This is why rape is still horribly underreported, and it's also why there's a stigma against rape victims.
But nah all women who report their rapes are lying sluts who just regret what they did amirite??
Europe's prison system feels so foreign. Is it really wrong to think that people who murder and rape should be given harsh sentences?
Like Anders Brevik killed hundreds and only got 22 years.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;47780680]Europe's prison system feels so foreign. Is it really wrong to think that people who murder and rape should be given harsh sentences?
Like Anders Brevik killed hundreds and only got 22 years.[/QUOTE]
The justice system in Europe is focused more on prevention and rehabilitation rather than punishment. Also, Brevik will likely never be set free as his sentence can be indefinitely renewed.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;47780680]Europe's prison system feels so foreign. Is it really wrong to think that people who murder and rape should be given harsh sentences?
Like Anders Brevik killed hundreds and only got 22 years.[/QUOTE]
technically he got lifetime; every 21 years (max sentence in norway) they'll review his case and judge whether or not he's to be released or go through another sentence
seeing as what he did, he did in cold blood + there's gonna be a LOT of people who wants him dead, he's not gonna be released anytime soon...
I don't think people get how long of a time 5 years is and just throw out numbers as if it'd be compared to how much time you spend doing what on a weekend.
[editline]22nd May 2015[/editline]
30 years Jesus Christ he'd be spending like half his life in prison
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;47781423]I don't think people get how long of a time 5 years is and just throw out numbers as if it'd be compared to how much time you spend doing what on a weekend.
[editline]22nd May 2015[/editline]
30 years Jesus Christ he'd be spending like half his life in prison[/QUOTE]
Shouldn't rape people in that case.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47781446]Shouldn't rape people in that case.[/QUOTE]
This is why we have smart people in charge of the judicial system and not people who throw out arbitrary numbers until it seems big enough.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;47781493]This is why we have smart people in charge of the judicial system and not people who throw out arbitrary numbers until it seems big enough.[/QUOTE]
We do? There are people who got more for possession of weed for christ's sake.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;47778765]I'm sorry but I don't feel remorse or pity for rapists when it comes to their sentencing. 5 years is chump change for what they should be getting. It should be, at the very least, 30 years.[/QUOTE]
Why are a bunch of people dumbing this post? Do you honestly think 5 fucking years is enough for a piece of trash that raped someone?
[editline]22nd May 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;47780134]What makes him safe to release after 30 years?
Even if we go by "an eye for an eye" sort of justice, 30 years of being locked up is obviously incredibly damaging to the person. If you think that would be a just punishment you should probably see a doctor.[/QUOTE]
Aw poor guy, don't want him to get sad when he realizes he wont be getting out for a long time. It's not like he forced himself onto someone and probably fucked them up physically/mentally for god knows how long, right?
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;47781847][B]Why are a bunch of people dumbing this post? Do you honestly think 5 fucking years is enough for a piece of trash that raped someone?[/B]
[editline]22nd May 2015[/editline]
Aw poor guy, don't want him to get sad when he realizes he wont be getting out for a long time. It's not like he forced himself onto someone and probably fucked them up physically/mentally for god knows how long, right?[/QUOTE]
Probably because we don't know any details about the case and because we believe in rehabilitation rather than throwing people in dark dungeons and letting them rot
[editline]22nd May 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;47780007]To keep him away from any more innocents he might hurt.[/QUOTE]
You can't stand for a justice system that wants to rehabilitate yet still condemn people as permanent dangers. If the court believed that five years is enough to make this person realize his mistakes and never hurt another person again then that is why he got five years.
Personally I think five years sounds way too little, but as I said, we don't know any details of the case, and five years is still a lot of time to be stuck in a cell and it's plenty of time to reflect on your actions.
[QUOTE=The golden;47780635]Regardless of your stance on his opinion, comparing a 30 year sentence to a state execution is just absurd.[/QUOTE]
Why? What's the reason? Spending 30 years in prison is basically ruining his life completely.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;47782292]Why? What's the reason? Spending 30 years in prison is basically ruining his life completely.[/QUOTE]
Not really has he already ruined someone else's life. IMO 30 Years or more should be given
[QUOTE=jiggu;47781981]Probably because we don't know any details about the case and because we believe in rehabilitation rather than throwing people in dark dungeons and letting them rot
[editline]22nd May 2015[/editline]
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So, he gets rehabilitation and his victim gets what exactly? Keep in mind the 20k is for the police fucking up the procedure, which is entirely seperate from the crime itself.
For the 5 year vs life argument : The best idea is surely a sentence which is reviewed every 5 or so years. Excellent behaviour, genuinely remorseful and clean psych check? Perhaps they get an early release. Bad behaviour, not remorseful, clearly still violent? Maybe they should stay another 5 years and see how they are then.
I personally doubt many rapists can indeed be rehabilitated, but I suppose its worth checking before sending them back out into the world or keeping them locked up indefinitely.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;47780143]I would rather a rapist's life be ruined over an innocent victims.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather neither are lives ruined, honestly.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;47794922]So, he gets rehabilitation and his victim gets what exactly? Keep in mind the 20k is for the police fucking up the procedure, which is entirely seperate from the crime itself.[/QUOTE]
If the victim really isn't getting rehab for this, then that is pretty sucky and she should get the help she needs. There doesn't seem to be a good reason only one or the other should be getting the rehab, though.
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