[QUOTE=Noble;36197265]M-theory isn't just a wild hypothesis though[/QUOTE]
Neither is this.
I'm saying you can basically compare these two theories, because both are currently a series of untestable equations and hypotheses.
Words cannot explain how fucking awesome that would be if it's true.
Looks like the only way to find out is to plan an expedition into a black hole.
Thread music.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI6VPFQw6BU[/media]
Too bad it would be impossible to go through a black hole without getting stretched to the point where your entire body fits into a molecule or expands for miles.
Or other shit, black holes make weird shit happen.
[QUOTE=Zarjk;36199973]Too bad it would be impossible to go through a black hole without getting stretched to the point where your entire body fits into a molecule or expands for miles.
Or other shit, black holes make weird shit happen.[/QUOTE]
Not true, you can cross the event horizon of a supermassive black hole without being killed.
[QUOTE=mac338;36194445]It's so massive it may bend space to the extent it 'rips', put plainly. There are a few different ideas put in place regarding black holes and wormholes. The hypothetical [URL="http://www.krioma.net/articles/Bridge%20Theory/Einstein%20Rosen%20Bridge.htm"]Einstein-Rosen bridge[/URL] for instance. Of course all speculation, but nonetheless believed by a large fraction of scientists.[/QUOTE]
The Einstein-Rosen bridge was shown to be impossible given the feedback loop.
It literally collapses in on itself..
ITT people who didn't read the damn article
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[QUOTE=Novangel;36194347]A black hole is literally just a remnant of a star with a massive gravitation field, how can it house a universe?
It's not a wormhole or anything in any way so uh, how?
Studying a bit of geophysics atm.[/QUOTE]
The energy of the black hole gets converted into mass. You know that one famous formula? E = MC²? That's the one that allows you to do it.
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[QUOTE=Hiccuper;36194622]Sooo if we're inside a black hole, then does it emit hawking radiation? And if so, where does it come from?[/QUOTE]
Hawking radiation is basically a pair of one particle and a matching antiparticle spontaneously forming in a vacuum. Under normal circumstances, they'd recombine really quickly and you won't even notice they ever exister. Hawking radiation just means, that one of the particles gets sucked into the black hole, recombining with some other particle inside of it, and thus getting anihilated.
The remaining particle will remain outside the black hole, and recombine with another particle, and that way you have an energy transfer out of the black hole. (No, you can't use it to send messages, no you can't use it to move yourself out of the black hole)
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[QUOTE=Lazore;36194644]But the thing is, the gravitational pull is so strong, that things get ripped in halves then thirds and so on, waaay before it reaches the black hole itself. which makes the idea of a universe inside there meaningless.[/QUOTE]
The article indepth explains how the spin of particles like electrons, protons, neutrons (the stuff atoms are made from) creates a torsion in the fabric of space time, counteracting the extreme gravitation.
I hope this stuff out before I die.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;36196082]Pfft, I thought of this when I was high in grade 10. After watching steven Hawking's theory of creation, I whipped out Notepad and started typing furiously, as if I was possesed. In the end I give you:
Brainturd 2
QED[/QUOTE]
Your theory has 0 proof in it and is mostly wrong
[QUOTE=Novangel;36194347]A black hole is literally just a remnant of a star with a massive gravitation field, how can it house a universe?
It's not a wormhole or anything in any way so uh, how?
Studying a bit of geophysics atm.[/QUOTE]
Sadly all that is going to be a waste when and if an even wilder theory completely turns our current ones upside down.
Also some of my own comment to this:
It's just a hypothesis, although they have some quite convincing arguments to why it could be (partially) correct. They need to get some mathematical proofs out, but that will take a very long time.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;36200416]I hope this stuff out before I die.[/QUOTE]
ugha booga
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;36200058]Not true, you can cross the event horizon of a supermassive black hole without being killed.[/QUOTE]
But passing through the einstein-rosen bridge (assuming it even exists) would require you to get mighty close to the singularity.
