[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29578009]Showing proof of Obama's birth certificate provoked the tea baggers (well, Trump) to demand his school records. I guess that was a bad move too, huh?[/QUOTE]
that's not even close
a burial at sea means they wouldn't have a piece of the body to fight for
Putting his body in the sea was the only possibility. No country would take him, and a land grave would just cause so many problems. I still think we should've cremated him, and buried his ashes where everyone could step all over them.
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;29578064]that's not even close
a burial at sea means they wouldn't have a piece of the body to fight for[/QUOTE]
And waiting to dump the body so that it could have been examined by somebody that isn't involved with the Military\Government would have avoided this entirely.
[media]http://www.serpholicmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Osama-Bin-Laden-Dead-Photos1.jpg[/media]
NSFW.
Can anyone confirm this picture?
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29578085]And waiting to dump the body so that it could have been examined would have avoided this entirely.[/QUOTE]
it was already examined, photos already taken
you can change everything about you changed except your dna, which is how we did it, we took some of his dna and linked it to him
theres nothing else significant about his body other than he is a dead, brown colored man with a beard
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;29578128]it was already examined, photos already taken
you can change everything about you changed except your dna, which is how we did it, we took some of his dna and linked it to him[/QUOTE]
It was confirmed by the government. The government then dumped it before ANYBODY ELSE can get a look at it so that we have to blindly listen to them.
For all we know he's sitting with all those Iraqi WMDs
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29578161]It was confirmed by the government. The government then dumped it before ANYBODY ELSE can get a look at it so that we have to blindly listen to them.
For all we know he's sitting with all those Iraqi WMDs[/QUOTE]
yeah and all of those non islamic muslims :rolleye:
[QUOTE=leet;29578117][media]http://www.serpholicmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Osama-Bin-Laden-Dead-Photos1.jpg[/media]
NSFW.
Can anyone confirm this picture?[/QUOTE]
The first picture is a dead person, the second is Bin Laden, the third is a dead person with Bin Laden's features photoshopped onto him.
It's fake man.
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;29578181]yeah and all of those non islamic muslims :rolleye:[/QUOTE]
[quote]By calling themselves non-practicing Muslims, these people still consider themselves to be Muslim, or they would introduce themselves to you as ex-Muslims or they would say that they used to be Muslim or that they were once Muslim.
They have not taken the actual step of rejecting Islam and renouncing it. Such former Muslims are known as "apostates," since they have formally rejected Islam.
The non-practicing group is a different matter.
The reasons why they no longer pray may be very complicated. It could just be laziness. It could be the bad influence of the friends they hang around with.
It could be the bad example of other Muslims, who have put them off the whole idea of Islam, even they do not formally reject it. It could be the very subtle influence of television and the media, which make other lifestyles seem more attractive and more "modern" than the life of a Muslim.
[/quote]
It's called being non-practicing.
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29578217]It's called being non-practicing.[/QUOTE]
did you even read it lol
[quote]
By calling themselves non-practicing Muslims, these people still consider themselves to be Muslim, or they would introduce themselves to you as ex-Muslimsb or they would say that they used to be Muslim or that they were once Muslim.
[b]They have not taken the actual step of rejecting Islam and renouncing it[/b]. Such [b]former Muslims [/b]are known as "apostates," since they have [b]formally rejected Islam[/b].
The non-practicing group is a different matter.
The reasons why they no longer pray may be very complicated. It could just be laziness. It could be the bad influence of the friends they hang around with.
It could be the bad example of other Muslims, who have put them off the whole idea of Islam, even they do not formally reject it. It could be the very subtle influence of television and the media, which make other lifestyles seem more attractive and more "modern" than the life of a Muslim.[/quote]
that's like saying christians don't believe in christianity
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;29578428]did you even read it lol
that's like saying christians don't believe in christianity[/QUOTE]
No, it's like saying they don't practice it but haven't formally changed their faith.
And did you read THE NEXT FUCKING 4 LINES
[quote]The non-practicing group is a different matter.
The reasons why [b]they no longer pray[/b] may be very complicated. It could just be laziness. It could be the bad influence of the friends they hang around with.
[b]It could be the bad example of other Muslims, who have put them off the whole idea of Islam, even they do not formally reject it. It could be the very subtle influence of television and the media, which make other lifestyles seem more attractive and more "modern" than the life of a Muslim.[/b][/quote]
HOLY FUCKING SHIT, YOU CAN BE A MUSLIM WITHOUT PRACTICING? JESUS THIS IS LIKE THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD WITH JESUS FACES ON IT!
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29578450]No, it's like saying they don't practice it but haven't formally changed their faith.
And did you read THE NEXT FUCKING LINES
HOLY FUCKING SHIT, YOU CAN BE A MUSLIM WITHOUT PRACTICING? JESUS THIS IS LIKE THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD WITH JESUS FACES ON IT![/QUOTE]
muslims is the word for an islamist
[quote]of or pertaining to [URL="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/the"]the[/URL] religion, law, or [URL="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/civilization"]civilization[/URL] of Islam. [/quote]
you are sounding pretty stupid right now
It's pertaining to the religion. You can be part of a religion without actually practicing it. That's how I participate in jewish holidays because my family is full of practicing jews, but I still eat bacon and other non-kosher things because I'm a non-practicing jew who hasn't formally changed my religion.
