• Bin Laden's body buried at sea.
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[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29574385]Fucking again, WE IGNORED THAT FOR OTHER BODIES, WHAT MAKES THIS ONE SO SPECIAL? BURYING HIM AT SEA ISN'T TRADITIONAL FOR MUSLIMS AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH INSULTING TO HIM, THERE'S NO NEED TO FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE TO THE WORD.[/QUOTE] BECAUSE THE OTHER BODIES WEREN'T FIGUREHEADS FOR A DELICATE SITUATION, WHEN UDAY AND QUSAY WERE KILLED THE IRAQ WAR WAS A RESOUNDING VICTORY AND TO COMPARE THE TWO IS CLEARLY FLAWED
[QUOTE=Regulas021;29574477]BECAUSE THE OTHER BODIES WEREN'T FIGUREHEADS FOR A DELICATE SITUATION, WHEN UDAY AND QUSAY WERE KILLED THE IRAQ WAR WAS A RESOUNDING VICTORY AND TO COMPARE THE TWO IS CLEARLY FLAWED[/QUOTE] We've been looking for this man for 10 years+ and the government dumped the body within 24 hours before ANYBODY could get a look at it that they didn't pre-approve. On top of the shitty "people will defame the body" excuse, as if they could just waltz into a government facility and fuck with a corpse. You REALLY see NOTHING suspicious here?
[QUOTE=Regulas021;29574477]BECAUSE THE OTHER BODIES WEREN'T FIGUREHEADS FOR A DELICATE SITUATION, WHEN UDAY AND QUSAY WERE KILLED THE IRAQ WAR WAS A RESOUNDING VICTORY AND TO COMPARE THE TWO IS CLEARLY FLAWED[/QUOTE] I don't see why you're rating me dumb just because I find something a little off about tossing the body of a 10 year manhunt target overboard to appease Islamic traditions when we've ignored the bodies of other Islamic figures. You think Uday and Qusay weren't important figureheads as well? They wouldn't have been on the hitlist if they weren't important.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;29574578]I don't see why you're rating me dumb just because I find something a little off about tossing the body of a 10 year manhunt target overboard to appease Islamic traditions when we've ignored the bodies of other Islamic figures. You think Uday and Qusay weren't important figureheads as well? They wouldn't have been on the hitlist if they weren't important.[/QUOTE] I didn't mean to rate that one dumb, my mistake [QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29574495]We've been looking for this man for 10 years+ and the government dumped the body within 24 hours before ANYBODY could get a look at it that they didn't pre-approve. On top of the shitty "people will defame the body" excuse, as if they could just waltz into a government facility and fuck with a corpse. You REALLY see NOTHING suspicious here?[/QUOTE] I don't really find it suspicious, mostly because the information I've been receiving about this for the last 24 hours has been widely contradictory. I'll decide if one is more likely than the other when we get real information. Until then, I find it hard to believe the US government would set themselves up for that much of an embarrassment if he were to be found alive at some point.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;29574380]HURR YES DA GUBMENT SAID ITS HIS BODY SO WE CAN CLEARLY JUST THROW THE BODY INTO THE OCEAN AND NOT LET ANY OUTSIDE SOURCES CONFIRM ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DEATHS OF THE DECADE DURRR[/QUOTE] "I will say some bullshit sarcastically in all caps, use lots of HURRR and DURRR and misspell everything to make this guy look like an idiot and make everybody think I'm right." He's dead, nobody needs any more conspiracy theories.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;29574631]"I will say some bullshit sarcastically in all caps, use lots of HURRR and DURRR and misspell everything to make this guy look like an idiot and make everybody think I'm right." He's dead, nobody needs any more conspiracy theories.[/QUOTE] Because the government's NEVER lied to us before, no sir. Calling somebody out on using a bad method of relaying their thoughts doesn't dismiss any point they have.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;29574631]"I will say some bullshit sarcastically in all caps, use lots of HURRR and DURRR and misspell everything to make this guy look like an idiot and make everybody think I'm right." He's dead, nobody needs any more conspiracy theories.[/QUOTE] "I will accept an extraordinary claim as fact without extraordinary evidence, and call everyone who asks for evidence a conspiracy nut." If you want to go ahead and accept this as being fact that's fine by me, I'm sure it's 99.9% positive that he is in fact dead, but being offended by people wanting a little bit more evidence than "GOOD JOB BOYS, TAGGED AND BAGGED" is the reason whenever there is a conspiracy or scandal, it's only noticed in hindsight. [QUOTE=Regulas021;29574605]I didn't mean to rate that one dumb, my mistake.[/QUOTE] lol ecks dee ecks dee rated autistic instead And for a second there I thought you were actually being nice.
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29574642]Because the government's NEVER lied to us before, no sir.[/QUOTE] Because the government's NEVER told the truth to us before, no sir. This is not a good argument.
[QUOTE=Billiam;29574319]Anyone with that beard deserves Viking status.[/QUOTE] After what he's done, I don't think so. He's not an honorable warrior and would be rejected from Valhalla.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;29574652]"I will accept an extraordinary claim as fact without extraordinary evidence, and call everyone who asks for evidence a conspiracy nut."[/QUOTE] I knew Trump had an insane look to him, this explains everything!
Not to mention the fact that an independent person twittered seeing non-Pakistani helicopters near the compound, and hearing the explosion.
