George Galloway storms out of Oxford debate after discovering his opponent is Israeli
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[QUOTE=Glorbo;39670635]What the hell does that have to do with anything[/QUOTE]
he wants no affiliation with anyone or anything from israel
he does not recognize israel as a country
If his opponent said something like "yeah, so the IDF kills Palestinian children, so what", then it's understandable, I would have walked out too. But he didn't. All he said was "I'm from this particular place on the planet". And is somehow enough reason for Galloway to leave.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;39671010]If his opponent said something like "yeah, so the IDF kills Palestinian children, so what", then it's understandable, I would have walked out too. But he didn't. All he said was "I'm from this particular place on the planet". And is somehow enough reason for Galloway to leave.[/QUOTE]
Pretty stupid move on his part. He should have waited for him to say something stupid, then make a amazingly hilarious walkout without uttering a word. He ruined his image.
[QUOTE]According to Cherwell, Mr Galloway later released a statement clarifying: "I refused this evening to debate with an Israeli, a supporter of the Apartheid state of Israel.
"The reason is simple; no recognition, no normalisation. Just Boycott, divestment and sanctions, until the Apartheid state is defeated."[/QUOTE]
It's right there in the article..
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;39671045]It's right there in the article..[/QUOTE]
Yeah, let's not recognize the guy i'm trying to prove wrong. I'm sure that would make my point valid.
[quote]"The reason is simple; no recognition, no normalisation. Just Boycott, divestment and sanctions, until the Apartheid state is defeated."[/quote]
Because it works so well with Iranians, might as well do it with Israelis right?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;39670562]That is now how to properly debate.[/QUOTE]
Really, "properly debate" - please learn how to construct a proper sentence.
For those unfamiliar with Mr. Galloway:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1NIuCt72bU[/media]
[QUOTE=Hellduck;39671086]For those unfamiliar with Mr. Galloway:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1NIuCt72bU[/media][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;39670790]meow
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That's why this was getting funny's
What does Galloway mean by "until the Apartheid state is defeated"? Anyway it's a stupid excuse and it isn't helping his image or even an atitutde that will make any progress occur with Palestine and Israel. He's a strange man.
Just to remind you all of the letter he sent to the mosques in the constituency he was elected in (during the election period).
[url]http://hurryupharry.org/2012/03/29/what-george-galloway-should-tell-every-muslim-in-bradford-west-today/[/url]
(apologies for the random source, but it has the whole letter scanned in it)
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;39670552]I like him some of the time but this time he's a cunt.[/QUOTE]
What is this 'some of the time' of which you speak of?
I know his constituents are annoyed at him. He's hardly ever in Parliament.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;39670597]Does by not recognizing Israel mean he doesn't recognize that there was a student existing there to debate?
If anything, the fact that there was an Israeli there would have given him the opportunity to debate better and more directly on the issue.[/QUOTE]
I think it means that he doesn't recognize Israel as a state AKA he thinks it should be Palestina instead.
He's a bit of a twat.
What a dick. There is literally no excuse in the world for doing that.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;39671059]Yeah, let's not recognize the guy i'm trying to prove wrong. I'm sure that would make my point valid.
Because it works so well with Iranians, might as well do it with Israelis right?[/QUOTE]
oh shit its the jidf
One of the few respectable politicians out there. Glad that he didn't relegate himself by debating with that israeli apologist.
I'm a huge Anti-Zionist and I still recognize Israel. I just think they should be hands off to places like East of Jerusalem, the occupied Syrian zones, and the West Bank.
The only country that recognizes their claim to the occupied areas is Costa Rica.
I don't really consider myself to recognise any state or border as legitimate but I wouldn't let that stop me from talking to or debating someone who happened to be from Israel.
This guy sure likes to draw attention to himself, I guess it keeps his name in the public eye.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;39670635]What the hell does that have to do with anything[/QUOTE]
Seeing as israel refuses to deliberate with Palestine because it does regard Palestine, quite a bit.
Can't say I agree with his reaction, however the people insulting Galloway for this no nothing about him.
He can't recognize Israel? Sounds like occipital lobe damage.
He's calling the racist card for nationality?
This kills the debate
[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;39670661]Irony at it's best.[/QUOTE]
The entire party is ironic if you read their policy.
[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;39670665]The issue is that he refuses to debate something that isn't (to him) even remotely real.
It would be like sitting down a Priest and telling him to debate god with a Militant Atheist who categorically rejects anything to do with god. There's no discussion here. It's compounded by the fact that even deigning to acknowledge that there's a discussion deigns to acknowledge that there is something to discuss.
He recognized this not only as an argument that was a waste of time, but was potentially hazardous to more important claims or beliefs he held.[/QUOTE]
no its not really like that at all actually
its like someone saying "israel shouldn't be recognized internationally as a sovereign state" and then refusing to debate an israeli because they hate israel so much. i'm not a fan of israel either but defending this guy who was being a flat out cunt and refusing to participate solely because he hates israel and israelis so much is just ridiculous. there was no ulterior motive or hidden meaning to his decision to leave, he left because he didnt want to debate an israeli, that's it.
I'd walk out of a debate if I realised I was George Galloway too!
George Galloway is a complete fucking idiot.
I saw him reduce a two-hour debate about theism with Christopher Hitchens into an insult-slinging contest in about 15 minutes, despite Hitchens' efforts to the contrary. He's a spineless, brainless, delusional moron and the reason his name holds such a status eludes me.
[QUOTE=Strike 86;39676775]George Galloway is a complete fucking idiot.
I saw him reduce a two-hour debate about theism with Christopher Hitchens into an insult-slinging contest in about 15 minutes, despite Hitchens' efforts to the contrary. He's a spineless, brainless, delusional moron and the reason his name holds such a status eludes me.[/QUOTE]
I know your Atheist dick grinding of Hitchens will be upset with this, but Hitchens does the exact same thing
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;39677561]I know your Atheist dick grinding of Hitchens will be upset with this, but Hitchens does the exact same thing[/QUOTE]
No.. he doesn't. I have seen this interview and I have to agree with Strike 86. Galloway is a grovelling, unforgivable cretin pandering on the fears of others to gain votes.
Hitchens couldn't have given a toss what anyone else thought and stood on principle.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;39670635]What the hell does that have to do with anything[/QUOTE]
He's a very vocal opponent of western intervention in the middle east and a very vocal supporter of the Palestinians - doing something like this gets him free publicity to talk about these issues.
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Annoying thing is I agree with a lot of what Galloway says but the guy's just a bit mental and would do anything for publicity
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[QUOTE=Jonzky;39671640]Just to remind you all of the letter he sent to the mosques in the constituency he was elected in (during the election period).
[url]http://hurryupharry.org/2012/03/29/what-george-galloway-should-tell-every-muslim-in-bradford-west-today/[/url]
(apologies for the random source, but it has the whole letter scanned in it)[/QUOTE]
that's not a real source, find a better one
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