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29578715]It's pertaining to the religion. You can be part of a religion without actually practicing it. That's how I participate in jewish holidays because my family is full of practicing jews, but I still eat bacon and other non-kosher things because I'm a non-practicing jew who hasn't formally changed my religion.[/QUOTE]
yeah but you're still a jew
the same way a muslim is still a muslim even if they don't practice
If I sound stupid, you sound 12.
You clearly don't know jack shit about
A) The english language or you'd know what the word non-practicing means
or
B) Religion, you or'd know what being a non-practicing *insert religion here* means
[editline]2nd May 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;29578750]yeah but you're still a jew
the same way a muslim is still a muslim even if they don't practice[/QUOTE]
You're arguing against the original point you were sided with genius. You're now supporting my claim by saying that it's possible for him to still be of the muslim faith but have absolutely no link to Islam
I'm arguing that it's a common practice among ISLAMISTS. aka PRACTICING MUSLIMS. Not among other Muslims. aka NON-PRACTICING MUSLIMS.
And either way it doesn't mean jack shit because there's no reason to dispose of the body so quickly unless they wanted to hide something.
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29578756]If I sound stupid, you sound 12.
You clearly don't know jack shit about
A) The english language or you'd know what the word non-practicing means
or
B) Religion, you or'd know what being a non-practicing *insert religion here* means
[editline]2nd May 2011[/editline]
You're arguing against the original point you were sided with genius. You're now supporting my claim by saying that it's possible for him to still be of the muslim faith but have absolutely no link to Islam
I'm arguing that it's a common practice among ISLAMISTS. aka PRACTICING MUSLIMS. Not among other Muslims. aka NON-PRACTICING MUSLIMS.
[/QUOTE]
you're pretty stupid
you're like those people who think buddha is worshiped as a god
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;29578890]you're pretty stupid
you're like those people who think buddha is worshiped as a god[/QUOTE]
Wanna back that up? I really don't see how you can bring my views of Buddha into this when all I've talked about is the ability to not practice a religion while still being associated with it.
It was more dumped onto sea not really buried, but as someone said earlier it's so his body would not be used as a symbol of martyrdom, we talked about this in Religion class today.
The term is a burial though.
[QUOTE=leet;29578117][media]http://www.serpholicmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Osama-Bin-Laden-Dead-Photos1.jpg[/media]
NSFW.
Can anyone confirm this picture?[/QUOTE]
Nice shoop
Well it is a bit odd that they rushed so quickly to put the body to sea.
But it does prevent any form of martyrdom for the body, and the U.S got criticized a lot for the Hussein brothers as mentioned earlier in the thread.
Waiting for the DNA results.
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;29579248]Nice shoop[/QUOTE]
More like shit shoop.
[QUOTE=Alvaldi;29579570]Well it is a bit odd that they rushed so quickly to put the body to sea.
But it does prevent any form of martyrdom for the body, and the U.S got criticized a lot for the Hussein brothers as mentioned earlier in the thread.
Waiting for the DNA results.[/QUOTE]
They didn't get criticized, that's one of the main things that makes it odd that suddenly we need to throw the body into the fucking ocean never to be seen again
[editline]2nd May 2011[/editline]
I really hoped that people screaming that history is doomed to repeat itself if we don't learn from it would make a difference, when has something bad come from confirming that we aren't being lied to?
note: I'm not saying that we are being lied to. I'm saying that it wouldn't hurt to CONFIRM it. However, if we ARE being lied to, pretty bad shit can definitely come from everybody in the world believing Osama to be dead under false pretense.
I voted for "turn his corpse into a marionette and use him to scare children", but the military didn't agree.
Stupid military, no imagination.
The next hot location for scuba diving Al-Qaeda members!
[QUOTE=GunFox;29579888]I voted for "turn his corpse into a marionette and use him to scare children", but the military didn't agree.
Stupid military, no imagination.[/QUOTE]
Make him into a scarecrow and train dogs to attack it's crotch.
[QUOTE=GunFox;29579888]I voted for "turn his corpse into a marionette and use him to scare children", but the military didn't agree.
Stupid military, no imagination.[/QUOTE]
You've been beat to the punch.
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My friend thought they meant buried by the sea. Like, at coast. And he said that they were doing that because SEAL Team 6 specializes aquatic actions, on boats and stuff. That way if he comes back as a zombie they could take him down.
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29578988]Wanna back that up? I really don't see how you can bring my views of Buddha into this when all I've talked about is the ability to not practice a religion while still being associated with it.[/QUOTE]
talk about understanding english
you didn't even understand what i wrote
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;29580333]talk about understanding english
you didn't even understand what i wrote[/QUOTE]
Well it's a bit hard to understand something that was written by an illiterate.
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