpit? is it the school superintendent? Why, these are mere parts of the country, not the whole of it; they have not command, they have only their little share in the command. They are but one in the thousand; it is in the thousand that command is lodged; they must determine what is right and what is wrong; they must decide who is a patriot and who isn't. Who are the thousand--that is to say, who are "the Country"? In a monarchy, the king and his family are the country; in a republic it is the common voice of the people. Each of you, for himself, by himself and on his own responsibility, must speak. And it is a solemn and weighty responsibility, and not lightly to be flung aside at the bullying of pulpit, press, government, or the empty catch-phrases of politicians. Each must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, and which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man.[/I] [/quote] In a republic, it is the people who rule - not the politicians, the pundits, or the press, or the corporations. An angry population should make the government tremble in fear. The people of the USA need to make some noise, torch some government property, and remind them who they're working for. Because assholes like Hillary and Trump are banking on the fact that they won't. The people pulling the strings need to be given a bit of a scare, reminded that if they take too many liberties and keep screwing the people, one day said people will decide they've had enough, and heads are going to roll. Hell, the population of India has rioted against its democratic government many times to keep them in line - why can't Americans, who claim to so value their freedom? Such reminders, after all, as unpleasant and violent and disruptive as they are to everyday life, are what drive a democracy forward - and pull it back from the brink of total corruption.
[QUOTE=Cructo;50782161]Huh. The Facepunch Clinton advertiser admitting it was rigged? Weird.[/QUOTE] I have more faith in Americans to believe 13% of Democratic voters were 'tricked' in voting against their interests. I'm mostly just puzzled by the amount of absurd fear mongering people use on FP, seems like it's a fair few too many peoples first elections. Though the 25 pence per post pays for Papa's pizzas.
[QUOTE=smurfy;50779770]Clinton is officially the Democratic nominee [media]https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/758069086895177728[/media][/QUOTE] that's just plain false and a lie, there have loads of female candidates for major parties... Gracie Allen for example, Harvard even endorsed her and if it wasn't for Franklin D. Roosevelt she would have been in charge of invading the nazi's.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50782214]that's just plain false and a lie, there have loads of female candidates for major parties... Gracie Allen for example, Harvard even endorsed her and if it wasn't for Franklin D. Roosevelt she would have been in charge of invading the nazi's.[/QUOTE] Candidates, yes. But none of them were ever [i]nominated[/i] to be the Presidential nominee of a major party. Until Hillary.
[QUOTE=Cructo;50781496][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2WILfDKkjg[/url] Do you mean the original pasta? Don't have that one sorry[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Cructo;50781642]Nuggets pasta[/QUOTE]I thought it was some vague chicken tendies reference, this makes it more hilarious.
[url]http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/terry-mcauliffe-hillary-clinton-tpp-trade-226253[/url] [QUOTE]-- Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, longtime best friend to the Clintons, said Tuesday that he believes Hillary Clinton will support the TPP trade deal if elected president, with some tweaks.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/chamber-of-commerce-lobby_b_9104096.html[/url] [QUOTE]In an interview from Davos with Bloomberg TV on January 20, Chamber of Commerce President Tom Donohue, a top lobbyist for the pro-corporate-power Trans-Pacific Partnership [TPP] agreement, assured viewers that if Hillary Clinton wins the Presidential election, Clinton will support the TPP, even though she opposes it now.[/QUOTE] ya guys built your grave ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[QUOTE=Wii60;50782656][url]http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/terry-mcauliffe-hillary-clinton-tpp-trade-226253[/url] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/chamber-of-commerce-lobby_b_9104096.html[/url] ya guys built your grave ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[/QUOTE] it literally says on your first link that clinton supports the tpp after she renegotiates it lol tpp as a principle is pro-free trade and good for our country, provided that we build up our education institution & transition faster into a service economy. some language has to be changed and that was already been hotly discussed in the democratic convention
[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;50781230]Oh that's fair, don't show Tesla or Gates, but show off Jobs and Edison. Way to honor the sleazy salesman more than the actual pioneer.[/QUOTE] In the case of Edison, way to show off a dude who literally stole credit for inventions from others. And Jobs was a salesman, not an inventor, and was all about running the show exactly the way he wanted it and ruling by a combination of financial motivation and fear. It's [I]perfectly fitting[/I] for the DNC this year, really.
[QUOTE=srobins;50781472]I think this is a reference to a real story from last night about a Bernie supporter assaulting his mother for getting the wrong chicken nuggets and then getting arrested. That actually happened.[/QUOTE] I don't suppose you read this story on a news site with olive -colored text bulleted by angle brackets?
[QUOTE=Mingebox;50784230]I don't suppose you read this story on a news site with olive -colored text bulleted by angle brackets?[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;A2WILfDKkjg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2WILfDKkjg[/video] I think he's overplaying it but this is what he is referring to
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50784243][video=youtube;A2WILfDKkjg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2WILfDKkjg[/video] I think he's overplaying it but this is what he is referring to[/QUOTE] The guy speaking in the video is quoting a 4chan copypasta though. Which is what Mingebox was getting at. It's been a joke for a few months now, and wasn't actually a real story.
Bumping as a reminder the DNC is expected to gavel in 40minutes from now. If anyone has replays of day 1 or 2 post them here so O can add to the op
Is the twitch stream behind CNN? The thread was dead while it was playing for me and it lit up hours later, with people commenting as if the things that had already happened were current events. Strange.
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