Can't imagine that being too healthy..
I hope whatever lives on the outside of our black hole doesn't destroy it, we should trade black holes just like the boxes in that Futurama episode.
The problem with this "theory" is that it doesn't explain where new matter entering our universe would enter from. This would require either a sort of "white hole" (the theoretical opposite of a black hole) or a finite sized universe. And seeing that matter is all moving away from an apparent centre, then a finite sized universe would only work if we're in the second half of its lifecycle (ie matter has gone from the edges, to the centre and is now finally being flung towards the outside again).
The idea of white holes could possibly fit with this theory if you look at things like quasars, but seeing that there's more than one quasar in the universe, that'd suggest that there's more than one inter-universal drain pipe pumping matter and energy into our abyss.
Like all theories, there's a chance that it's the truth, but until we get some solid proof that says one thing or another it'll only be exactly that.
[QUOTE=Azur;36200534]But passing through the einstein-rosen bridge (assuming it even exists) would require you to get mighty close to the singularity.
Can't imagine that being too healthy..[/QUOTE]
Not really. Depends on the size of the black hole, also.
[QUOTE='[Green];36195267']I could see this ironically enough making sense if there actually was a ... race controlling us.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/N0H0h.jpg[/IMG]
Is it possible that at least some black holes are just boring old black holes with no wormholes or anything special about them?
[QUOTE=Nikita;36205781]Is it possible that at least some black holes are just boring old black holes with no wormholes or anything special about them?[/QUOTE]
Begone with your rationale peasant thoughts. We're talking [B]SCIENCE[/B] here!
So does that mean the black holes in our universe have other universes in them? Holy shit.
:v:
[QUOTE=Gears of duty;36194698]That'd mean there's black holes inside all black holes right?
:psyduck:[/QUOTE]
Black-Holeception?
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If the Hydron Collidor creates a black hole that swallows the Earth and possibly our Solar System, I'd die happy, knowing that we created an entire new universe unintentionally by sacrificing ourselves. It'll be the best thing we do as a race! :v:
[QUOTE=Jarate Lover;36206182]Black-Holeception?
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If the Hydron Collidor creates a black hole that swallows the Earth and possibly our Solar System, I'd die happy, knowing that we created an entire new universe unintentionally by sacrificing ourselves. It'll be the best thing we do as a race! :v:[/QUOTE]
If the LHC ever created a black hole it'd evaporate immediately.
Did anyone else think of this before this article was made? I remember having a very similar thought when I first starting majoring in physics/astronomy.
Yes, I would like a cookie.
I may be speaking out of my anus here, but I strictly remember hearing something about this, if I'm wrong correct me.
But don't black holes slowly deteriorate? And then finally vanish? So wouldn't that mean that the hypothetical black hole our universe is in will one day "disappear"?
[QUOTE=booster;36206909]
But don't black holes slowly deteriorate? And then finally vanish? So wouldn't that mean that the hypothetical black hole our universe is in will one day "disappear"?[/QUOTE]
Indeed they do, the cause of it is Hawking radiation.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation[/url]
[QUOTE=Jin;36206926]Indeed they do, the cause of it is Hawking radiation.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation[/url][/QUOTE]
So as "our" black hole ultimately starts to shrink, how will that effect the universe as we know it?
(Even thinking about this completely boggles my mind)
Wait, so if our universe is in a black hole in another universe, what created that universe? A black hole in yet [B]another[/B] universe? Universeption?
[QUOTE=Jin;36206837]Did anyone else think of this before this article was made? I remember having a very similar thought when I first starting majoring in physics/astronomy.
Yes, I would like a cookie.[/QUOTE]
Yeah the thought had occured to me and it seemed too crazy... but it kept coming up as probably the only logical explanation. That said, it only explains OUR universe... to find the parent universe(s) and what created them, we'll need to go deeper.
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