'Adult Baby' Stanley Thornton threatens suicide if Social Security payments are revoked - Polidicks

This is disgusting I fail to see how he deserves the social security payments

The government should just revoke them regardless, if he kills himself it's his own fault.

[QUOTE=Novistador;29940598]He's a perverted weirdo who is attempting to avoid responsibility (and by extension reality) by retreating into fantasy where he has an excuse for his desire to stick his head up his ass and have other people take care of him. [/QUOTE] First off, he was found to be legitametly psychologically traumatised. Right off the bat, you're saying someone who was traumatised should 'man the fuck up' or whatever. I'd like you to say that to a woman who was raped and now is a recluse or an Androphobic. Yes, it's illogical, but the person needs help, not you being a total heartless prick, which mind you is something you're good at. Second of all, this disability does NOT stem to his 'adult baby' lifestyle. He's not looking for disability because of it. He's looking to for disability because he is traumatised. He's mentally unstable, therefore disabled. and last, you didn't even decide to research this. This isn't a fetish. If you watched the episode, which was posted in this thread, you'd see there is zero sexual gratification. This isn't sexual. Infantilism isn't always about sex, it's a lot of times about wanting to be a baby again. It's a simple concept, albeit creepy. [quote]Thats probably about one of the most immoral and disgusting ways I've ever heard of someone acting and people who are defending him need to pull their own heads out of their asses and figure out how to differentiate from this pathetic infantile lard bag and people with real mental illnesses, and legitimate sexual orientations( This includes gay, straight, bi, trans, whatever, don't try and paint me as a conservative).[/quote]It's immoral to say a person needs help? Different people have different ways of dealing with trauma. Some are more sensitive then others. This guy is clearly NOT stable. Getting him help is more important then the money.

Found to be "legitimately traumatized" by who? What doctor? When? Have they been doing checkups? Let's face it, many of us here on Facepunch have had things just as bad as this guy, and are able to lead productive lives. Many people have life much, much worse than this guy and are able to at least pay their basic needs and not suck on the government tit forever and be worthless sacks of shit like this guy. It is clear that he is not even TRYING to get better and get a job. He is wallowing in his circumstances by choice.

That's the issue, there needs to be action to have him get legitimate and constant mental help. Give him the ultimatum - seek help or lose your cheques. Just because others can lead productive lives due to trauma, doesn't mean OTHERS can. It's not really good to say a person doesn't deserve help because others can cope with the trauma. It's downright fucking evil to say that.

[QUOTE=amute;29949913]That's the issue, there needs to be action to have him get legitimate and constant mental help. Give him the ultimatum - seek help or lose your cheques. Just because others can lead productive lives due to trauma, doesn't mean OTHERS can. It's not really good to say a person doesn't deserve help because others can cope with the trauma. It's downright fucking evil to say that.[/QUOTE] Nah obviously facepunch knows whats up for everyone. I would trust 5 pages of "kill urself lol" over anything a doctor would have to say.

[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;29952006]Nah obviously facepunch knows whats up for everyone. I would trust 5 pages of "kill urself lol" over anything a doctor would have to say.[/QUOTE] Just a little correction, that's psychologist or psychiatrist there.

[QUOTE=Contag;29952156]Just a little correction, that's psychologist or psychiatrist there.[/QUOTE] they have doctorates sometimes...

[QUOTE=thisispain;29952198]they have doctorates sometimes...[/QUOTE] Psychiatrists yes, psychologists no. And in any case it's as legitimate as lawyers calling themselves doctors for completing the Juris Doctor. But it's not even hard science, it's the wishy washy world between hard science and social sciences, just waiting to be made redundant by neurobiology, the 'academic' vestige of a bygone era. For me to believe this man was disabled and beyond help, I would need a unanimous consensus of a few psychologists. Which will never happen, about anything.

[QUOTE=Contag;29952353]Psychiatrists yes, psychologists no. And in any case it's as legitimate as lawyers calling themselves doctors for completing the Juris Doctor. But it's not even hard science, it's the wishy washy world between hard science and social sciences, just waiting to be made redundant by neurobiology, the 'academic' vestige of a bygone era. For me to believe this man was disabled and beyond help, I would need a unanimous consensus of a few psychologists. Which will never happen, about anything.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that having PTSD that is bad enough for a doctor to tell you that it will eventually kill you is a pretty big problem.

[QUOTE=analrapist;29933232][img_thumb]http://www.johncaveosborne.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Screen-shot-2011-05-04-at-9.40.58-AM.png[/img_thumb] Oh jesus, look at her boobs... :barf:[/QUOTE] Well, my boner just got an eviction notice.

[QUOTE=Fort83;29952510]It is true some people can't lead productive lives due to trauma, different circumstances effect that. But fact of the matter is the SSI is for elderly (65+), blind, or disabilities. A little bit of an incident, that could easily be overcome with therapy, isn't accepted as a disability. Everyone experiences trauma in their life, from a breakup, to getting into a fight, to even small things like slipping on a banana peel. They just need to get over it/ or past it for you negative nancys. Like amute said he needs to seek mental help, constantly.[/QUOTE] My god. If anyone would actually read his bio you would realize that he has been and is to this very day still going to therapy.

