[QUOTE=David29;46900577]The only situation this may be the case is if they need to in order to fulfil their obligation to provide national security - and they can't be criticised for that.[/QUOTE]
Of course they can, if it impinges on liberty or privacy.
I'll probably get a lot of boxes for this, but Bush sort of pulled the 'we need to increase security' after 9/11 happened, hence why the NSA is here and all of the controversies around it. Not to mention, that gave the government tremendous amounts of power.
edit: accidentally hit post, but I don't see why governments wouldn't be able to do such a thing. Back on topic, I'm hoping this 'massacre' never happens, have a lot of family in the UK.
[QUOTE=Fort83;46890973]Kill themselves without harming innocents.[/QUOTE]
Well that depends on timing.
[editline]11th January 2015[/editline]
On another note, if I ever find a terrorist, I am going to sprinkle the shit out of him with bacon bits. If I'm within driving distance of a terrorist event (Islam-related), I am going to somehow get a piece of pork on their corpse. They're motivated by a promise of paradise and I encourage people to take that away.
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;46903653]Well that depends on timing.
[editline]11th January 2015[/editline]
On another note, if I ever find a terrorist, I am going to sprinkle the shit out of him with bacon bits. If I'm within driving distance of a terrorist event (Islam-related), I am going to somehow get a piece of pork on their corpse. They're motivated by a promise of paradise and I encourage people to take that away.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't count if they don't come into contact with pork willingly.
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;46903653]Well that depends on timing.
[editline]11th January 2015[/editline]
On another note, if I ever find a terrorist, I am going to sprinkle the shit out of him with bacon bits. If I'm within driving distance of a terrorist event (Islam-related), I am going to somehow get a piece of pork on their corpse. They're motivated by a promise of paradise and I encourage people to take that away.[/QUOTE]
You have sprinkle-able bacon?
Seriously?
It's a thing people do to their food on purpose?
And you worry about terrorists?
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;46903653]Well that depends on timing.
[editline]11th January 2015[/editline]
On another note, if I ever find a terrorist, I am going to sprinkle the shit out of him with bacon bits. If I'm within driving distance of a terrorist event (Islam-related), I am going to somehow get a piece of pork on their corpse. They're motivated by a promise of paradise and I encourage people to take that away.[/QUOTE]
No you're not
[QUOTE=lazyguy;46902902]Of course they can, if it impinges on liberty or privacy.[/QUOTE]
That's a rather sweeping statement - and even if it was true, I think it would be unfair to expect the government to do their job with their hands tied behind their back, and then criticise them when they fail. Of course, there will be a line which we should not cross - but the UK is hardly Nazi Germany at the moment.
What's with extremist Muslims and blowing up their own countries?
[QUOTE=David29;46900577]The only situation this may be the case is if they need to in order to fulfil their obligation to provide national security - and they can't be criticised for that.[/QUOTE]
So what you'd just support any of their choices, literally because of fear?
Holy shit, that statement echoes throughout history and it doesn't lead to good places.
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That is the essence of Scotland :v:
[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;46903902]So what you'd just support any of their choices, literally because of fear?
Holy shit, that statement echoes throughout history and it doesn't lead to good places.[/QUOTE]
You might want to read the post I made after that, where I clearly stated: "Of course, there will be a line which we should not cross".
Don't automatically assume that just because I support the notion that the Government should be given the [b]appropriate[/b] tools to do its job that I want to see country as a police state just for the sake of security.
We should try to appease the muslims more than we already are and accept islam as the state religion in the UK and start paying the jizya then they won't attack us anymore. Our lives are worth more than our freedoms.
[QUOTE=Arrows;46904968]We should try to appease the muslims more than we already are and accept islam as the state religion in the UK and start paying the jizya then they won't attack us anymore. Our lives are worth more than our freedoms.[/QUOTE]
Seriously?
[QUOTE=Arrows;46904968]We should try to appease the muslims more than we already are and accept islam as the state religion in the UK and start paying the jizya then they won't attack us anymore. Our lives are worth more than our freedoms.[/QUOTE]
Well that's just a stupid idea. I guess separation of church and state is out the door in your mind.
[QUOTE=David29;46905091]Seriously?[/QUOTE]
Obviously sarcasm but it potentially is a very real scenario for the future.
[QUOTE=Arrows;46905226]Obviously sarcasm but it potentially is a very real scenario for the future.[/QUOTE]
No it's not realistic. You sound like Rush Limbaugh.
Edit: Actually I'll be a little Politically correct and just say all of you here defending this Islam should just convert so at least you'd have decency to make it crystal clear on who you support.
Now, please permaban me. Really.
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[QUOTE=antimonycat;46910942]Edit: Actually I'll be a little Politically correct and just say all of you here defending this Islam should just convert so at least you'd have decency to make it crystal clear on who you support.
Now, please permaban me. Really.
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People don't need to be part of something to defend it, I don't need to be gay to defend gay people's rights.
Bye.
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