There probably are tons of photos, but the US isn't releasing them to the press because they're probably pretty gruesome. I mean, he was shot in the head. I'm pretty sure islamic law states that bodies have to be buried 24 hours after their deaths, but then again I could be wrong. The US seems to be acting pretty reasonably to me.
[QUOTE=Regulas021;29574659]Because the government's NEVER told the truth to us before, no sir. This is not a good argument.[/QUOTE] Yes it is, a government only has to lie once to make questioning them reasonable, and they've lied a hell of a lot more than one time.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;29574652]"I will accept an extraordinary claim as fact without extraordinary evidence, and call everyone who asks for evidence a conspiracy nut."[/QUOTE] There was a DNA test. I believe DNA tests, and it's enough of an evidence for me. And I never called you or anyone else a conspiracy nut.
[QUOTE=Oneperson;29574691]There probably are tons of photos, but the US isn't releasing them to the press because they're probably pretty gruesome. I mean, he was shot in the head. I'm pretty sure islamic law states that bodies have to be buried 24 hours after their deaths, but then again I could be wrong. The US seems to be acting pretty reasonably to me.[/QUOTE] This isn't about the pictures, this is about people coming and inspecting the body in person to get a second opinion from somebody that isn't the government. And now this is an impossibility because the government dumped it. [editline]2nd May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Laserbeams;29574720]There was a DNA test. I believe DNA tests, and it's enough of an evidence for me. And I never called you or anyone else a conspiracy nut.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Laserbeams;29574631] He's dead, nobody needs any more conspiracy theories.[/QUOTE] How does one support a conspiracy theory without being a conspiracy nut exactly?
[QUOTE=SilverHammer;29574288]How do you torture a dead person?[/QUOTE] Rebecca Black - Friday on loop on a speaker in the coffin. I wouldn't wish it on an enemy.
[QUOTE=Chickens!;29574741]Rebecca Black - Friday on loop on a speaker in the coffin. I wouldn't wish it on an enemy.[/QUOTE] Should follow him down to hell to get raped by pigs :v:
[QUOTE=Regulas021;29574659]Because the government's NEVER told the truth to us before, no sir. This is not a good argument.[/QUOTE] Sorry, it doesn't go both ways. You are implying that because the government said they have evidence, it's true, because the government wouldn't lie. Bigby posed a good point, saying that the government lies, A LOT, and therefore taking everything the government says as 100% fact isn't a good idea. You can't turn it around and say that because they've told the truth in the past, they're ALWAYS telling the truth, mainly because that implies that Bigby said that because they've LIED in the past, they're ALWAYS lying. Sorry to be so long winded, but you're wrong.
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29574721]How does one support a conspiracy theory without being a conspiracy nut exactly?[/QUOTE] By being a conspiracy theorist. "Nut" sounds like an offensive term, and I don't want to offend anyone because offending the guy you're arguing with is not the correct way of winning an argument.
[QUOTE=Falchion;29574400]The crazy hicks probably just lobbed it off their carrier.[/QUOTE] yup everyone in the military is a crazy hick that has no idea what they're doing. Not a fuckin clue. Hell they probably shaved his beard, dressed him in country clothes and sat around a bonfire and sang country songs before hitting each other with wooden clubs.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;29574771]By being a conspiracy theorist. "Nut" sounds like an offensive term, and I don't want to offend anyone because offending the guy you're arguing with is not the correct way of winning an argument.[/QUOTE] Fair enough, the other points still stand though.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;29574720]There was a DNA test. I believe DNA tests, and it's enough of an evidence for me. And I never called you or anyone else a conspiracy nut.[/QUOTE] Taking a DNA test perpetrated by the same people who are trying to convince you of something is like me saying "Yeah, I've got a DNA test that proves I'm Emma Watson's grandfather, why don't you believe me?"
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;29574786]yup everyone in the military is a crazy hick that has no idea what they're doing. Not a fuckin clue. Hell they probably shaved his beard, dressed him in country clothes and sat around a bonfire and sang country songs before hitting each other with wooden clubs.[/QUOTE] I absolutely [i]love[/i] this post.
No country wanted to take responsibility for his body, so they dumped him into international waters. I wish people would stop trying to make everything sound like a conspiracy because they don't understand how things work.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;29574805]Taking a DNA test perpetrated by the same people who are trying to convince you of something is like me saying "Yeah, I've got a DNA test that proves I'm Emma Watson's grandfather, why don't you believe me?"[/QUOTE] Well they can still give the DNA to external sources, and there are means of proving that it's in fact Bin Laden's. And there's no way they could have gotten it without killing him.
[QUOTE=CharadesV2;29574830]No country wanted to take responsibility for his body, so they dumped him into international waters. I wish people would stop trying to make everything sound like a conspiracy because they don't understand how things work.[/QUOTE] Its just fishy how quickly this was done. But this was done in months of planning so I bet they had everything ready from the get go.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;29574842]Well they can still give the DNA to external sources, and there are means of proving that it's in fact Bin Laden's. And there's no way they could have gotten it without killing him.[/QUOTE] Then they should send the DNA to an external source and let that external source provide the evidence, thats all I'm asking.
I think they should have buried him under Freedom Tower.
It should also be noted that it was Pakistan who ordered this.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;29574871]Then they should send the DNA to an external source and let that external source provide the evidence, thats all I'm asking.[/QUOTE] They probably will. If they won't then something is in fact really fishy about this.
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