[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;29952416]I'm pretty sure that having PTSD that is bad enough for a doctor to tell you that it will eventually kill you is a pretty big problem.[/QUOTE] That's a pretty a fucking stupid assertion. How could you possibly predict if PTSD would eventually kill someone? [editline]21st May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;29952626]My god. If anyone would actually read his bio you would realize that he has been and is to this very day still going to therapy.[/QUOTE] So his doctor is effectively useless, then?

[QUOTE=Contag;29952719]That's a pretty a fucking stupid assertion. How could you possibly predict if PTSD would eventually kill someone? [/QUOTE] [quote]The doctor explained to me that because I have so many nightmares and flashbacks so often, keeping my blood pressure at such a high level for extended periods of time, it has done damage to my heart. Anyway, the doctor told me right out, that one day I will have a nightmare or flashback that will cause my blood pressure to rise one time too many, and I will die of a heart attack. So it's not exactly nice having a death sentence over my head. But being AB, helps me relax and to lower my blood pressure swiftly after a nightmare or flashback. The sooner I can get the blood pressure back down after a flashback or nightmare, the better. So being AB is actually saving my life in my case.[/quote]

[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;29952779]The doctor explained to me that because I have so many nightmares and flashbacks so often, keeping my blood pressure at such a high level for extended periods of time, it has done damage to my heart. Anyway, the doctor told me right out, that one day I will have a nightmare or flashback that will cause my blood pressure to rise one time too many, and I will die of a heart attack. So it's not exactly nice having a death sentence over my head. But being AB, helps me relax and to lower my blood pressure swiftly after a nightmare or flashback. The sooner I can get the blood pressure back down after a flashback or nightmare, the better. So being AB is actually saving my life in my case.[/QUOTE] Being an Adult Baby is a life saving therapy? Really? That is quite probably the largest crock of shit I haver ever heard in my entire life. There are plenty of ways to relax that do not involve or require wearing diapers, sleeping in a crib, or having a weird old woman raise you as an infant. Fuck blood pressure medication, or any of the numerous experimentally verified to be effective psychological therapies, They new standard treatment for both high blood pressure and anxiety is to wear diapers, suck on a soother, and drink from a bottle.

[QUOTE=Novistador;29953940] Fuck blood pressure medication, or any of the numerous experimentally verified to be effective psychological therapies, [/QUOTE] Actually he's taking that too.

[QUOTE=The golden;29954007]How about you do some research on infantilism before you open your anus and shit on the thread? Your close-minded ignorance ins astonishing. People who practice it find it extremely therapeutic and relaxing.[/QUOTE] I know exactly what goes into being a man baby, People do it because they want to escape the stresses and responsibilities of being an adult, Which are the stresses and responsibilities that go along with being able to clearly perceive, and think about the world, and your requirements within it. Instead of doing the normal thing people do when they need to relax or ignore the world, reading a book, video games, taking a walk, tv, drinking, smoking, whatever. These man babies decide that non of those activities allow them to sufficiently detach from reality and realize that the only way for them to become truly ignorant of reality is if they were indeed mentally unable of comprehending it, like an infant. It's not necessarily sexual(though it can be) and people practice it to varing degrees, but no matter how you practice it the principle is the same, you want to escape reality so badly that you want to return to a time a perpetual incompetence and ignorance.

The government should issue a statement saying "We do not negotiate with terrorists"

[QUOTE=Novistador;29954213]I know exactly what goes into being a man baby, People do it because they want to escape the stresses and responsibilities of being an adult, Which are the stresses and responsibilities that go along with being able to clearly perceive, and think about the world, and your requirements within it. Instead of doing the normal thing people do when they need to relax or ignore the world, reading a book, video games, taking a walk, tv, drinking, smoking, whatever. These man babies decide that non of those activities allow them to sufficiently detach from reality and realize that the only way for them to become truly ignorant of reality is if they were indeed mentally unable of comprehending it, like an infant. It's not necessarily sexual(though it can be) and people practice it to varing degrees, but no matter how you practice it the principle is the same, you want to escape reality so badly that you want to return to a time a perpetual incompetence and ignorance.[/QUOTE] So basically you would be ok with this if he was spending his SSI money on something you would consider normal like video games, reading books, or drinking, but because what he's doing isn't normal it isn't ok.

[QUOTE=Fort83;29954159]if you read what people said in the comments you'd find that people aren't mad about his love for acting like an infant, were all fine with that, if it makes him happy, by all means do it.[/QUOTE] Plenty of things make people happy, and when certain things make you happy it can indicate certain thinking structures, or the valueing of certain ideas. For example Catholic Priests are often made happy by the thought of people not using condoms in africa, Sadists are made happy by inflicting pain on other people, Masochists are made happy by receiving pain, But the mere fact that they are made happy by these things does not make the ideas their happiness depends on true or right. The priests pleasure does not mean that he should tell people to stop using condoms, the Sadists pleasure does not mean other people are beneath him and deserve to be punished, the masochists pleasure does not mean he is worthless and should seek out punishment. Similarly the Man-Baby's pleasure does not mean that reverting to a state of infant ignorance and incompetence is a practical way to live ones life, nor does it (more to the root of the problem) mean that one should solve their problems with stress or responsibility by plugging ones ears (and ones mouth with a soother) closing ones eyes (in the comfort of your 6 foot long crib) and pretending that the stresses and responisitilites don't exist. [editline]20th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;29954295]So basically you would be ok with this if he was spending his SSI money on something you would consider normal like video games, reading books, or drinking, but because what he's doing isn't normal it isn't ok.[/QUOTE] No, I don't give a fuck about his SSI money (I'm against all entitlements but thats totally irrelivant in this discussion). I think being a Man-Baby is a pathetic reprehensible, Immoral thing to be and I don't think this pathetic Immoral weirdo deserves to be defended in any way.

[QUOTE=Novistador;29954319] No, I don't give a fuck about his SSI money (I'm against all entitlements but thats totally irrelivant in this discussion). I think being a Man-Baby is a pathetic reprehensible, Immoral thing to be and I don't think this pathetic Immoral weirdo deserves to be defended in any way.[/QUOTE] Lets say, hypothetically for the sake of the argument, that I am a man who suffers from a mental condition that makes it impossible for me to hold a job due to that condition being a significant liability. Now lets say I receive money for the disability and I use it to survive and use whatever is left to play video games. Would I be any different from this man?

[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;29954450]Lets say, hypothetically for the sake of the argument, that I am a man who suffers from a mental condition that makes it impossible for me to hold a job due to that condition being a significant liability. Now lets say I receive money for the disability and I use it to survive and use whatever is left to play video games. Would I be any different from this man?[/QUOTE] Yes because you have a legitimate mental condition that prevents you from working, as opposed to a stupid idea about how you can escape responsibility for the rest of your life. Regardless I don't care if this guy has a real mental condition aside from being a Man-Baby, What I'm saying is that he deserves no defense, or respect for his disgusting Man-Baby ways. I don't support any kind of welfare or disability payments so your barking up the wrong tree if you think I'm going to say hypothetical Mr. Video games deserves payment more than Man-baby.

[QUOTE=The golden;29941094]Because apple juice totally doesn't exist.[/QUOTE] I've never seen apple juice that was so yellowish...

The government should set up loudspeakers around his house that play the Spy's Heavy domination voice lines 24/7

[QUOTE=Novistador;29953940]Being an Adult Baby is a life saving therapy? Really? That is quite probably the largest crock of shit I haver ever heard in my entire life. There are plenty of ways to relax that do not involve or require wearing diapers, sleeping in a crib, or having a weird old woman raise you as an infant. Fuck blood pressure medication, or any of the numerous experimentally verified to be effective psychological therapies, They new standard treatment for both high blood pressure and anxiety is to wear diapers, suck on a soother, and drink from a bottle.[/QUOTE] You don't understand this thing called the human brain, do you? I'm beginning to think you lack one.

[QUOTE=amute;29955111]You don't understand this thing called the human brain, do you? I'm beginning to think you lack one.[/QUOTE] Your Ad Hominems sustain me, give me more.

[QUOTE=Novistador;29954588] I don't support any kind of welfare or disability payments so your barking up the wrong tree if you think I'm going to say hypothetical Mr. Video games deserves payment more than Man-baby.[/QUOTE] Yeah fuck poor and disabled people, they should be out working and not being poor!

[QUOTE=amute;29955194]Yeah fuck poor and disabled people, they should be out working and not being poor![/QUOTE] Of course!, your onto me! I really only think its acceptable to be a Man-Baby if your rich The poor on the other hand can go fuck themselves, you've seen through my clever rouse.

[QUOTE=Novistador;29940270]You know, Coming into this thread I expected the Bleeding Heart Internet Socialists to come in shouting "HE DESERVES THAT MONEY, THIS IS A LEGITIMATE DISABILITY, DISCRIMINATION BASED ON BASED ON SEXUAL ORIENTATION" but was pleasantly surprised, and had a small amount of my faith in humanity restored when most of them wrote him off as a weirdo, I would just like to say thank you, for making sure that, as always, my first prediction was correct.[/QUOTE] You're perhaps the most illiterate member of facepunch good job go read the thread [editline]20th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. N;29947010]Using taxpayer money to fund your little fetish is not right, and is not what the money is for.[/QUOTE] that's not what's happening my god take a class, all of you

[QUOTE=Novistador;29955265]Of course!, your onto me! I really only think its acceptable to be a Man-Baby if your rich The poor on the other hand can go fuck themselves, you've seen through my clever rouse.[/QUOTE] So you're against all welfare and disability aid? And you can seriously say that's moral? [editline]21st May 2011[/editline] You would outright fuck the poor and disabled, and you want to be sarcastic?